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Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 12:13 PM
OK.
I am REALLY DISAPPOINTED on the verge of being quite upset.
I had placed quite a few phone calls and spent some time on this group buy.
I needed 10 people for the plaid seat material.
I got 9 committed and i figured i would buy the last 2 yards to get it done.
I have asked to be notified of intent to back out or when payment is sent.
This was 20 days ago.
I have received 2 payments and 1 notification of drop out.
NO WORD FROM ANYONE ONE ELSE!!!
Why do you commit to something and not follow thru?
and if you cant or dont want to follow thru why dont you just say so?
ugh!!!
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 9 2009, 12:19 PM
Should I be DISAPPOINTED?
Yes ...
Posted by: Gint Dec 9 2009, 12:19 PM
That's a shame. And I don't blame you for being disappointed. But it is an inherent issue with group buys. Always has been.
Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 12:25 PM
That's a shame. And I don't blame you for being disappointed. But it is an inherent issue with group buys. Always has been.
AND it is a DAMN FINE (rare) PRODUCT.
I got 20% off the price
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 9 2009, 12:37 PM
If you have not purchased yet, we have plenty in stock so you will not have to suffer.
OK.
I am REALLY DISAPPOINTED on the verge of being quite upset.
I had placed quite a few phone calls and spent some time on this group buy.
I needed 10 people for the plaid seat material.
I got 9 committed and i figured i would buy the last 2 yards to get it done.
I have asked to be notified of intent to back out or when payment is sent.
This was 20 days ago.
I have received 2 payments and 1 notification of drop out.
NO WORD FROM ANYONE ONE ELSE!!!
Why do you commit to something and not follow thru?
and if you cant or dont want to follow thru why dont you just say so?
ugh!!!
Posted by: McMark Dec 9 2009, 12:44 PM
Um, I think you've pretty much undermined his considerable effort, George. I'm getting really sick of the 'Buy from us' posts. Somehow every other vendor on the site is able to refrain from shameless self promotion. Maybe you need to step up to the level of everyone else. You haven't even so much as ordered a banner ad.
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Posted by: turboman808 Dec 9 2009, 12:45 PM
20% off and hours upon hours of your time. Sounds like a deal to me. 
Posted by: Ferg Dec 9 2009, 12:45 PM
that sucks, sorry to hear.
Hey Dr. How about not making every post a sales pitch, just a thought.
edit: Mark beat me to it... 
Posted by: johnnie5 Dec 9 2009, 01:14 PM
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Um, yes it does... +2
Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 9 2009, 02:09 PM
I'm stepping up to admit I'm guilty as hell 
I'm one of the failures. I don't write checks. I don't even know where the check book is. Pay Pal is my friend. I have several other lame excuses all of which will not justify my actions. I'm a complete failure at this group buy.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 9 2009, 02:44 PM
seriously my intent was good maybe I misread but thought steve wanted some fabric for his car and everyone punted so he could not get it at a good price. I was offering to make it up to him by getting him some of the material so he would not have to suffer from the lack of participation.
Banner ad in January.
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 9 2009, 03:37 PM
Man you're slow, I learned that group buys are a PITA several years ago. BTDT
If you need 10 peeps you have to get 20 guys to say "I'm in" because when it comes time to shit or get off the pot you know half will bail.
Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 04:47 PM
Man you're slow, I learned that group buys are a PITA several years ago. BTDT
If you need 10 peeps you have to get 20 guys to say "I'm in" because when it comes time to shit or get off the pot you know half will bail.
I am slow?
NO!
I am a newbie.
Lesson learned though.
Posted by: SLITS Dec 9 2009, 05:13 PM
Man you're slow, I learned that group buys are a PITA several years ago. BTDT
If you need 10 peeps you have to get 20 guys to say "I'm in" because when it comes time to shit or get off the pot you know half will bail.
I am slow?
NO!
I am a newbie.
Lesson learned though.
Hopefully it was not a real painful lesson and I hope you had no money out other than your time and phone calls.
Posted by: bandjoey Dec 9 2009, 05:22 PM
I ogled over the material but didn't order because I can't spend the money now. Let's try again in the spring but. Get deposits. I also havnt written a check in years and paypal is my buddy. It'll get at least 25% more responses than a 'send money to' thread. 
Posted by: SGB Dec 9 2009, 05:31 PM
I like paypal b/c the wife keeps the checkbook...
They may not be weasels- I know Rick isn't 
but there will always be 30% failure. I wish it had worked better for ya, and probably will come together eventually. I hoped it worked so that then you might do one for the blue/black/white/gray pattern I have...
Posted by: elmonte Dec 9 2009, 05:41 PM
Um, I think you've pretty much undermined his considerable effort, George. I'm getting really sick of the 'Buy from us' posts. Somehow every other vendor on the site is able to refrain from shameless self promotion. Maybe you need to step up to the level of everyone else. You haven't even so much as ordered a banner ad.
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Posted by: r_towle Dec 9 2009, 06:04 PM
If this is your first ever group buy I can understand your reaction.
This always happens in group buys....nature of the beast.
We are not alone on the 914 universe...it happens in lots of places.
If you decide to be the manager of a group buy, be prepared for this.
A few phone calls to get a price and find that material gave you a great education.
The fact that you need at least double the people to buy in is pretty normal.
Dont loose faith, just learn and move on like the rest of us that no longer do group buys...
Rich
Posted by: Todd Enlund Dec 9 2009, 07:18 PM
Man you're slow, I learned that group buys are a PITA several years ago. BTDT
If you need 10 peeps you have to get 20 guys to say "I'm in" because when it comes time to shit or get off the pot you know half will bail.
Exactly. I organized a group buy last year, and I didn't pull the trigger until I had over 200% "firm" commitment. I ended up with a 40% failure rate.
Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 07:23 PM
Man you're slow, I learned that group buys are a PITA several years ago. BTDT
If you need 10 peeps you have to get 20 guys to say "I'm in" because when it comes time to shit or get off the pot you know half will bail.
Exactly. I organized a group buy last year, and I didn't pull the trigger until I had over 200% "firm" commitment. I ended up with a 40% failure rate.
like i said now i know.
i really thought this would be a big deal.
i mean the tartan is beautiful and it was a great deal.
i was excited when i found it.
info on this stuff was hard to come by so when i found the actual company that made it OMG!!!
never again
Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 9 2009, 07:23 PM
I like paypal b/c the wife keeps the checkbook...
They may not be weasels- I know Rick isn't
but there will always be 30% failure. I wish it had worked better for ya, and probably will come together eventually. I hoped it worked so that then you might do one for the blue/black/white/gray pattern I have...Thanks buddy
but I really blew it here. I don't do checks well.. I have to ask the wife for a check. She just paid a bunch of tuition for two kids and a masters program. when she does that it get the look. you guys who are married know what I mean by the look. So, just said more than I wanted to here. Now you all know I'm a wuss. Yes dear...I'll go back to my office and make more money for you..Are you still collecting money? or are you done with the whole idea? Cuss I can still get the check. Pay pal is better, just collect add the fees.
Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 07:28 PM
I like paypal b/c the wife keeps the checkbook...
They may not be weasels- I know Rick isn't
but there will always be 30% failure. I wish it had worked better for ya, and probably will come together eventually. I hoped it worked so that then you might do one for the blue/black/white/gray pattern I have...Thanks buddy
but I really blew it here. I don't do checks well.. I have to ask the wife for a check. She just paid a bunch of tuition for two kids and a masters program. when she does that it get the look. you guys who are married know what I mean by the look. So, just said more than I wanted to here. Now you all know I'm a wuss. Yes dear...I'll go back to my office and make more money for you..Are you still collecting money? or are you done with the whole idea? Cuss I can still get the check. Pay pal is better, just collect add the fees.
no need
there is not enuff people to get a discount.
Posted by: ME733 Dec 9 2009, 09:54 PM
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...I did NOT PLACE AN ORDER in the group buy ....and this is because, the manufacturer will cut and provide the correct dimensions to ensure the length and width will work/fit the 914 seats.......and when I went on the hunt for proper material, reproduction, of o.e.m about a year ago ...I discovered AUTOMOBLE ATLANTA had already put in a major order and the mfg. was wating for more orders, and or timing as their looms have to be specially set up for the runs.... this group buy deal was going to save the group 20%?...with all the uncertaines, extra shipping and NOT being able to have the mfg. responsible ultimately if their was a problem just made no sense to me. I guess another factor is that we support a business ..A A who was the Ineatiator of the remake of 914 seat upolstry colors in the first place. saving a miserable 20%, and be in leftout field if there,s a problem is just stupid . I suggest we try and support those specialty business which supply and support our cars that are now 38 years old +/_. a small amount of loyalty to the businesses that we need seems appropiate.....
Posted by: type11969 Dec 9 2009, 10:13 PM
What is up with the popcorn eating smileys and all the ellipses?
Oh and the my shit don't stink attitude?
If you don't have something nice to say . . .
Sorry that group buy didn't work out, that sucks!
-Chris
Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 10:33 PM
:A A who was the Ineatiator of the remake of 914 seat upolstry colors in the first place.
INCORRECT
Posted by: MoveQik Dec 9 2009, 10:34 PM
...I did NOT PLACE AN ORDER in the group buy ....and this is because, the manufacturer will cut and provide the correct dimensions to ensure the length and width will work/fit the 914 seats.......and when I went on the hunt for proper material, reproduction, of o.e.m about a year ago ...I discovered AUTOMOBLE ATLANTA had already put in a major order and the mfg. was wating for more orders, and or timing as their looms have to be specially set up for the runs.... this group buy deal was going to save the group 20%?...with all the uncertaines, extra shipping and NOT being able to have the mfg. responsible ultimately if their was a problem just made no sense to me. I guess another factor is that we support a business ..A A who was the Ineatiator of the remake of 914 seat upolstry colors in the first place. saving a miserable 20%, and be in leftout field if there,s a problem is just stupid . I suggest we try and support those specialty business which supply and support our cars that are now 38 years old +/_. a small amount of loyalty to the businesses that we need seems appropiate..... If you didn't place an order and had nothing to do with this, then why show up and slam someone that was trying to help everyone? Also, this may come as a surprise to you but a lot of us would rather go without before buying from AA.
Posted by: SLITS Dec 9 2009, 10:36 PM
Damn .... this thread went south fast.
And Wills is correct!
Posted by: ME733 Dec 9 2009, 10:48 PM
:A A who was the Ineatiator of the remake of 914 seat upolstry colors in the first place.
INCORRECT
If the manufacturer can be believed ....I AM CORRECT ... and you are not.
Posted by: Scott Schroeder Dec 9 2009, 11:30 PM
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Posted by: steveherman Dec 9 2009, 11:45 PM
:A A who was the Ineatiator of the remake of 914 seat upolstry colors in the first place.
INCORRECT
If the manufacturer can be believed ....I AM CORRECT ... and you are not.
you are incorrect.
maybe you should call them back, ask for Doug. have him tell you the whole story.
it was actually initiated by the owner of another 914 shop just down the road from the manufacturer.
this owner spent the better part of a day at the manufacturers place working out the details.
But it is ok that you are wrong cuz it makes no difference and has nothing to do with what i started this thread for.
but it did show what an a$$hole you are.
all good.
Posted by: swood Dec 9 2009, 11:52 PM
where's the Douchebag smiley 
Posted by: MoveQik Dec 10 2009, 12:15 AM
And Wills is correct!
You had me at "hello"
Posted by: Travis Neff Dec 10 2009, 12:28 AM
Handsome & Hostile strikes again.... 
Posted by: Gint Dec 10 2009, 08:03 AM
Posted by: Ferg Dec 10 2009, 09:22 AM
Just to sum up...
No group buy
AA Status unchanged
Wills is still Handsome
Steve the OP sounds like a cool dude, gonna need him at a event soon 
Gint does not like Mushroom head people 
Carry on
Posted by: steveherman Dec 10 2009, 09:40 AM
Just to sum up...
Steve the OP sounds like a cool dude, gonna need him at a event soon
and you are correct
Posted by: charliew Dec 10 2009, 11:48 AM
I'm sorry that there was such a waste of time and expenses. If I had wanted that material and knew it was going to be a savings and that the material would be the best available, writing a check would have been a pleasure because shopping from a computer is the easiest cheapest way I can get hard to find 914 parts. I like pp but some people don't and I can understand why as they have never really helped in my disputes, all the seller has to do is withdraw his funds after he gets them and the games over. I wasted 240.00 on a guy in canada on two 915 shifters and linkage parts. There is a chance customs screwed the deal up but still I never got the parts. Even when you get a refund pp gets some of that. So you still loose some money. Annnnnyway I buy from George because he tries to sell a good product but he really doesn't put the product in the box or try it out for fit before he sends it out and you really can't say any of the really big places use all of their products. I am definately glad he is in business as long as I'm in the 914 hobby. Even if he dissapoints me, the next time I need something, I will still see what he's got and how much it is and try to research it before I order it. I'm betting he is constantly trying to improve. Hell I've bought colt pistols only to find out the workmanship is better on a ruger vaquero so it's up to us to keep the vendors straight. Just like Judicial Watch tries to keep all politicians honest. You think venders are hard to keep straight? try keeping a lawyer straight.
Sorry for the rant.
Charlie
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 10 2009, 12:53 PM
"Spending 20-40% more to be in leftout field if there's a problem is even morer stupider..."
BTDT and so have many others here who know "exactly" what I'm talking about.
Back on target - Yes. You should be disappointed. You put together an honest buy and got hosed for your hard work.
Posted by: charliew Dec 10 2009, 12:58 PM
If it's not too late maybe you just need to advertise a little further out in the web. I know this is the most popular site. A thought just occured, I wonder if that is the same pattern used in the camaros?
Posted by: McMark Dec 10 2009, 01:08 PM
Posted by: 6freak Dec 10 2009, 01:37 PM
Is that even a word Mr Shea ..lmao
This is why i dont do group buys..sometime you have to back out ....but for FUCKSAKE CALL THE POOR MAN AND TELL HIM DONT JUST LEAVE HIM HANGING
....JMO
Posted by: SLITS Dec 10 2009, 04:28 PM
Handsome & Hostile strikes again....
I never knew Wills to be hostile.
Posted by: Gint Dec 10 2009, 04:32 PM
Handsome & Hostile strikes again....
I never knew Wills to be hostile.
So you think he's handsome then?
Posted by: Gint Dec 10 2009, 04:34 PM
Andy get props for that.
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 10 2009, 04:37 PM
Andy get props for that.
I thought that head look familiar!
Posted by: SLITS Dec 10 2009, 04:42 PM
Gint should look in the mirror.
Posted by: Gint Dec 10 2009, 04:46 PM
Shootin yer mouth off again Schlits?
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Thanks for trying. Sorry, I couldn't get into the buy..money tight for now.
Posted by: SLITS Dec 10 2009, 05:23 PM
Shootin yer mouth off again Schlits?
And I'm damn good at it too!
And that's Shitz to you. The war is on ... two beers at 5 paces!!
Posted by: Gint Dec 10 2009, 06:02 PM
I accept your challenge! 
Posted by: cholland_ Dec 10 2009, 06:50 PM
So... to get this straight, is this group buy in fact canceled?
I sent you a bank draft last week, it should be arriving anytime now (probably got slowed down because of Christmas-time traffic). Because it's a bank draft, the ~$300 has already been withdrawn from my account.
Guess I'll have to have a chat with the bank to see how I get this back...
Posted by: steveherman Dec 11 2009, 03:52 PM
So... to get this straight, is this group buy in fact canceled?
I sent you a bank draft last week, it should be arriving anytime now (probably got slowed down because of Christmas-time traffic). Because it's a bank draft, the ~$300 has already been withdrawn from my account.
Guess I'll have to have a chat with the bank to see how I get this back...
sorry.
but i hope you realize this is not my fault.
and thus should not be a reflection of my credibility or honesty.
Posted by: charliew Dec 11 2009, 05:44 PM
You could say you will return the draft buy sig. mail I guess so the float interest doesn't make the bank rich.
Orrr throw a little party and invite cholland.
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