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Posted by: BatAc Aug 15 2004, 10:29 PM

Michael (who ran Bridgestone’s harder tyre): his victory made him the first man in history to win seven straight races in the same Grand Prix season.
Few would have bet against Michael Schumacher taking his 12th victory of the season at the Hungarian Grand Prix. He duly delivered – leading the race from the P1 grid spot earned by yesterday’s searing qualifying performance, all the way to the chequered flag.
In the drivers’ stakes, Schumacher has almost four race wins worth of points in hand over Barrichello and Button has drawn right away from Trulli, who is now only a point ahead of Renault team mate Alonso.

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I believe the only race Schuey lost this year was the one someone rammed him from behind 'n' knocked out his car. He's one of the best right there with Jimmy (Clark , of course) It's a shame americans are so ignorant of this 'n' show there colors in NASCAR.

Posted by: jgiroux67 Aug 15 2004, 10:51 PM

Wow, you have realy good writing skills. What you just wrote sounds as though it came out of a Formula 1 magazine.

Schumacher is amazing! In my opinion he is the greatest racer of all time, bare in mind that I wasnt aware of F1 when Fangio or even Senna were around. I would even go as far to say that Schuy is the greatest athlete of all time. He is unstoppable when he gets a chance to finish a race. You are correct the only race that he didnt win this season is when Montoya hit him and took him out of the race. If it werent for that incident I believe that Michael would of had the perfect season.

You are also right, most Americans are ignorant when it comes to racing. They think the best drivers are in Nascar( or as I like to call it "Redneck racing) Now there are some good series in the US such as the ALMS but it barely gets any ratings because of some Nascar race. I have no clue why Nacar is so popular. Its circle track for crying out loud!

Posted by: red914 Aug 15 2004, 11:12 PM

only left turns, correct? round 'n round 'n round....

Posted by: scotty Aug 15 2004, 11:16 PM

Posted by: Lou W Aug 15 2004, 11:17 PM

Go Fast!! Turn Left!! Go Fast!! Turn Left!! etc. Except for today, Walkins Glen. I still think Nascar is better, at least I can pronounce the drivers names

Posted by: jgiroux67 Aug 15 2004, 11:25 PM

Go Fast!! Turn Left!! Go Fast!! Turn Left!! etc. Except for today, Walkins Glen. I still think Nascar is better, at least I can pronounce the drivers names

Posted by: Lou W Aug 15 2004, 11:30 PM

I was just having fun, I actually enjoy both. Sometimes, I look at how high tech things have gotten, and it makes me think about how Nascar can still make for good racing with basically a 1964 Ford Galexie with a Carburator. Been to a CART race last year at Fontana and I actually thought the Craftsmen Truck race made for more exciting racing.

Posted by: Hawktel Aug 16 2004, 12:31 AM

Nascar and F1 are to different animals. Shuey is awesome, a dominating force in his field. I can't think of another person who is dominating contests as he is unless its perhaps Lance Armstrong.

But, I dunno if I would count nascar out. I think that is you took some of the best from Nascar, And gave them a couple of years in the F1's, they would do okay, and I think that if you took the best of F1 and dropped them into Nascar and gave them time they would even out as the best.

I saw something where Jeff Gordon did a rally race for some odd reason. I think he did pretty good, and even the Rally guys said he was damned quick.

Posted by: BatAc Aug 16 2004, 01:34 AM

I attended the Montreal Grand Prix this year and would highly recomend it next for those that would want to attend. The crowd is vastly different as well as more diversified to that of NASCAR. You'll range from the snobish rich, the unpretentious well to do right onto the shade tree mechanic as well as the biker. Not to mention the women as well as cars one lets thier eyes feast on. It's quite interesting talking to an asian woman speaking french, while later on talking to a distinguished looking man who slids up after your talk to slip into his brand new ferrari, as well as your typical american lookin' biker dude who only speaks french. The whole atmosphere doing the weekend is a celebration of speed doing the day and death at night (most World Champions end tragically) with Mardi Gras atmosphere. Let's not forget the race itself where the cars (the SOUND) run at 18,000 to 19,000 RPM as oppose to that of a NASCAR at what 9,500 RPM. My seats this year where at the end of the home stretch at which point they'd gear down into an S turn pop into a litle dogleg (where cars came out of the pits, if the cars where three wide it would force someone off the track {it's not like you slow up coming into traffic}) then shoot up a hill out of sight as you'd hear 'em gear up as they shoot down a long strech. They're large monitors on the track to see what's going on elsewhere. You could sit down by the hairpin where they're flying down a long strech at 195mph as they gear down (have I mentioned the SOUND as they run down the gears {unlike the old days when they would heel 'n' toe faster then a tap dancer}[remember clutches are on the steering wheel nowadays]) to 15mph to hit the hairpin as well as a great place to pass. Of course if your cup of tea is to only make lefts and be stuck in one gear (flat out) I'm sure you'd make an imaginative lover as well.

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Aug 16 2004, 01:54 AM

Umm, I tivo'd the race and have NOT watched it yet....

thanks for the SPOIL job!


Yes, I figured Shuey would win, but maybe NEXT time you could add something to the 2nd line of the subject line, like....
Results of the F1 race
or
DO NOT read if you haven't seen the F1 race.

Posted by: BatAc Aug 16 2004, 02:04 AM

SORRY

Posted by: seanery Aug 16 2004, 08:46 AM

oh, come on scott! It was midnight when you read this 20 hours after the race.

Posted by: ! Aug 16 2004, 09:16 AM

NASCAR=Pro Wrestling....

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Aug 16 2004, 11:50 AM

NASCAR=Pro Wrestling....

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Aug 16 2004, 11:54 AM

oh, come on scott! It was midnight when you read this 20 hours after the race.

Posted by: dinomium Aug 16 2004, 12:21 PM

I love all kinds of racing! from my slot cars to WRC to DTM, F1,champs, IRL, World of Outlaws, Sprit, Migets, Figure and yes EVEN Nascar... Go faster than the other guy! What I dont like is the Catch up Yellow flag! that is as bad as the "puck swoosh" on FOX for hockey.
The other thing that bugs me is the pointless "who is better" heated argument. As a debate it is really kinda pointless. Anybody driving at the very top of a given series has the faculties to compete at the world level. So much more goes into making a modern champion than sheer driving talent, and that is a good thing I think...
So unless you are talking about Mario Andretti AJ Foyt or Dan Gurney (just to name a few...) you are really just saying I like this guy more than that guy...
Just like in music, ITS ALL RACING, only the haircuts are differnt

whew! That turned into a rant!

Posted by: Lou W Aug 16 2004, 01:33 PM

It's all good stuff, Heck, I love watching those rally's they have in Europe with the Navigator and the Driver yelling at each other when they crash. And what about Dakor (sp?) Rally, that would be a blast!!! But, you can't compare NASCAR to Wrestling. Jeff Gordon and Jaun Montoya traded cars last year, (Not in a race), and he did a great job. You got to be good to jump in a car that you are totally unfamilier with and drive it the way he did. I think as time goes on, you may see more drivers cross over to other types of racing, ie Dale Jr., Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon, etc.

Posted by: dinomium Aug 16 2004, 01:39 PM

I remember see that Lou! THe crew forgot to equip Jeff's helmet with foils to keep his head on! He still would have qualified for the previous years' race at INDY! If the shots from his helmet cam were an accurate view of what he was seeing, then that is more impressive!!

Posted by: Lou W Aug 16 2004, 01:56 PM

Yea, I watched it a couple of times, the part I found interesting was when they sat and talked about the differences in the two types of race cars, it really showed their abilities to adjust to that particulars cars shortcomings (NASCARS) Brakes, Handling, etc. and how Hightech the F1 car was, onboard computers that would overide the driver, the speed and handling. You gotta Love it all!
PS. Support your local Tracks

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 16 2004, 07:52 PM

Schumacher is an asswipe (a fast one though )
And F1 is has been boring as hell for at least 2 years...
You watch the qualifying and you know the race results
I don't even bother watching it anymore

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: tracks914 Aug 16 2004, 08:52 PM

with you Jeroen. Schumy is great but not as great a Ferarri. With a contract that won't let his teammate pass him, he is an ass wipe! The last race of the year last year where he had to get to 8th to win, he showed his true colours, punting off Sato in a non passing zone. A move of a desparate man. I hate him.
Too bad Senna died.

Posted by: 75boxster Aug 16 2004, 11:28 PM

You have got to be fricking kidding me. Do you really want me to list all of the BS
that Senna has pulled and at least on one occasion his actions should of landed his butt in jail. No driver has a skeleton free closet and Senna's was as full as anyones.