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Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 16 2012, 10:16 AM

Just a little something that's being worked on.


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Posted by: jim_hoyland Mar 16 2012, 10:20 AM

Manual throttle control....

Posted by: vsg914 Mar 16 2012, 10:26 AM

914-6 throttle rod.

Posted by: jmill Mar 16 2012, 01:48 PM

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 16 2012, 11:26 AM) *

914-6 throttle rod.



I need this!

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 16 2012, 02:02 PM

Looks like a 911R front hood prop.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2012, 09:34 AM

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 16 2012, 09:26 AM) *

914-6 throttle rod.

Wow that didn't take long.


Posted by: Socalandy Mar 17 2012, 10:02 AM

This was missing on my car, When are they availible??

Posted by: Gint Mar 17 2012, 10:10 AM


I want one. I have my original somewhere, but I can't find it. I also need the support bracket. Or at least a picture of a real part so I can fab one up. Mine is missing.


Posted by: vsg914 Mar 17 2012, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 17 2012, 10:34 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 16 2012, 09:26 AM) *

914-6 throttle rod.

Wow that didn't take long.

Wow. You said guess, and that is what is was. I knew it was not from a four, and that was the only thing I could think of that a six had that a four didn't

Posted by: jim_hoyland Mar 17 2012, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:34 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 16 2012, 09:26 AM) *

914-6 throttle rod.

Wow that didn't take long.


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Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:34 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 16 2012, 09:26 AM) *

914-6 throttle rod.

Wow that didn't take long.


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Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 24 2012, 12:40 PM

Attached ImageA little more progress. These should be ready in 4-5 weeks if all goes well.


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Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 4 2012, 11:59 AM

I Have 3 complete sets and some individual parts. Pricing will follow shortly.
-Mark


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Posted by: Niklas Jun 4 2012, 12:21 PM

I want one set to.

Niklas

Posted by: zymurgist Jun 4 2012, 12:55 PM

cheer.gif cheer.gif cheer.gif

At this rate, there will soon be more 914/6's on the road than the factory ever built. driving.gif driving-girl.gif

Posted by: jeeperjohn56 Jun 4 2012, 03:05 PM

This might be a dumb question, but what did this hand throttle do on a six? Was this the crew control switch? John confused24.gif

Posted by: JmuRiz Jun 4 2012, 03:26 PM

Poor-man's cruise control biggrin.gif

It's so you can keep the idle up until the car warms up. I wish I had one on my 914/4 when it had carbs...I may get one for the 6 conversion if I go carbs....actually I'd like one for my 356 too, idle is low when cold and high when warm.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jun 4 2012, 03:46 PM

Wonderful addition to your line!

I would love to get one for my conversion as it is helpful when getting the beast to run when cold. Either that or an automatic throttle blipping device to keep it running until it warms up!!!!!!

BTW, they do work pretty well as a poor man's cruise control.

Posted by: jmill Jun 4 2012, 04:09 PM

All over this one. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: smj Jun 4 2012, 04:19 PM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Jun 4 2012, 01:26 PM) *

Poor-man's cruise control biggrin.gif

Never would have occurred to me. So of course now I'll have to give it a try... smile.gif

Those look awesome Mark. Glad mine works, but good to know there's a source if something happens - or if I need to replace the bracket or something.

Posted by: Norskpole Jun 4 2012, 04:20 PM

Want one of these too! popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: RON S. Jun 4 2012, 04:33 PM


I want one to, I already have the throttle lever mounted.

As usual, another great reproduction from Mikey.


Ron biggrin.gif


Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 4 2012, 04:36 PM

I'll take one too, since I already knew what it was.... smile.gif

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Jun 4 2012, 04:37 PM

So would a 4 benefit from one of these?

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Jun 4 2012, 04:37 PM

So would a 4 benefit from one of these?

Posted by: zymurgist Jun 4 2012, 04:43 PM

Built-up 2.4's with MFI really benefit from these. Based on my sample size of 1 (and the lack of an installed MFI thermostat). biggrin.gif

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 4 2012, 07:03 PM

Jon, works best for carbs, during warm up.

Posted by: sbsix Jun 5 2012, 10:49 AM

Mark,

Any chance that you have a supply of the 914-6 black throttle knobs? I keep painting a red heater knob black, but it hasn't worked well. The red knobs are plentiful but I can't find a black one.

Gary

Posted by: worn Jun 5 2012, 11:20 AM

Since you are working on something new, would you consider making the "silent bloc" that is NLA and holds or doesn't hold in my case, the hard top down in back. All of the used ones are rotting out.

Posted by: moparrob Jun 5 2012, 10:26 PM

Oh man! What do you get the man that has everything? ONE OF THESE!

This will be perfect for my conversion. I just hope it comes with instructions on how/ where to hook it up...

Please let me know when available.

Posted by: JmuRiz Jun 6 2012, 10:40 AM

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Oh man! What do you get the man that has everything? ONE OF THESE!

This will be perfect for my conversion. I just hope it comes with instructions on how/ where to hook it up...

Please let me know when available.

I was thinking the same thing...for my conversion it'll be great...just need some instructions to know what the heck I'm hooking up to what.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 03:48 PM

How to install the Handgas lever
for all Years and Types

What you need:
1x Handgaslever set
Tools
10mm Hexnut
13mm Hexnut



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Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 03:50 PM

Mark the position of the shift rod
This will be the easy way to meet the right position in the reassembling phase



Loosen the screw and pull out the shift rod
Now remove the 3 screws from the shifter and pull out the shifter
Remove the black knob from the lever arm



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Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 03:52 PM

Slide the lever arm through the front slot on the shifter bracket


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Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 03:55 PM

Install the bracket for the push rod


Be sure that’s the bracket is in place like the picture shows


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Posted by: mepstein Jun 6 2012, 03:57 PM

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So would a 4 benefit from one of these?


The front of the shifter base on a tailshifter trans has a slot so I'm guessing Porsche used the same shifter on the 4 and 6. Would be cool to mount the extra lever for the oil slick/tire spike door or maybe the afterburners.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 03:57 PM

After removing the front cap of the push rod place the shifter and the lever arm
back in place.
Be sure that the bracket in is the right position the bore of the shifter bracket must meet the bore of the bracket and the small pin in the lever arm bracket must fit the small bore in the shifter bracket.
At this point you must also thread the push rod front end in the bore
of the installed bracket.



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Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 03:59 PM

Reassembling your shifter with the shift rod
Push the end cap over the front end of the push rod.


Be sure that you have tightened all screws!



Next to come - Installation at pedal assembly


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Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2012, 04:08 PM

I'd like to take credit for these, but they are from a German source and they will be retailed at -
Complete set without the black knob: $250

Group buy price will be $199+ shipping ($6 or so)


Also available:
pedal cluster enhancement $20
middle tunnel bracket $50
push rod withaout endcap $50

It looks like all 3 may be sold- tenitively


Posted by: moparrob Jun 6 2012, 10:47 PM

Hmmm, how much installed. happy11.gif


Posted by: jmill Jun 7 2012, 03:56 PM

I'm in but need the whole mess including the handle. Does your kit include everything for it to work besides the handle?

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 7 2012, 05:27 PM

It's my understanding that if you have a Rennshifter it will have to be modified so the lever will be able to swing ?

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 9 2012, 09:06 AM

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Jun 7 2012, 04:27 PM) *

It's my understanding that if you have a Rennshifter it will have to be modified so the lever will be able to swing ?

Not having a Rennshifter I can't confirm this but it may be a possibility


The 3 are in I have 2 going out today and one left!

Posted by: Norskpole Jul 9 2012, 09:48 AM

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The 3 are in I have 2 going out today and one left!



I'll take the 1 that is left! Send me payment info...
-John

Posted by: jmill Jul 9 2012, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(jmill @ Jun 7 2012, 04:56 PM) *

I'm in but need the whole mess including the handle. Does your kit include everything for it to work besides the handle?



Any answer to the question I asked? confused24.gif

This would be for my 2.4 conversion with webers.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 11 2012, 02:33 AM

Sorry,
Yes there is no reason you couldn't use these in that application. It simply "preloads" the throttle cable.

Posted by: BarberDave Jul 11 2012, 06:07 AM

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Gosh Mikey, Now have to find some other way to turn on the " FLUX CAPACITOR "

THANKS FOR EXPOSING MY SECRET !

On a more serious note, Think of how luckey we are to have Mickey around here

and his extencive line of excellent products. Please take a bow Mickey !!!!

Dave slap.gif

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 11 2012, 07:01 AM

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Jun 4 2012, 10:55 AM) *

cheer.gif cheer.gif cheer.gif

At this rate, there will soon be more 914/6's on the road than the factory ever built. driving.gif driving-girl.gif


Pretty certain that there are already double the number of original 6's in conversions if not more...

Posted by: DEC Jul 11 2012, 07:31 AM

I think this only one detail.
The most conversions are not complete
The most have the original -4 igniton swtich and other missing details.

The most converisions I have seen had the following missing -6er parts:

1. Hand throttle
2. OE headers
3 .6er steering rack/ignition switch
4. 6er water bottle
and other -6 parts.

In Europe it is harder to identify a conversion because in a 72er 6er
they used #3 and #4 from the -4

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 20 2012, 10:13 AM

More of these are done and I was going to bring in some more. I kknow there was at least one that is needed, anyone else.
-mark

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 23 2012, 09:31 AM

Get them while the're hot. Next batch is ready.


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Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 23 2012, 10:33 AM

Anyone doing the installation that has a Rennshifter ? If so, I'd like to get the pattern off the base after the slot is cut to accomodate the lever arm. smile.gif

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 23 2012, 10:39 AM

I'm putting one on my 4 as I have carbs and this will be handy.
-Mark

Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 23 2012, 11:05 AM

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I'm putting one on my 4 as I have carbs and this will be handy.
-Mark


The base' are about the same size ? Makes sense. I don't have a spare base anymore. A pattern would probably work. Also curious as to what kind of machining the Rennshifter base is going to require--home hacking or professional machining ?

Posted by: RON S. Aug 23 2012, 04:55 PM

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Anyone doing the installation that has a Rennshifter ? If so, I'd like to get the pattern off the base after the slot is cut to accomodate the lever arm. smile.gif



Jim,

You Don't really need any pattern. I just removed the base from the shifter, and the hand throttle lever from it's base.
The lever base mounts underneath the shifter base. Mine is an original /6 lever, and so it has a locating hole that secures it with the front left base bolt, but it also has a dimple in it that keeps the lever from pivoting around the base bolt. Therefore I had to countersink a hole under the shifter base to lock in the dimple. Then with the position set I marked out the slot location for the lever with a Sharpie, and then just drilled a bunch of holes through the base. Lastly I used a Dremel to clean it all up, leaving a nice looking slot with the full travel of the lever available.
You'll need to radius the top portion of the front of the slot for the travel because the base plate for the Rennshifter is about 3/8'' thick, compared to the original base made from stamped sheetmetal. I also has to use a washer for a shim on the forward right bolt hole under the base to keep it all square when I was done.
I did the whole job in a couple of hours, start to finish.

Ron



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Posted by: DEC Aug 24 2012, 01:18 AM

The lever from Mark has the locating hole also

Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 24 2012, 08:01 AM

Thanks for the info, great description. smile.gif


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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Aug 23 2012, 09:33 AM) *

Anyone doing the installation that has a Rennshifter ? If so, I'd like to get the pattern off the base after the slot is cut to accomodate the lever arm. smile.gif



Jim,

You Don't really need any pattern. I just removed the base from the shifter, and the hand throttle lever from it's base.
The lever base mounts underneath the shifter base. Mine is an original /6 lever, and so it has a locating hole that secures it with the front left base bolt, but it also has a dimple in it that keeps the lever from pivoting around the base bolt. Therefore I had to countersink a hole under the shifter base to lock in the dimple. Then with the position set I marked out the slot location for the lever with a Sharpie, and then just drilled a bunch of holes through the base. Lastly I used a Dremel to clean it all up, leaving a nice looking slot with the full travel of the lever available.
You'll need to radius the top portion of the front of the slot for the travel because the base plate for the Rennshifter is about 3/8'' thick, compared to the original base made from stamped sheetmetal. I also has to use a washer for a shim on the forward right bolt hole under the base to keep it all square when I was done.
I did the whole job in a couple of hours, start to finish.

Ron


Posted by: DEC Aug 27 2012, 02:20 PM

It works also with the 915 shifter but you must add a slot in the middel
of the shifter like the pics show

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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 27 2012, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Aug 23 2012, 08:31 AM) *

Get them while the're hot. Next batch is ready.

Ok, i'm *still* confused on the pricing and what exactly i would get for my money.
You list a price for a set but in the same post you list prices for add-on pieces.

What is is? A full set or pieces or both or ...?
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Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 27 2012, 09:39 PM

As the hand lever is the most dificult to fabricate it's part of the assmembly, but if you wanted other parts to replace any bent or broken ones they were listed individually.


Group buy price will be $199+ shipping ($6 or so)


Also available:
pedal cluster enhancement $20
middle tunnel bracket $50
push rod withaout endcap $50

Posted by: bcheney Sep 9 2012, 09:22 AM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Jun 6 2012, 05:59 PM) *

Reassembling your shifter with the shift rod
Push the end cap over the front end of the push rod.


Be sure that you have tightened all screws!



Next to come - Installation at pedal assembly


Mikey, Can you post the next set of instructions?

Posted by: DEC Sep 10 2012, 01:37 AM

Here the whole installation guide.

Attached File  How_to_install_the_Handgas_lever.pdf ( 2.5mb ) Number of downloads: 507

Posted by: bcheney Sep 10 2012, 08:07 AM

Thanks

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 18 2012, 11:48 PM

I have 2 more in. Who still wanted one. I know there was at least one of you out there, I just can't find my correspondence to figure out who it was?

Posted by: Peashooter Dec 19 2012, 12:14 PM

PM'd you

Posted by: Gint Dec 19 2012, 08:10 PM

I want one, but I need to wait 6 weeks or so. You're going to run more aren't you Mark?

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 20 2012, 12:37 AM

I've been bringing these in from Germany. With the exchage rate on the Euro going up these may go up some. This a a batch I committed to back in Oct., so I got a good rate still. I'm not marking it up as my cost didn't go up, but I suspect they may be a little more this next round.

Posted by: gofor914 Jan 17 2013, 02:17 PM

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I've been bringing these in from Germany. With the exchage rate on the Euro going up these may go up some. This a a batch I committed to back in Oct., so I got a good rate still. I'm not marking it up as my cost didn't go up, but I suspect they may be a little more this next round.

I will buy a complet set hand throttle. I'm living in Europe. How can you help me? smile.gif

Posted by: DEC Jan 17 2013, 03:42 PM

PM sent

Posted by: jm993rs Jan 31 2013, 08:45 AM

Thank you guys !!

I need make the same operation in my car because I think I need for mount the 6 with MFI !!

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Posted by: DEC Jan 31 2013, 11:01 AM

I have one set left for the Europeans.
If anyone will have it let me know.

I must check the interest to make a further run of these parts.


Posted by: eric9144 Jan 31 2013, 12:42 PM

PM sent

Posted by: jm993rs Apr 17 2013, 05:15 AM

Thank you guys !!

Is good for me because I need for my conversion to engine 911 2.4 S !!!!

Posted by: DEC Jul 18 2013, 06:40 AM

it works also for the MFI setup

Posted by: DEC Jul 18 2013, 06:45 AM

I have finished the last (all silver serie) run of 10 sets of the
914-6 hand throttle

Please contact Mark/Mikey914 if you need one

Europeans please PM me direct

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 18 2013, 08:18 AM

I'm finally adding one to my carbed 4, looking forward to this run.

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