Posted by: last337 Jan 19 2013, 11:25 AM
I want to spend a few hundred bucks on my 2.0 to get some extra HP. I am still running all stock ignition with stock cams and dual 40s. I like the price of the Kerry hunter headers over the tangerine headers. Should I invest in headers or make ignition upgrades first?
Are the Kerry hunters still available?
Posted by: jcd914 Jan 19 2013, 11:52 AM
Ignition upgrade does not get you more horsepower unless yours is not properly igniting your air/fuel charge currently. Ignition upgrade gets you reliability, less maintenance and might be necessary for a tweaked engine but your mostly stock and won't benefit.
I don't have direct experience with Kerry hunter headers but they seem to have a good reputation. Chris' headers are the best you can get and will perform and last accordingly.
Jim
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Jan 19 2013, 11:58 AM
If you upgrade your headers, wouldn't you lose having heat?
Posted by: last337 Jan 19 2013, 12:24 PM
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:58 AM)
If you upgrade your headers, wouldn't you lose having heat?
I have no heat as it is and don't really intend to fix it. It is only cold a few months of the year here in New Orleans and just keeping the windows up warms the car up pretty quick.
Is chris the guy at tangerine racing? I just can't justify that expense. Any other recommendations for less expensive alternatives?
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 19 2013, 12:39 PM
Tangerine can do a heater box with their headers.
Posted by: JamesM Jan 19 2013, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(last337 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:24 AM)
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:58 AM)
If you upgrade your headers, wouldn't you lose having heat?
I have no heat as it is and don't really intend to fix it. It is only cold a few months of the year here in New Orleans and just keeping the windows up warms the car up pretty quick.
Is chris the guy at tangerine racing? I just can't justify that expense. Any other recommendations for less expensive alternatives?
Euro race is another option. they use stub pipes which makes things 100x easier.
Posted by: falconfp2001 Jan 19 2013, 01:49 PM
QUOTE(JamesM @ Jan 19 2013, 11:15 AM)
QUOTE(last337 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:24 AM)
QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:58 AM)
If you upgrade your headers, wouldn't you lose having heat?
I have no heat as it is and don't really intend to fix it. It is only cold a few months of the year here in New Orleans and just keeping the windows up warms the car up pretty quick.
Is chris the guy at tangerine racing? I just can't justify that expense. Any other recommendations for less expensive alternatives?
Euro race is another option. they use stub pipes which makes things 100x easier.
How about a link?
Posted by: hydroliftin Jan 19 2013, 02:33 PM
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Try High Performance House in Redwood City, CA. I think Rich may have the European Race Header. Last I heard Kerry Hunter was no longer making these but the web site is still up so you may be able to contact him. I have a Kerry Hunter that I got on eBay and I am guite happy with it. I sprayed it all over with bar b que high temp paint and it had not rusted in 5 years. Grass roots motorsports claimed a gain of 11 HP on the dyno with a stock 1.7. Some don't like the supertrapp muffler but with 8 disks in it, it is not too loud for street and flows well enough by my standards. For the money a used Kerry Hunter is a great deal.
Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 19 2013, 03:23 PM
QUOTE(hydroliftin @ Jan 19 2013, 03:33 PM)
Grass roots motorsports claimed a gain of 11 HP on the dyno with a stock 1.7.
I doubt it.
Posted by: struckn Jan 19 2013, 03:23 PM
I noticed a major improvement going from stock cam to one specific for carbs. Smoothed out the mid range transition while excellerating and just more everything power wise. It's a big job but worth it IMO, plus while inside you can take care of bearings and seals amoung other things.
Posted by: last337 Jan 19 2013, 05:34 PM
I didn't find any at high performance warehouse but did see some here but no price http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-4/
And these
http://www.paragon-products.com/product-p/p914.4-158hmm.htm
How loud is the supertrapp on the Kerry header?
Posted by: edwin Jan 19 2013, 05:53 PM
Pretty sure the euro race headers aren't being made currently. Triad do a set very similar
Posted by: hydroliftin Jan 19 2013, 07:49 PM
QUOTE(last337 @ Jan 19 2013, 03:34 PM)
I didn't find any at high performance warehouse but did see some here but no price http://europeanracingheaders.com/products/914-4/
And these
http://www.paragon-products.com/product-p/p914.4-158hmm.htm
How loud is the supertrapp on the Kerry header?
The supertrapp is louder than the Flowmaster type can you find on a euro race header. You have to call Rich at highperformancehouse.com. He is there M-F and sometimes on Sat. As you found out Paragon still shows the euro race. I'd call them to make sure before ordering.
Posted by: Wegeng_Haus Jan 28 2013, 07:34 AM
QUOTE(last337 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:25 AM)
I want to spend a few hundred bucks on my 2.0 to get some extra HP. I am still running all stock ignition with stock cams and dual 40s. I like the price of the Kerry hunter headers over the tangerine headers. Should I invest in headers or make ignition upgrades first?
Are the Kerry hunters still available?
I bought my second KH header last year. The install is not difficult and the header performs great. I installed an 18" Supertrapp, which is rumbly, but not too loud. I am a peewee racer, so I can't go all in for the high dollar stuff, yet. The last KH header went through two auto-x seasons with no noticeable degredation, before I sold the car. I also call Kerry once or twice a year with questions and he is very cool. Dave
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