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Posted by: Mr.C Jan 11 2005, 06:57 PM
I decided after years of sitting in the garage to get the 911 my dad gave me going again. Well to make a long story short the engine seems to be LOCKED UP, FROZE however you wanna say it, the damn thing won't turn over! I'm so pissed!! 
DAMN DAMN DAMN and to think I was planning on taking it to the WCC. I can't even see straight I'm so mad. ok ok deep breaths. Nah I still don't feel any better. Well it looks like I'm gonna be pulling the thing down. I am gonna head on down to the book store and pick up whats his faces book from pelican or maybe just get drunk. 
Posted by: morgan Jan 11 2005, 07:03 PM
Dude slow down put rust off oil in all the cylinders and let them soak for some days
then try to hand turn the motor.
JM 
Posted by: SLITS Jan 11 2005, 07:03 PM
Pull the plugs, fill cylinders with diesel fuel (the ones that will hold the liquid), let set for 3 days, then try to turn it.
If you could pull the engine and bolt a bar across the flywheel, you might break it free.
Posted by: Mr.C Jan 11 2005, 07:09 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not worried so much about the cost it's just the shock of it all right now.
Posted by: Mr.C Jan 11 2005, 07:10 PM
I guess you could say that's what I get for putting the 914 on hold. 
Posted by: jwalters Jan 11 2005, 07:13 PM
Yea, I agree, it is prolly just a carbon lock--that happens allot! Take your drain plug out and drain all the fluids from the engine--take out all the sparkplugs and leave them out--and I agree, fill each cylinder one at a time with a good solvent-something that will break up carbon. Purpose of doing one cylinder at a time --when you fill the cylinder with solvent, if it is ok--the solvent will run out and drip out the drain plug.( this may be slow or fast-depending on if your rings are stuck in the grooves and not sealing well) Do this until you find the cylinder (s) that are plugged up--then let the solvent sit for a couple of days--when you can see in the plug opening that it has reduced--fill it again--and gingerly turn the crank a litle at a time in the direction of normal rotation --you may have to bump the breaker bar handle firmly with your hand--don't just bear down on the handle with all your might--BUMP it--this goes along way to freeing things up well--good luck!! 
Posted by: joea9146 Jan 11 2005, 07:29 PM
Could also be a Frozen clutch if the Car has been sitting for a While...
Posted by: jwalters Jan 11 2005, 07:31 PM
| QUOTE (joea9146 @ Jan 11 2005, 05:29 PM) |
| Could also be a Frozen clutch if the Car has been sitting for a While... |
Yea, but by simply putting it into neutral and cranking it would rule that out........
Posted by: jwalters Jan 11 2005, 07:32 PM
| QUOTE (Cabasa @ Jan 11 2005, 05:09 PM) |
| Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not worried so much about the cost it's just the shock of it all right now. |
Seeing as you are not worried about the cost---you could spread some of your wealth my way, and assist in the resurrection of a 1972 teener!!!!!!
Posted by: nebreitling Jan 11 2005, 07:40 PM
| QUOTE (Cabasa @ Jan 11 2005, 04:57 PM) |
| or maybe just get drunk. |
always a good response!!!!
Posted by: spare time toys Jan 11 2005, 07:59 PM
Show us the car.
Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 11 2005, 08:27 PM
Marvel Mystery oil!!
Fill the entire case with it as well as the cylinders.
A mix of Marvel and Dexron/ Mercon auto tranny fuid has saved many on this end!
The stuff is a mystery!
I once saved a VW engine that had been locked for 10 years with the stuff.. Took about 3 weeks of "Pickling" to straighten it out....
As soon as she fires up, take it out and give it hell to free it up :-)
Posted by: newdeal2 Jan 11 2005, 09:08 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jan 11 2005, 06:27 PM) |
| Marvel Mystery oil!! Fill the entire case with it as well as the cylinders. A mix of Marvel and Dexron/ Mercon auto tranny fuid has saved many on this end! The stuff is a mystery! I once saved a VW engine that had been locked for 10 years with the stuff.. Took about 3 weeks of "Pickling" to straighten it out.... As soon as she fires up, take it out and give it hell to free it up :-) |
Great stuff...I agree ...use it a lot on my dual stromberghed GT6!
Posted by: skline Jan 11 2005, 09:24 PM
I use marvel mystery oil in my air tools. Works great.
Posted by: Mr.C Jan 11 2005, 10:49 PM
The car is a Sportomatic and I tried turning it over at the crank. It must of just happened cause I was able to turn it over about six months ago. I've calmed down, home brewed Portuguese wine helps. Thanks Jake I'll try the mystery shit. Maybe I'll make the WCC after all. If not maybe I'll take the teener. Imagine that a teener at a 914 event. Damn
Oh here is a pic of the POS
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Posted by: skline Jan 11 2005, 10:54 PM
That looks nice. If you give up, I will be glad to take it off your hands. I could have it running in a week or so I am sure of it.
Posted by: Mr.C Jan 11 2005, 10:56 PM
How about we just race to see who's car hits the road first. 
That took me 3 months of body work to get it that way, and that was hours every day too. I just never finished it up to drive. I think I got burnt out, but just recently was motivated again till this happened. I'm still motivated, but man this sux.
Posted by: skline Jan 11 2005, 11:08 PM
I feel your pain buddy, if you really want to race, you better have it done this week cause mine is on the road this weekend.
Posted by: Mr.C Jan 11 2005, 11:33 PM
I found the problem.
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Posted by: Joe Ricard Jan 12 2005, 07:04 AM
| QUOTE (Cabasa @ Jan 11 2005, 09:33 PM) |
| I found the problem. |
Well there you have it Chop sticks
You know what sucks is nearly blowing the morning coffee out my nose reading this crazy shit.
Posted by: DJsRepS Jan 13 2005, 06:13 AM
Marvel mystery oil is what I flushed out mine with after my stupidity of letting rain fill my intake boot, throdle bodie, intake plenium, and one cylinder. All from the less than 1/4" gap between the trunk and motor hood with the oil bath off. And my intake boot opening is vertical not horiz. I could turn the crank by hand so it was not froozen but I did not use the starter until I did alot of flushing. I later dropped a valve from a cracked spring a month later and fixed that and saw my water cyl it had a stain but no pits and I put on over 1500mi since and it has not burned or leaked enough oil to even need any added. At 80k on the cylinders I could see no ridge and factory hone markings on the cyl walls. I guess someone could have rebuilt this before I got it but I doupt it. It sat 9yr with the PO and over 5 with me. Big lack of $ on my part.
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