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Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 02:44 PM

Hi everyone...I am new to the 914 world although not new to Porsche's. I have owned 3 944's and actually loved every one of them. I came across a craigslist ad for a v8 914 and well.....here it goes.. wish me luck ...any and all input is appreciated.

This engine is just set in place as mock up only...thats actually a 1966 283 out of a ChevyII
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I dont know why this radiator is where its at...going to get a race aluminum in the front
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lots of work to do here..
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will have lots of parts to sale off of this project
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definitely going to need some more space for 12 inch wide tires..so probably won't look like this when i'm done
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Posted by: andys Apr 15 2014, 02:56 PM

Your first challenge will be to find a suitable transaxle capable of withstanding twin turbo power.

Andys

Posted by: 2mAn Apr 15 2014, 03:06 PM

I honestly think you should start by getting it going with just the SBC and then plan the twin turbo if it isnt scary enough.

I love 944s and would love to put a LS motor in that instead!

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:14 PM

I have my photos of the car up on photobucket but cant seem to get them here...i am new to posting on forums any help would be great....and yes transaxle will be an issue i agree...but then again i am looking to do a retro look and not really high hp...400-500 hp is the absolute most i want ... well....

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:15 PM

i agree totally

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:20 PM

http://s328.photobucket.com/user/tonybeam/slideshow/

Posted by: 2mAn Apr 15 2014, 03:23 PM

when you have the image up on photobucket there should be a list on the right that has says "link to share" click on the IMG link and paste (CTRL-V) on reply and voila pictures!

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:25 PM

Thanks!

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:27 PM

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:30 PM

Thanks alot 2mAn! so this is much easier now..

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 15 2014, 03:34 PM

Posted by: 2mAn Apr 15 2014, 03:38 PM

no problem

honestly, sell the turbo manifolds use that money either towards the renegade radiator setup (I think its around 750-1000). the next thing would be to properly mount the transmission, that chain link looks

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 03:42 PM

I know you say ditch the turbos...but i cant get the thought out of my head...lol ... yes the chain has got to go...this is how i got it...needless to say alot of work to be done. I am going for era correct age on everything as if someone in 1974 did a v8 conversion.

Posted by: dlee6204 Apr 15 2014, 03:57 PM

I saw that car on Craigslist. I almost made a move when it first popped up. Should be a good project.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 04:12 PM

I have looked at v8 conversions before and no how much they can be...for the price I had too...but it does need a lot of work

Posted by: bulitt Apr 15 2014, 04:54 PM

Saw it also 1200$

And V8 conversions started in the early 70's

Posted by: FourBlades Apr 15 2014, 05:13 PM

Looks like a cool project!

Post a lot of pictures as you go.

Getting it running would make it more fun while you plan your next step.

Too many of these turn into 3 years on jack stands before turning a wheel.

Ask me how I know...

John

Posted by: beam944 Apr 15 2014, 05:34 PM

Next week starts the build... Have to finish a little Jackson supercharged Honda first...lol

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 15 2014, 11:05 PM

400 to 500 horse power??!! That transmission won't last unless you really baby it. But how much fun would that be.

Posted by: messix Apr 15 2014, 11:54 PM

tony is running 400+ in his with a 901 for the past 5+ years and he doesn't "baby it" but he doesn't punish it either.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Apr 16 2014, 07:44 AM

The 283 is a good platform. You will have around 250hp (mine did) without the turbos. Your 400hp mark is easy to reach. The motor looks like it sits too far back in the chassis. Most V8 conversions sit 1.5" back. This can be measured from the rear tranny mounts. You end up with around 1/2" clearance at the valve cover/firewall. Moving the engine more forward will help with chassis balance. Then you can flip flop the exhaust manifolds to get the turbos away from the rear window.

Looks like a fun build. I love engine swaps...

Posted by: beam944 Apr 16 2014, 02:00 PM

The 283 would have to be rebuilt, and I would love to build it but for time constraints I have a 350 already built ready to go... Yes the engine is to far back and needs to be moved forward...the guy I purchased it from had it in just for mock up...and from the angle of the axles it is about 3 inches too far back...it is also way high

Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 16 2014, 05:01 PM

It'll be fun, but you will get an education in the weak spots in the drive train. One piece at a time. You'll break something, replace it with a stronger part, and then the next weakest thing will break.

The times it runs will be scary fun, though!

--DD

Posted by: beam944 Apr 16 2014, 07:02 PM

I can't wait...fortunately I have a small background in chassis building...well I have the help of ppl that do it for a living, so there will definitely be parts made and technology incorporated into this build from NASCAR... I am foaming at the mouth to get started!

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 16 2014, 07:34 PM

My suggestion if you want to try and keep the 901 trani.. Go with a SUPER big turbo/twin turbos.


This way you can keep the boost very low, and have the boost start to build pretty late (for a v8) like say 3k. This will keep the torque down and will help you not destroy your 901, not to mention keep the turbo's/oil nice and cool. You will have boost lag, but the feeling of it spooling and building boost will just be so much more fun.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 16 2014, 07:45 PM

I agree!! kind of like power band on a 2 stroke..

Posted by: beam944 Apr 16 2014, 08:00 PM

stainless goodies...

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 18 2014, 08:48 AM

Better off going with a large rear mount turbo. Put the heat away from the engine bay.

Posted by: RJMII Apr 18 2014, 10:49 PM

Maybe a gt 28r on each bank, or a td05 16g? That would keep your exhaust to intake pressure ratio pretty close to 1:1 and the power band up a little higher after a good spool up, and you wouldn't need a special turbo cam.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 19 2014, 10:34 AM

A pair of gt28's on 4.6L? First off I dont think he should go ball bearing turbo. The whole goal here isnt to make crazy power at low rpm, its to have a turbocharged sbc 914 in some package that wont destroy everything the first time he gets on boost...

I think a larger journal bearing single turbo would make good power, give him some spool time, and be much cheaper.

Heres an interesting article.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1105_592hp_46l_2v_motor_for_2298/viewall.html

Posted by: bulitt Apr 19 2014, 01:00 PM

Put the 350 into it and get it running. This is a 2300lb car and with 350hp you will have the power to weight ratio of a dodge Viper. Then if you still have a hankering for turbos have at it. But, this is the land of Nascar. People put speed equipment out in the recycling bins.

Posted by: 3d914 Apr 19 2014, 05:14 PM

Nah, 350hp is child's play. Go for the twin-turbo V8, 500hp, 400ft. lbs for 200mph +. (Of course you can't do that easily with the 901 tranny)

That'll wake up some of the big boys!

Posted by: beam944 Apr 19 2014, 10:01 PM

I am taking all of the suggestions in....I also like the designing aspect of this as well..here are some theoretical numbers I came up with let me know what you think

Posted by: drive-ability Apr 19 2014, 10:49 PM

That car's going to be a handfull. Buckle up and hang on ! Did I see a radiator or intercooler in the back ? I'm sure it would work fine, when ya turbo the space gets taken up quick and the temps go up as well. Turbo engines are so fantastic when their setup right, but they scare me in a fun way.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 20 2014, 01:00 AM

Maybe at 7lbs of boost with little tuning.... That calculator seriously underestimates what a turbo can do... My 1.8L Audi engine makes that much power with a turbo much smaller than were talking... Seriously...


You put a nice big turbo on it and you'll make whatever the bottom end can hold... Its all about moving the power curve where you want it... Thats where sizing will come in. 350lbs tq at 2krpm is really plenty on the street, Where you actually will want that turbo is to start spooling ~3500 and then build the engine to allow you to rev to 7-8k (You've got nascar stuff... right?) so that you can rev it out and make some power (if you want...)...

Traction will be the real issue when your getting to that much power... Much above 400hp its starts getting to be a real problem keeping the car straight. I've ridden in a 550hp v8 914 with maaaasive hoosier slicks, We stayed sideways till 100....

Posted by: bulitt Apr 20 2014, 07:09 AM

Don't mess around with the SBC. Put a twin turbo Viper V10 in there. 1200hp The extra weight will help with your traction issues.

http://www.undergroundracing.com/

Posted by: beam944 Apr 20 2014, 08:07 AM

Does anyone know if there has been traction control incorporated into a 914 conversion?

Posted by: Mike Bellis Apr 20 2014, 09:11 AM

It was an option for me when I did my conversion. I opted not to incorporate since it was designed around a 3500lb car. When it came down to it. I only grafted in the steering column and dash cluster.

Bosch makes a universal version you can add and program. It only costs several thousand dollars. Many race teams use the system.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 20 2014, 09:51 AM

Of course I will have to drive it without it and see if it would be worthy of the cost to do...reason for such low numbers on the engine design as well...definitely more horses stored in that little 283 but I also want reliability... not saying we have used TC in racing...cough , cough....but there is some laying around that could be tried out...I'm a ways from that point but hope to be starting on this project end of week.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 20 2014, 11:17 AM

You probably have much better access to traction control systems than the rest of us. Without using something designed for a specific engine/ecu its really difficult to design a system...

Traction control would be nice....

Posted by: beam944 Apr 20 2014, 03:19 PM

Finished the little supercharged civic...

Dyno time...any guesser's?

Dyno tomorrow and then i can focus on the 914!!

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 21 2014, 09:44 AM

Well a nicely built d16z6 makes ~ 145crank , If your dyno'ing to the wheels lets say 170-180whp. And thats pretty generous. What supercharger and boost?

Posted by: veekry9 Apr 21 2014, 10:00 AM

beam944
Hi there.
You're gonna need a bigger tire..
Drysump-pan,alloy heads if you can,and with a mild build that 350 can be a cheep
way to frightening performance.
More power=more strength=more$$=more fun.
I even like the color.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 21 2014, 11:06 AM

This is the d16a VTEC... With Jackson supercharger with 6lbs of boost SPEC stage 3 clutch and aluminum flywheel

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 21 2014, 03:16 PM

Yes, the D16 vtech engine is either the D16Z6 or D16Y8. Then again the stock engine in that car is a D16A6, it could just have a head swap to use the Z6/Y8 head.


On only 6lbs of boost I'll give you 160whp

Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 21 2014, 04:31 PM

VTEC, Andrew. VTECH is a crappy phone.

Oh, and putting a Z6 or Y8 (and there are a couple others that work) head on a non-VTEC bottom end is called a "Mini-Me" swap. Originally it was "Mini-Me LS-VTEC", but got shortened.

--DD

Posted by: beam944 Apr 21 2014, 05:40 PM

Ran late today...but i did get it on the dyno strapped down and ready to see what it has in the morning... i'm going to guess 185/170... this dyno is very cruel

Posted by: beam944 Apr 21 2014, 05:51 PM

Also thinking ahead a little bit... thinking about making my own 8 into one headers for the 914 build and incorporate one turbo like someone suggested ... i think it will achieve the sound i'm looking for and compliment the high revs of the 283.... thoughts?

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 21 2014, 06:47 PM

Bad habit

Posted by: Mike Bellis Apr 21 2014, 08:41 PM

I like the 8 into 1 turbo idea. The short stroke on the 283 can spin guick if built right.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 21 2014, 10:24 PM

Something to consider for the exhaust..

Search Chris Julian, his old 914 v8 had a wicked exhaust setup.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=10888&view=findpost&p=444416

You could do a 8-2-1. If you did a twin scroll turbo you could separate it properly at the turbo mount.. But you really dont need the extra spool up time... (It would let you go even bigger in the turbo and run lower boost levels... aka keep the heat even lower)

Posted by: beam944 Apr 22 2014, 10:41 AM

sounds weak....http://youtu.be/xhyxFAA5N84

Posted by: beam944 Apr 22 2014, 11:39 AM

http://youtu.be/KO0Ls9I6E5U

First pull no tune 160hp ... weakkkkkkkkkk

Posted by: beam944 Apr 22 2014, 11:40 AM

Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 22 2014, 04:31 PM

160 ain't bad from a 1.6 liter that originally made 108 HP...

Might get more without the CEL on...

--DD

Posted by: beam944 Apr 22 2014, 08:23 PM

Converting to the obd1 was not my doing...hence the MIL light... also...VTEC did not come in as shown by the graph being so smooth...alot of parts to be thrown at it and on zero tune...i agree 160 aint shabby the engine is actually the allusive D16A VTEC...yes they did make one ... very rare and not worth the headache for 118 hp stock ... I imagine getting the VTEC operational will free up some ponies..maybe one or two..lol

Posted by: beam944 Apr 22 2014, 08:24 PM

BUT IM READY TO START THE 914 BUILD!!!!!! So may have to put the little red huffer to the side for a bit

Posted by: beam944 Apr 23 2014, 05:39 AM

Andyrew...winner! winner ! Chicken Dinner! ...lol

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 25 2014, 10:38 AM

Congrats! Great number for a non vtec run. You wont get vtech to kick in with a CEL.

I chased CEL's for days when I swapped the head on my CRX Si before I sold it. Twas a great car, but the chassis was so weak and worn that it just didnt meet my standards for a daily... I felt like I would get pretty hurt in an accident.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 25 2014, 10:52 AM

This car is a Frankenstein... 1996 Japan D16A VTEC ...no mini me here ... p91 vtec ecu .... 91 civic harness... have some gremlins to chase, but i am curious what vtec will add to the hp numbers...

Posted by: beam944 Apr 25 2014, 04:26 PM

Just picked up someones fresh build that stopped before they even cranked...and I watched it being built... $800

It will be for sale after build, i'm only using it to shake the car down and for fitment

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 26 2014, 05:19 PM

Ditch the 901. It will disappoint and blow. However, if you choose not to heed my warning, I am here for ya

Enjoying the progress.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 28 2014, 10:53 AM

Seats just arrived! Thanks again 914itis!

Posted by: beam944 Apr 29 2014, 01:19 PM

What transmission would you recommend?

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 29 2014, 01:29 PM

At a minimum a 930 which will take money to make work. A G50 would be better, and take money to make work. A Pantera ZF would be a decent one as it is built to bolt to a V8. The best would be a Medeola as it would be purpose built and would not compromise the power you have. No use having a big gun if you are too weak to shoot it.

http://mendeolamotors.com/trans-proto/

Spend as much if not more on the transmission or the engine performance is worthless.

Posted by: messix Apr 29 2014, 09:27 PM

research audi transaxles in kit cars. it's been done and they supposedly can take some power.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 29 2014, 10:06 PM

Probably gonna need to flip that turbo and intake around. That inlet is about where the passenger seat back normally sits.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 29 2014, 10:09 PM

While the Audi may take the power, the gearing may suck. It will always be either money or trade-offs.

Posted by: r_towle Apr 29 2014, 10:13 PM

What is the gearing of an Audi tranny?

Seems there is a lot of support for the Subaru transmission with 2wd conversions and loads of turbo power being pushed through those trannies, with success.

Posted by: messix Apr 29 2014, 10:26 PM

torque is the killer

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 30 2014, 09:07 AM

There are 6 speeds and there are diesel trani's available over seas that are much better. Overall its a better trani solution than any of the 915/930 boxes.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 30 2014, 12:23 PM

The Porsche boxes are all geared high. I wonder if a diesel box would work. How hard to get?

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 30 2014, 12:35 PM

Well the diesel cars are getting older and being parted more and more now, so it should be easier than 5 years ago..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-VW-2-5l-TDI-150PS-Getriebe-MkB-CUS-ca-170-000-Km-Transmission-/271455690748?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item3f34051ffc

Posted by: andys Apr 30 2014, 01:24 PM

That Ebay transaxle is a 012 5 speed, which is common here in the US.

I have an Audi (TDI) 01E 6 speed in my LS1 conversion. Yes, first gear is short, but it works well for me since my driveway entering the garage is rather steep. The rest of the raios are quite good, with 2400RPM @ 70MPH in 6th. Strength wise I can't say, but the GT40 replica guys in OZ claim they run 500HP SBF without issue.

Andys

Posted by: Mike Bellis Apr 30 2014, 01:30 PM

Ebay UK has better deals on gearboxes for TDI Audi's and VW's

I have an 012, 5 speed setup with 108mm flanges (930 CV's) that I will sell cheap. It's setup to use a standard Boxster shifter and cables. I'm running it on my 350hp Audi motor but I'm switching back to my 6 speed in a couple weeks.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 30 2014, 06:15 PM

Are there gearing options for the Audi boxes? I would be willing to regear one for some one if they sent it to me with parts. No charge, looking for experience. Already peeped the guts a long time ago and they are easy like the 901.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 30 2014, 06:35 PM

Why yes... There are many different gear ratio's...





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Posted by: Andyrew Apr 30 2014, 06:38 PM

Note: "Audi Gear Ratios" spreadsheet has 2 tabs.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Apr 30 2014, 07:21 PM

The DUK code has good V8 ratios and can be had for less than $200 on ebay UK.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vw-audi-passat-a4-a6-duk-gearbox-5-speed-2000-1-9-AJM-ATJ-pd-tdi-115-BHP-/251515290016?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a8f7ac1a0

Posted by: speed metal army Apr 30 2014, 09:18 PM

I emailed "Subaru Gears" about using a subie Trans. Seems 100% doable, but is pricey.
I think Doc Evil should come up with the Audi fix and sell the whole shebang as a kit.
Id buy one yesterday.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 30 2014, 09:49 PM

Wow...you guys been busy...lol...jut getting in from my shop.been a long week and have a lot to finish before this weekend. Andyrew...I have decided I will make my own intake...carbon fiber...exhaust will be an 8-1 straight to a single t4 flange and so on...the motor in the pic above is my test one to put in the 914 while the 283 is being built...I hear you guys talking about Audi and Subaru tranny's...are they strong enough for 5-600hp 4-500tq?
I have also gone down the rabbit hole of a flat plane 180 degree crank...as I am a compcams dealer I thought it appropriate to ask myvrep about having a can made...well let's just say if you don't need 20 of them made at once it's like giraffe ass....way up there. $2500...Bryant crankshafts can do the crank...about $4500...so flat plane dream has taken off without me. But I did purchase a nice tig today and should have it by next week!

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 30 2014, 10:49 PM

Carbon fiber intake, as in intake manifold? Ya... Dont do that. If you want to go crazy with fabrication go aluminum. If your panning on intake from the turbo to the intake then sure whatever floats your boat. I prefer steel/aluminum/rubber.


Subaru/Audi tranis can handle some serious HP, but torque is the killer which is why you need to do what you can to keep displacement small and keep the HP way up top.

If you can build that 283 to rev to 9k do it. There are plenty of 6-700WHP drag subaru's and audi's. I know specifically of a very fast 650whp Audi that runs a $200 transmission. I believe he's on his 5th transmission (4th gear is weak) but he does ~ 30 drag passes a year for the past 12 years...

Posted by: messix Apr 30 2014, 11:13 PM

look for a L99 4.3 v8 from a min '90 caprice, looks just like a lt1.

grab the crank and rods [rods are longer than 350 engine and will put the small end in the right spot for the 350 pistons] out of that and use a 4" bore block with standard 350 pistons. the cranks are nodular iron and the rods are powdered metal, plenty strong to make 500/500 and light enough with a good balance to spin 7k rpm easy.

you now have a 302 ci sbc

short stroke large bore to use good flowing heads and will still look period correct.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 30 2014, 11:14 PM

Thanks for the advice...the plenum of the intake is what I'm speaking of...not the actual manifold...thinking of a stealth ram or something similar and making my own plenum that actually turns a bit since the headers will be coming up and over where the distributor should be...I will be going coil packs so distributor will not be an issue. I plan a lot before I start a project...plan,dream...and what falls into place and comes to fruition maybe different than the inception of an idea but that's what keeps me going and drives me to be different. I love the sound of Italian supercars and the style and design that goes into them...it is like art and for me, I just go in the moment when it happens and if can group all my ideas into a build ... Awesome. I haven't been this excited about a project in quite some time, if you knew my friends they would tell you...He is a dreamer that lives in his dreams everyday...positive is his M.O. ...and he has a horseshoe up his ass.

Posted by: beam944 Apr 30 2014, 11:18 PM

Nice... But I already have my foundation...283 punched out to a 301 ...is essentially a dz 302... Guys have been spinning them to 9000 for a long time and hold up well...but get this ... Do you know you can build a 283 with a 2.6 " stroke... Jessel will be in the top end ...all forged internals.. Rods ...well carillo of course..lol

Posted by: messix Apr 30 2014, 11:34 PM

no it's not..... you would be using the small journal crank not quite as strong even though it a steel crank.

but you're down in nascar land where unusual parts and pieces are common so must have a 283 cut for a large crank. I'm not sure what the does to the block webs in strength.

2.6 crank ? wow that's gonna take a fancy cam spec to get it to breath on a 4" bore and available heads. even under boost.

just thinking here.... very short stroke, gonna need a long rod, don't want a long piston skirt to heavy, might go with a small rod journal to lighten the rods up, excellent rod to stroke ratio could get away with very short piston skirt.

8.5k to 9.5k rpm if the valve train can get light enough, nascar sbc canted vavle engines don't have much in common with street engines any more, spendy valves and springs...


you must not be married or have kids!

Posted by: beam944 Apr 30 2014, 11:49 PM

I am married and have three kids

Posted by: beam944 May 1 2014, 12:03 AM

Posted by: beam944 May 1 2014, 12:07 AM

My wife will kill me for posting these...

Posted by: beam944 May 1 2014, 12:09 AM

Goodnight all...got to get up in 4 and a half hours...lol

Posted by: beam944 May 1 2014, 08:39 AM

From Crower..

Posted by: beam944 May 1 2014, 08:53 AM

messix....you are spot on

Posted by: messix May 1 2014, 07:31 PM

9k-10krpm out of a 283 is what the drag guys were getting..... I wouldn't bet on expecting one to last long for any repeated and extended time.

I'm on board with the small displacement and stroke engine for a v8 conversion, I've been working on getting parts and pieces to do a ls1 block with 4.8 crank.

I have a pretty good chunk of my paycheck going to my ex for child support so using stock parts and finding deals is just the waiting game. the ls1 blocks are over valued so I might end up going with a 5.3 alloy block. those are hard to find but much less $$.

the allure of a all aluminum ls motor that could make 400-500 hp N/A pretty easily is just too hard to resist.

Posted by: beam944 May 1 2014, 08:41 PM

I completely understand... And yes guys were dragging them...but also short track guys up north were building them and running power glides and only first gear! Most ppl don't know a power glide can handle 14000

Posted by: Evil914 May 4 2014, 01:45 AM

Seems like I saw a brand new either 4.3 or 5.3 block on ebay a month back for something like 2 or 3 hundred,seemed like a steal to me.I don't know much about that series of motors though.I've got a dz302 with Comp cams roller solid lifter and roller rockers that hits 7500 rpm easy.It has destroyed two 901 trannys but that was from pilot error (read like trying to stay next to Viper in 0 to 100 sprint). Big sticky tires don't help matters either,the 901 doesn't accept any abuse.Thinking about a Cayman S six speed.

Posted by: beam944 May 4 2014, 10:25 AM

I am definitely looking at all options... I will look into that as well..ty

Posted by: andys May 4 2014, 09:07 PM

I had a similar plan until a complete low mileage LS1 came across my path (Z28 pull-out). LS1 with a 4.8L crank/rods works out to 312 cu. in, if memory serves me correctly. I do recall the Renegade Hybrids built such a motor.

With all that RPM you are considering, the money will be spent on the valve train. If you're in a pinch for $$, perhaps you should consider a stock 4.8L LSx. Plenty of them in the truck salvage yards for cheap, and the weight penalty is only 63lbs vs. the alloy block.

Andys

Posted by: beam944 May 5 2014, 03:06 PM

The wife has ok'd me to build!! I have to start before she changes her mind...lol

Posted by: bulitt May 5 2014, 04:53 PM

In that case there is a 700hp Nascar truck engine on WSalem craigslist! Cost the guy 46,000$ but for you today 12,600$

Posted by: beam944 May 5 2014, 06:16 PM

Tired of the same ole same ole... heard enough nascar engines to not want one... I want to be different. I like the challenge of the unknown... and think the sound will set it apart from all the others. May just go Kurplunk Boom... but I think positive and think it will be awesome

Posted by: beam944 May 5 2014, 06:38 PM

I WANT THIS!!!

Posted by: bulitt May 5 2014, 07:36 PM

What are your thoughts on flares for massive rubber?
GT Flares
Fabbed up metal ones?
Sheridan widebody?
A.I.R. widebody?

Posted by: beam944 May 5 2014, 10:28 PM

The idea is fabbed carbon fiber...gonna try my hand at it

Posted by: messix May 5 2014, 10:54 PM

you like "whir woosh whistle poohf "?

that what turbos sound like ... not much ratta ratta rumble rumble... just sayin'

Posted by: beam944 May 5 2014, 11:46 PM

Kurplunk Boom would be a bad sound...lol

Posted by: beam944 May 5 2014, 11:46 PM

Kurplunk Boom would be a bad sound...lol

Posted by: beam944 May 14 2014, 10:05 PM

I am so ready to start this build...the shop has been slammed and don't see any daylight yet but I promise I will make you guys proud...I just found an oler photo that makes me smile and honored to have a wife that enjoys my passion of great cars..just wanted to share...



I will be posting updates soon

Posted by: Evil914 May 15 2014, 09:18 PM

Isn't that the sound of a 914 hitting mach 1?

Posted by: beam944 May 24 2014, 11:24 AM

New to me tig arrived..



Now waiting on the mig...and we can get started! Hope you guys have a safe and fun Memorial weekend!

Posted by: beam944 May 24 2014, 01:31 PM

I should have looked more carefully when I purchased the tig...it has made for a long afternoon.









Half way done...and it smells like chit...gag a maggot.

Posted by: Dr Evil May 24 2014, 01:35 PM

That is just foul

Posted by: Andyrew May 25 2014, 01:03 AM

The fuck? Is that just a shit ton of rust or is that some sort of cooling system thats way past its prime?

Posted by: beam944 May 25 2014, 07:49 AM

Bacteria....and a little rust...all good now. The joys of buying used, but for what I got in it I'm happy.