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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Magnus had an eventful day at the opening of MPLS Porsche

Posted by: ConeDodger Aug 24 2015, 06:48 PM

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Posted by: mepstein Aug 24 2015, 07:14 PM

Nice donor car.

Posted by: 914Sixer Aug 24 2015, 07:14 PM

Looks like the roll bar took the side impact.

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 24 2015, 07:25 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 24 2015, 08:14 PM) *

Nice donor car.


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Posted by: madmax914 Aug 24 2015, 07:32 PM

Any details on what happened?

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 24 2015, 07:32 PM

That really sucks. I didn't see THIS picture on his Instagram feed.

Everything but.

Posted by: scotty b Aug 24 2015, 07:40 PM

I'm definitely not one of his fanboy's, but I'll give him huge respect. He goes out and does what these cars are built to do. He has the money, and the connections. It can and will be fixed, and i'm sure he'll take it right back out to beat the snot out of it again smile.gif driving.gif

Posted by: ConeDodger Aug 24 2015, 07:48 PM

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Any details on what happened?


Must have been driving briskly. Almost had a head on collision with a vintage Mercedes which he spun out and hit the rear of a tractor trailer to avoid...

Posted by: 396 Aug 24 2015, 08:22 PM

With his resources, he can possibly buff it out. piratenanner.gif

Posted by: r_towle Aug 24 2015, 09:53 PM

A true outlaw now. A dented car at a car show.

Posted by: porschetub Aug 25 2015, 01:36 AM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Aug 25 2015, 01:40 PM) *

I'm definitely not one of his fanboy's, but I'll give him huge respect. He goes out and does what these cars are built to do. He has the money, and the connections. It can and will be fixed, and i'm sure he'll take it right back out to beat the snot out of it again smile.gif driving.gif

Nah me too ,he will survive,it will give him something to do finding a new shell or ringing someone to fix that one.

Posted by: MoveQik Aug 25 2015, 08:50 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Aug 24 2015, 06:32 PM) *

That really sucks. I didn't see THIS picture on his Instagram feed.

Everything but.

Man....did you read some of the comments on his feed? There are some people that *really* hate the guy. WTF.gif

Edit - Just went back and looked. They must have deleted them.

Posted by: PanelBilly Aug 25 2015, 09:19 AM

There's a 914 somewhere waiting for the drivetrain from that car

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 25 2015, 09:20 AM

Yup, not everybody on his feed are big fans.

He has his detractors.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 25 2015, 10:03 AM

Rumor has it, a car-hauler semi backed into it.

Posted by: ConeDodger Aug 25 2015, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Aug 25 2015, 11:19 AM) *

There's a 914 somewhere waiting for the drivetrain from that car


Perhaps a 904 project?

What? Too soon??? evilgrin.gif

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 25 2015, 11:02 AM

It could be the basis of a perfect 914 MagnusMobile.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 25 2015, 11:10 AM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 25 2015, 11:03 AM) *

Rumor has it, a car-hauler semi backed into it.


Well, that's a completely different story from what I heard. I read that a combination of cold asphalt and tires (it was only about 60 degrees here yesterday morning) and avoided a head on collision with a vintage MGB and slid into the back of the tractor trailer.

When talking to him about it, I got the impression that he was driving because he stated that this was the first car he's wrecked, "and it happened to be my favorite car", he said.

He also went on to say that this will give him a goal, that goal is to have it ready for Rennsport, so obviously he's fixing it.

Posted by: gms Aug 25 2015, 11:12 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Aug 25 2015, 11:12 AM) *

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Aug 25 2015, 11:19 AM) *

There's a 914 somewhere waiting for the drivetrain from that car


Perhaps a 904 project?

What? Too soon??? evilgrin.gif

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Oh Rob your killing me

Posted by: MoveQik Aug 25 2015, 11:22 AM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 25 2015, 09:03 AM) *

Rumor has it, a car-hauler semi backed into it.

With all the broken glass sitting right next the the car and not thrown everywhere, that seems more likely.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 25 2015, 11:39 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Aug 25 2015, 09:12 AM) *

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Aug 25 2015, 11:19 AM) *

There's a 914 somewhere waiting for the drivetrain from that car


Perhaps a 904 project?

What? Too soon??? evilgrin.gif


Lol.


Posted by: ThePaintedMan Aug 25 2015, 12:44 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Aug 25 2015, 12:12 PM) *

Perhaps a 904 project?

What? Too soon??? evilgrin.gif


av-943.gif Love it.

The cold tires, stupid hot-dogging driver scenario sounds more likely if you http://jalopnik.com/porsche-tuner-magnus-walker-had-a-real-bad-time-in-minn-1726208025?newlayout=on&typography=on&utm_expid=66866090-44.9lgYbt9uTo--NfTm3QaEBg.4&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

I've never been a fan of people spinning tires at car shows, or anywhere on the street.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 25 2015, 12:59 PM

"stupid hot-dogging driver scenario sounds more likely"

Ask Paul Walker and Roger Rodas……. sad.gif

Magnus Walker's crash probably could have been a lot worse, too.

Posted by: Mike Fitton Aug 25 2015, 01:08 PM

Take a good look at the pictures again no skid marks of any kind I think the truck back into it.
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Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 25 2015, 01:10 PM

I had not seen those pictures yet...interesting.

It still looks like an odd position for the trailer to back into the car, but yeah...no skid marks.

Posted by: Steve Aug 25 2015, 01:11 PM

If you look at his instagram feed, it looks like he swerved to miss the Mercedes and hit the trailer. It must of a been a city street. Why else would there be an 18 wheeler car trailer parked there? Next question would be why was he driving so fast on a city street?
@p911r on Instragram

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 25 2015, 01:15 PM

I'm pretty sure that's the road behind the dealership, I've been down that road many times, that's why the car hauler was there unloading cars for the grand opening probably.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Aug 25 2015, 01:29 PM

Judging from the photos I'd have to agree that the truck backed into the 911. No skid marks, all the debris is right there on the ground next to the car in the 1st photo & lastly if the car was moving why are there no signs of horizontal scrapes mixed in w/ the damage on the 911?

Posted by: RFoulds Aug 25 2015, 04:28 PM

If so, truck driver is stuck on a BIG hook. Should never have been backing with ramp extended anyway. More than a few have said they heard he spun though.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 25 2015, 04:37 PM

Shit happens sad.gif


... and everybody has at least one detractor dry.gif


Posted by: 914bub Aug 25 2015, 06:49 PM

Hard to say. The front wheels are turned to the left. If it did slide,(skid) you may not be able to see the skid marks.A better question is why would you ever park that way with the ass end hanging over the center line,not parallel parked, facing oncoming traffic?

Seriously, park your car THAT way given the circumstances? You'd have to be stupid to park your car behind a semi in that fashion when the semi obviously looks like it was loading/unloading cars.

No skid marks also support the story of cold slick tires and roads.

Posted by: ConeDodger Aug 25 2015, 09:12 PM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Aug 25 2015, 03:10 PM) *

I had not seen those pictures yet...interesting.

It still looks like an odd position for the trailer to back into the car, but yeah...no skid marks.


I doubt the truck would back up with the lift ramp extended...

Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 25 2015, 09:58 PM

I've heard both stories...

Posted by: iamchappy Aug 25 2015, 10:05 PM

Was a great party they threw, open bar, cigars, food, hot cars and hot chicks.
Magnus was busy signing autographs and posters all night, i had to wait till he was done before he had time to check out the 914 turbo, he took some pictures of me in it as i was getting ready to leave, he signed the cover of the fourteener magizine for me and a poster for Ollie. I will post pictures on another thread when i download them from my go pro...

Posted by: pete000 Aug 25 2015, 10:32 PM

Not that my opinion even matters, but why would he park the 911 in that position on a road like that and then walk away from it? Weird photo opp?

One thing is for sure it is elmuncho now...

Posted by: Zimms Aug 26 2015, 06:53 AM

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https://instagram.com/p/61WGFynIL6/

Posted by: iamchappy Aug 26 2015, 07:04 AM

Magnus was running late and had just jumped into a car to leave then popped out ran over and checked out my car had me fire it up and
took this picture of me leaving. He was a stand up guy.

Posted by: RobW Aug 26 2015, 07:10 AM

Great picture! Great car! Sounds like a great guy! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Mueller Aug 26 2015, 08:22 AM

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Great picture! Great car! Sounds like a great guy! smilie_pokal.gif



I agree...great picture!

I'd still like to meet Magnus one of these days...of course I still need to meet a few more 914world members 1st!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 26 2015, 08:46 AM

Best part is that no bones were broken, just some shaken nerves and change in plans.
New metal, parts and paint seem to find their way back on to damaged cars... in this case MW has his goals set high; Rennsport5 in less than a month sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif
Marty

Posted by: vw505 Aug 26 2015, 08:47 AM

I like that car i hope it gets fixed.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 26 2015, 12:06 PM

Looks to me like he tried to cut around the rig and cut the corner too close...truck was standing still.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 26 2015, 12:43 PM

I don't get why we can't just get the real story on what happened?

Somebody knows.

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 26 2015, 01:01 PM

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I don't get why we can't just get the real story on what happened?
Somebody knows.

Who needs facts when we can just make up stuff?


I say:

Magnus was trying to block the street because someone was smuggling a truck full of high quality car wax down from Canada with the intention of flooding the US market.
When the truck driver realized he was cornered between a Porsche dealership and the 911 he decided to try to break through the block and rammed into the car pushing it backwards for several feet until Magnus pointed his ray gun at the driver and made a citizen arrest.
#magnussuperhero


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Posted by: Chris914n6 Aug 26 2015, 02:34 PM

He was trying to pull a Knight Rider maneuver when the ramp failed to lower completely, so he had to bail at the last second. The Merc he supposedly avoided was filming it.

Posted by: 914_teener Aug 26 2015, 04:44 PM

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He was trying to pull a Knight Rider maneuver when the ramp failed to lower completely, so he had to bail at the last second. The Merc he supposedly avoided was filming it.



Simple.....just like Paul Walker:

Dot Bots...he hit them and spun out going 25 mph.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 26 2015, 06:23 PM

He is keeping quiet so he can try and convince the insurance company to pay for the repairs... If the truth comes out, they will reject the claim...

Posted by: dangerranger01 Aug 26 2015, 06:54 PM

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Aug 26 2015, 05:23 PM) *

He is keeping quiet so he can try and convince the insurance company to pay for the repairs... If the truth comes out, they will reject the claim...


I was thinking something along the same thing...I think the only acknowledgement he has made was that he is okay. But i can't seem to find that post (on facebook or instagram?). Will be interesting to see what happens.

Posted by: r_towle Aug 26 2015, 07:24 PM

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Posted by: Mike Fitton Aug 26 2015, 08:59 PM

What about the people who have posted on this thread and were at the event, like "iamchappy" they have to know what really happened.

Posted by: iamchappy Aug 26 2015, 09:05 PM

He was texting.....

Posted by: SKL1 Aug 26 2015, 09:08 PM

Pretty sure he was just driving down the road when a deer ran out in front of him and he swerved to miss it, lost control, and hit a tree...

Posted by: 914_teener Aug 26 2015, 09:24 PM

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He was texting.....



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Your 914 is very nice sir!

Nice picture as well BTW.


Posted by: Chris Pincetich Aug 26 2015, 11:05 PM


AWESOME pic! beerchug.gif
Another happy ending on 914World
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https://instagram.com/p/61WGFynIL6/


Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 27 2015, 10:39 AM

Here's the video:

http://video.startribune.com/porsche-crashes-during-twin-cities-media-event-with-our-reporter-inside/323095071/

--DD

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Aug 27 2015, 10:44 AM

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Here's the video:

http://video.startribune.com/porsche-crashes-during-twin-cities-media-event-with-our-reporter-inside/323095071/

--DD

That explains a lot, except the lack of skid marks. Were the tires that cold?

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 27 2015, 11:01 AM

What's a PORSH? The reporter refers to it several times confused24.gif

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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 27 2015, 11:09 AM

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That explains a lot, except the lack of skid marks. Were the tires that cold?

Have a closer look at the tires. They are slicks with no tread.
Those compounds rarely leave tire tracks, especially when cold.

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Posted by: SKL1 Aug 27 2015, 11:18 AM

Video shows it wasn't very well organized- blasting down the frontage road with other traffic, and the semi parked ON the road itself??? Pretty stupid if you ask me.

And that reporter has NO idea what she's doing either... couldn''t someone tell her how to pronounce it???

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Aug 27 2015, 11:31 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 27 2015, 01:09 PM) *

Have a closer look at the tires. They are slicks with no tread.
Those compounds rarely leave tire tracks, especially when cold.

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I had no idea- really surprised.

QUOTE(SKL1 @ Aug 27 2015, 01:18 PM) *

And that reporter has NO idea what she's doing either... couldn''t someone tell her how to pronounce it???

laugh.gif I was thinking the same thing

Posted by: Racer Chris Aug 27 2015, 11:33 AM

Having watched the news video, I think

Magnus Walker is a stupid shit who has no business behind the wheel of any Porsche!

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 27 2015, 11:39 AM

Well, there you have it...no more guessing what happened. 100% Magnus' fault and could have been really bad.

Glad everyone is okay, but the fact that the reporter mentions that she is "still banged up and bruised" and her delivery of the story leads me to believe that she may be looking for a little compensation...but that's just speculation on my part.

So my question, was the frontage road behind the dealership supposed to be closed off for this little show for the reporter? Obviously Magnus lost traction in that turn but he seemed caught off guard that there was oncoming traffic.

Posted by: jmitro Aug 27 2015, 12:02 PM

throttle off oversteer owns him.

stupid maneuver

Posted by: GregAmy Aug 27 2015, 12:33 PM

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Aug 27 2015, 12:44 PM) *

That explains a lot, except the lack of skid marks. Were the tires that cold?

The Tool runs Hoosiers on that car. On the street.

Being a talented designer does not make you Hurley Haywood. Or smart.

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http://magnuswalker911.blogspot.com/2012/10/hoosier-tires.html
http://magnuswalker911.blogspot.com/2012/12/hoosier-in-rain.html

Posted by: JRust Aug 27 2015, 01:00 PM

blink.gif Holy shit batman! wacko.gif . Watching that video I am amazed that happened. Not like it was a blind corner shades.gif . I think the real problem here was he wasn't driving a 914. It's that damn assdragger that is real problem here popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Aug 27 2015, 01:02 PM

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I think the real problem here was he wasn't driving a 914. It's that damn assdragger that is real problem here popcorn[1].gif

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Posted by: Steve Aug 27 2015, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(JRust @ Aug 27 2015, 12:00 PM) *

blink.gif Holy shit batman! wacko.gif . Watching that video I am amazed that happened. Not like it was a blind corner shades.gif . I think the real problem here was he wasn't driving a 914. It's that damn assdragger that is real problem here popcorn[1].gif

And that's why I sold my 993 and kept the 914. The 993 at least had a track correcting rear end, so the lift throttle oversteer wasn't as bad, but it still sucked.

Posted by: 87m491 Aug 27 2015, 01:09 PM

"My LOVE of HOOSIER tires began 10 years ago at the track.
i really like how the work on the street also!
not just that the sticky black rubber grips great for high speed cornering-it always works great for those late braking last second passes into a corner!"

Well maybe not so much.....


QUOTE(GregAmy @ Aug 27 2015, 10:33 AM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Aug 27 2015, 12:44 PM) *

That explains a lot, except the lack of skid marks. Were the tires that cold?

The Tool runs Hoosiers on that car. On the street.

Being a talented designer does not make you Hurley Haywood. Or smart.

Edit:
http://magnuswalker911.blogspot.com/2012/10/hoosier-tires.html
http://magnuswalker911.blogspot.com/2012/12/hoosier-in-rain.html


Posted by: wndsnd Aug 27 2015, 01:13 PM

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2015, 01:33 PM) *

Having watched the news video, I think

Magnus Walker is a stupid shit who has no business behind the wheel of any Porsche!



That says it all, guy can not drive.... Suprised he has not gone off the edge of Mulholland Drive....

Posted by: Andyrew Aug 27 2015, 01:17 PM

I wonder if now he'll permanently switch to the 914 smile.gif


That video shows lift throttle oversteer in the most classic sense smile.gif

Posted by: toolguy Aug 27 2015, 01:23 PM

An obvious rookie mistake. Plus a 'bone headed' run on a public street with opposing traffic.
Wonder if any law enforcement agency is evaluating the video.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 27 2015, 01:26 PM

he's pretty damn lucky he didn't seriously hurt or KILL that reporter. she sure didn't look like she had fun in the news report. if it had been my wife he would be building me a car. for $0. we'll see what comes of it. was that a private or public road?

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 27 2015, 01:36 PM

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was that a private or public road?


Public road, accident happened around the red circle on the map. Right at the Porsche Dealership. (old aerial image shows the old Audi/Porsche dealership, looks much different now)

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Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 27 2015, 01:45 PM

Shouldn't be hard to mail him a ticket. Reckless driving, exhibition of speed, crossing the centerline smile.gif the video will work well in court. I wonder if he gets tired of being asked if he's rob zombi.

Posted by: Ferg Aug 27 2015, 01:50 PM

The man made a mistake, a very public one.

I feel bad for him. We have all done it, but no need to berate the guy...

Posted by: Andyrew Aug 27 2015, 02:12 PM

^Yup. You can guarantee he feels bad enough already.

To me it looks like he was showing off for the lady which im sure NONE of us have done... slick road on even slicker tires..

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 27 2015, 02:16 PM

I think we've all done something stupid a time or two just maybe not so public. To me it doesn't really look like he was going that fast. damp pavement, cold tires and 911 pendulum effect... pinch.gif

If he had been in a 914 it may not have done that at that speed.

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 27 2015, 02:19 PM

OH!!! Just thought of something! Is this a new ad for Shea! Time to check your pads!

Posted by: GregAmy Aug 27 2015, 02:20 PM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Aug 27 2015, 03:50 PM) *

The man made a mistake, a very public one.

I feel bad for him. We have all done it, but no need to berate the guy...

Then I'm guessing you also feel bad for the http://bfy.tw/1VhD? Or does Walker get a "pass" because he's driving a Porsche?

The guy's a tool. The more public berating he gets, the more likely he'll give seconds thoughts to trying a such a stunt -- and it was most decisively an on-camera "hey y'all watch this" show-off stunt -- like this again.

"This is why we cannot have nice things".

GA

Posted by: Big Len Aug 27 2015, 02:35 PM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Aug 27 2015, 03:50 PM) *

The man made a mistake, a very public one.

I feel bad for him. We have all done it, but no need to berate the guy...


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Posted by: pete000 Aug 27 2015, 02:39 PM

No talking your way out of that one !

And he was a Porsche driver instructor !

Moral to the story is Cold race tires, tail heavy car design, and cold road don't mix !

Guy in the old Black SL must have pooped his pants !

Posted by: Ferg Aug 27 2015, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Aug 27 2015, 12:20 PM) *

QUOTE(Ferg @ Aug 27 2015, 03:50 PM) *

The man made a mistake, a very public one.

I feel bad for him. We have all done it, but no need to berate the guy...

Then I'm guessing you also feel bad for the http://bfy.tw/1VhD? Or does Walker get a "pass" because he's driving a Porsche?

The guy's a tool. The more public berating he gets, the more likely he'll give seconds thoughts to trying a such a stunt -- and it was most decisively an on-camera "hey y'all watch this" show-off stunt -- like this again.

"This is why we cannot have nice things".

GA



So tell me, if he was your brother or a close friend, would you still be calling him names? I feel bad for the reporter as well, I should have included her in my post.

Just trying to figure out if he was a "tool" before the accident or because of it?

Posted by: bandjoey Aug 27 2015, 02:45 PM

QUOTE(Zimms @ Aug 26 2015, 07:53 AM) *

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https://instagram.com/p/61WGFynIL6/


Hulk Hogan driving the Orange 914 ? Beautiful car!

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 27 2015, 02:53 PM

QUOTE(iamchappy @ Aug 26 2015, 08:04 AM) *

Magnus was running late and had just jumped into a car to leave then popped out ran over and checked out my car had me fire it up and
took this picture of me leaving. He was a stand up guy.


Forgot to mention Chap that I did end up going to the Grand Opening and saw your car. I showed the car to my dad and he was pretty impressed even though he's not a fan of 914s, he keeps trying to talk me out of my search for a 914. Sorry I missed getting to meet you though. It was a fun night and saw some Club members that I had not seen since I was a kid, which was so weird.

Anyway, glad that Magnus got to see and hear your car...very cool to see your picture end up on his Instagram!

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 27 2015, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(JRust @ Aug 27 2015, 12:00 PM) *
Not like it was a blind corner

The video clearly shows that he exits the parking lot right there with the truck already parked on the street. He must have known it was there.

My best guess is that he looked ahead and the two cars were obscured by the truck and he thought the other lane was clear.

From the video it seems like he setting up to pass the truck at speed and loses it when he lifts throttle as soon as he sees the other two cars.
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Posted by: GregAmy Aug 27 2015, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Aug 27 2015, 04:40 PM) *
So tell me, if he was your brother or a close friend, would you still be calling him names?

ABSOLUTELY!!! Even more so, and to their face!

And especially if someone did it that should know better, like RacerChris**, he'd NEVER hear the end of it from me!

Because it was stoooopid to:
- Drive race tires on the street that do not get sticky until they heat up (and he should know that, since he is an "instructor"*) despite the fact that, technically, they're DOT-approved (I don't think there's a rating for "DOT-smart");
- Drive around a (non-blind!) corner on a thin, no-shoulder, public two-lane road at excessive speeds without any form of crowd control, which...
- ...caused him to lose control and swing wide against said traffic, thus...
- ...forcing him to take an evasive maneuver that was well above his capabilities, and...
-...risk the safety of not only himself, and his passenger, but that of two other vehicles that were nearly hit by him, not to mention that of the pedestrian(s) standing immediately to the side of the road.

Harsh? Hardly. Dude was damned lucky that all he did was wrinkle his 911 and a trailer.

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Just trying to figure out if he was a "tool" before the accident or because of it?


"Because". Toolness is earned. Public toolness is shamed. Publicly.

GA

*Never mind.
**But he wouldn't, because he's not that much of a tool.

Posted by: Mueller Aug 27 2015, 03:04 PM

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2015, 10:33 AM) *

Having watched the news video, I think

Magnus Walker is a stupid shit who has no business behind the wheel of any Porsche!



You can honestly say you've never pulled a bone headed move before?

Yes, it could have been avoided, but sometime people get caught up in the heat of the moment and have a slight lapse of judgement....

Posted by: DirtyCossack Aug 27 2015, 03:19 PM

I actually think it took quite a bit of skill keeping the accident as minor as it was. By the time the oncoming cars became visible his options were limited and his actions made the best of a bad situation. (Assuming they were showboating as in the video) I assess that 65% of drivers would have hit the Benz, 20% would have hit the truck hard enough to pulverize the Porsche, 10% would have flipped the car, 4.5% would have done as seen, and .5% would have come away unscathed. I saw a bad decision that could have been catastrophic made minimal by good driving.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 27 2015, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 27 2015, 03:55 PM) *


My best guess is that he looked ahead and the two cars were obscured by the truck and he thought the other lane was clear.

From the video it seems like he setting up to pass the truck at speed and loses it when he lifts throttle as soon as he sees the other two cars.



This is pretty much spot on. He ASSumed that the other lane was clear and did not see the two cars until it was too late, lifted and lost control.

I'm not condoning his willingness to drive this way on a public road in cool weather with slicks and a semi blocking one lane of a two lane road. But, he paid the price for his mistake, a mistake that could have been much worse. I'm sure the reporter will be looking for something for her pain and suffering and police will be issuing a ticket (if they have not already) along with having to repair his favorite car to try and get it ready for Rennsport.

Posted by: naro914 Aug 27 2015, 03:28 PM

I won't say I'm a 'fan' of Magnus, but I admire what he's done. Read some history of him: the Urban Outlaw video was not his idea, someone else asked him to do it. THAT's what vaulted him to fame....and the rest as they say, is history. If ANY one of you had the same opportunity he's been given, you would take advantage of it too. He didn't seek the fame, it found him...

Having said that, yes, he's just as much an ass as those Mustang guys that do burn-outs and end up in crowds (were you at the Charlotte one GregAmy??), the Ferrari guys that do burn-outs and end up in crowds..or any other asshat that does it. Maybe even more-so since he's a celebrity and should know better than to show off.

I admire what he's done, but I've lost a lot of respect for him and his decision making. He's lucky he didn't hit that MB, or hurt that reporter...VERY lucky...

Posted by: Racer Chris Aug 27 2015, 03:34 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 27 2015, 05:04 PM) *

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You can honestly say you've never pulled a bone headed move before?
...

I have plenty of stories of bone-headed moves I've pulled.
I was never filmed by a news crew though, and my foolish behavior never involved innocent observers.

The tool in this story was being paid to represent Porsche, right? He has no excuse for such a major lapse of judgement.
They probably should have had Patrick Long (or any other true professional) do the driving exhibition.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 27 2015, 03:44 PM

The notion that it happened 'because of' ANY THING that compounded his reckless behavior is sort of a pass? The tires? Seriously? That's what 911s do? He's the same guy that does all that drifting in abandoned buildings for videos? Might as well lay some blame on the reporter for even getting in the car. 'Bone head' moves? Sure, when I was a child. Edit. He had 0 real line of sight as he exited the first corner, at speed, distracted by the reporter and the camera is a bonus. Would you give him a pass if he was driving like that in your neighborhood?

Posted by: naro914 Aug 27 2015, 04:06 PM

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2015, 05:34 PM) *

...... my foolish behavior never involved innocent observers.


agree.gif totally...that's the biggest issue I have!!
QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2015, 05:34 PM) *

They probably should have had Patrick Long (or any other true professional) do the driving exhibition.


I'm not sure there was supposed to be a 'driving exhibition'...


QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 27 2015, 05:44 PM) *

Would you give him a pass if he was driving like that in your neighborhood?

Again, exactly.

If this was a CLOSED road, with no potential hazards (like a big ass truck!), that would be one thing...but doing it on a public open road, with a passenger, with oncoming traffic, etc.. He should know better.

Again, I like the guy, I admire things he's done, but this lapse of judgement was pure stupidity...

Posted by: iamchappy Aug 27 2015, 06:44 PM

You guys it wasn't exactly cold out it was probably in the 70's, he sacrificed his car as not to hit anyone else's no doubt the trailer was blocking his view of the on coming cars, there was a lot of activity going on around the building to get it ready for the party, i blast around that corner all the time its my old neighbor hood, i use to ride my bike on the dirt trails where the road and building are now it was a huge vacant field area and abandoned golf course... generally there is not much traffic coming from that direction and the road that intersects it is closed and under construction. With that said it was a dumb thing to do with the trailer there. On another note about his character Magnus is a stand up guy and i found him very pleasant to talk too and watched him interact with everyone, and he made sure everyone had there time with him, his nose is not out of joint he seems to be a real gentlemen and down to earth and respectful. On first impression the guy looks like he could be one of the Duck Dynasty dudes gnarly dreadlocks....

Posted by: iamchappy Aug 27 2015, 06:47 PM

And he even snapped a great picture of me in my car, it was his idea....


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Posted by: okieflyr Aug 27 2015, 07:25 PM

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Aug 27 2015, 04:16 PM) *

If he had been in a 914 it may not have done that at that speed.


OR it would have just kept spinning barf.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 27 2015, 07:28 PM

From what I digress from this unfortunate adventure, it does not look like Porsche was offering a ride-along experience. Although Magnus was present as a guest celebrity at the dealership, I think that the moment he drove off on public roads he was on his own.
I attended the media ( press) launch of the 991 which was held on the closed course tarmac of Santa Maria Airport. Upon signing a waiver, Factory drivers provided the ride-along. Walter Rhörl was one of the drivers w00t.gif
I would not have expected to see Herr Rhörl drifting on a main st.in a Porsche.
Magnus being a POC guy , instructor and holds a competition license probably just got caught up in the moment with a newsfeed camera rolling/reporter on board. Had he been piloting a CGT, that side hit that he took just behind the drivers door would have had a more serious consequence : as in fuel tank impact.
Lucky it was not any worse for all involved.

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Posted by: 914_teener Aug 27 2015, 07:43 PM

I don.t see ANY difference between this and what happened to Paul Walker other than the fact that two people walked away with their lives and relatively unhurt.

Posted by: JRust Aug 27 2015, 07:44 PM

I am surprised it happened there & with Magnus. I've done plenty of stupid things in my life. I have had the benefit of doing them when nobody was there to see it. Let alone record the whole thing. Hell Ive documented my own idiocy on more than one occasion. Sucky situation to be in for everyone involved. All it would take is a question from the reporter coming into the turn to distract him for a second. I know plenty of people will blast him for it. Deservedly so too. Having said that I'm not going to hold it against him. I'd still love to meet the guy & talk cars.

Posted by: naro914 Aug 27 2015, 08:00 PM

I should have also noted that I've met him a couple times, and as said, he's a cool guy...if he wasn't "famous" you'd think he was just another Porsche enthusiast.... Maybe that's why I'm disappointed in this....he doesn't come off as a show off, seems like a grounded type of guy and like someone that would shy away from showing off or doing something stupid...

I'd really love to hear what he has to say.... I think he would do himself a lot of good to own up to a stupid mistake and take full responsibility for it and not try to blame it on this or that...

Posted by: bigkensteele Aug 27 2015, 08:03 PM

QUOTE(iamchappy @ Aug 27 2015, 04:44 PM) *

You guys it wasn't exactly cold out it was probably in the 70's, he sacrificed his car as not to hit anyone else's no doubt the trailer was blocking his view of the on coming cars, there was a lot of activity going on around the building to get it ready for the party, i blast around that corner all the time its my old neighbor hood, i use to ride my bike on the dirt trails where the road and building are now it was a huge vacant field area and abandoned golf course... generally there is not much traffic coming from that direction and the road that intersects it is closed and under construction. With that said it was a dumb thing to do with the trailer there. On another note about his character Magnus is a stand up guy and i found him very pleasant to talk too and watched him interact with everyone, and he made sure everyone had there time with him, his nose is not out of joint he seems to be a real gentlemen and down to earth and respectful. On first impression the guy looks like he could be one of the Duck Dynasty dudes gnarly dreadlocks....

I agree. He is a good guy whose head wasn't where it should have been at that moment. He isn't a stupid guy. He didn't wake up that morning thinking "I need to do something really stupid today".

I wish that I could take back all of my mistakes, and I am thankful that none ever caused anyone any serious ill and that none that I know of were ever filmed. But I am also thankful that I am not famous in any way shape or form (wealth makes it even worse) - who wants to live with a bulls-eye on their back every waking moment. Just look at this thread and all the people who are so eager to take the guy down a notch. If he weren't who he is, nobody here would know or even care about this unfortunate event. dead horse.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 27 2015, 11:15 PM

Over five pages for this? Is everyone done making judgments? Or should we continue on? laugh.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 27 2015, 11:35 PM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Aug 27 2015, 12:50 PM) *

The man made a mistake, a very public one.

I feel bad for him. We have all done it, but no need to berate the guy...


agree.gif I started doing stupid things the day I was born………………... I still haven't stopped.

Posted by: mbseto Aug 28 2015, 09:52 AM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Aug 27 2015, 04:57 PM) *

...forcing him to take an evasive maneuver...


From the video, it looks like there was no evasive manuever to be had. It was a judgement error and once he made it, driving ability only let's you choose what you're going to hit. He was really lucky they weren't in the middle of raising/lowering that ramp.

Posted by: Valy Aug 28 2015, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Aug 27 2015, 09:39 AM) *

Here's the video:

http://video.startribune.com/porsche-crashes-during-twin-cities-media-event-with-our-reporter-inside/323095071/

--DD

Plain stupid driver. I'm thankful he didn't do it in a 914. I hope to never see him.driving one.
No other way to put it.

Posted by: Mueller Aug 28 2015, 10:32 AM

Question for all you Negative Nancy's:

How many of you have gone on 914world or other car club driving events on twisty roads?

Of all the ones I've been on, 99% of the cars and drivers broke many, many laws....

Lots of speeding above the posted limit, many times well over the limit...

then we have following too close for the conditions, I mean if someone posted a full video of the last WCR drives I'm sure in the 1st few minutes we'd spot bone head moves or breaking the law and doing something we'd normally not do.


Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 28 2015, 10:41 AM

i've never plowed into a trailer. i've never plowed into a trailer with a reporter or anyone else in the car. i've never attempted to do prob 3x+ the posted speed limit on a 2 lane frontage road, thru 2 corners, with a semi PARKED in my lane and on coming traffic. quick, someone jump off of a bridge.

Posted by: SLITS Aug 28 2015, 11:03 AM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 28 2015, 09:32 AM) *

Question for all you Negative Nancy's:

How many of you have gone on 914world or other car club driving events on twisty roads? every RRC and Route 66

Of all the ones I've been on, 99% of the cars and drivers broke many, many laws....Only if you get caught

Lots of speeding above the posted limit, many times well over the limit... Doesn't run well under 90

then we have following too close for the conditions, I mean if someone posted a full video of the last WCR drives I'm sure in the 1st few minutes we'd spot bone head moves or breaking the law and doing something we'd normally not do.If you can't hear your exhaust note bouncing off my front end, I'm not close enough


Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 28 2015, 11:20 AM

QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 28 2015, 12:03 PM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 28 2015, 09:32 AM) *

Question for all you Negative Nancy's:

How many of you have gone on 914world or other car club driving events on twisty roads? every RRC and Route 66

Of all the ones I've been on, 99% of the cars and drivers broke many, many laws....Only if you get caught

Lots of speeding above the posted limit, many times well over the limit... Doesn't run well under 90

then we have following too close for the conditions, I mean if someone posted a full video of the last WCR drives I'm sure in the 1st few minutes we'd spot bone head moves or breaking the law and doing something we'd normally not do.If you can't hear your exhaust note bouncing off my front end, I'm not close enough



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Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 28 2015, 11:27 AM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 28 2015, 11:41 AM) *

i've never plowed into a trailer. i've never plowed into a trailer with a reporter or anyone else in the car. i've never attempted to do prob 3x+ the posted speed limit on a 2 lane frontage road, thru 2 corners, with a semi PARKED in my lane and on coming traffic. quick, someone jump off of a bridge.


But if you ever did, nobody would know, or care, about it.

Posted by: RoadGlue Aug 28 2015, 11:52 AM

Not sure how many of your remember the old RoadGlue.com drives we threw back before the 'Club sites came about. MOST of us were driving like we owned the roads. Speed limits were only acknowledged in heavily populated areas. The front of the pack treated the runs like road races. If you weren't driving 9/10ths then chances were that you either lost the pack or were having out with just a few others that probably thought we were nuts.

There were accidents! I'll leave out names, but at least one person ran off the road and and down a steep embankment. Another less experienced driver tried keeping up with the pack in the rain on Hwy 9 and within about 30-seconds hit a guard rail. Another time two friends (one in a 914 and another in a Boxster) ran into another another in an intersection.

It got out of hand. Looking back I'm amazed nobody was injured or killed.

I normally held pre-run drivers meetings like at auto-x events, but they went like this: "Thanks everyone for showing up. We've created a great route for you today. Here's a map. We'll be stopping at a, b, and c. Drive it like you stole it, slow drivers at the rear of the pack, nobody die today, k?"

We tempt ourselves by driving performance cars. Maturity helps, but sometimes that gas pedal tempts us to throw out reason for adrenaline.

I did just one run with the local RR PCA group back maybe ten or so years ago. The route was ho-hum, but they had the bars spaced out every twenty minutes of road time or so. I bailed as soon as I saw that they were using the liquor to lube their egos. Nut jobs.

I'm not making excuses. Just trying to see why otherwise "normal" people will go out and do stupid things without taking into consideration the huge consequences our actions might make us face.

I can't even begin to cast a stone. I'm just glad injuries were minor as it could have been a lot worse. Life moves on, he'll probably never pull a stunt like that again (I hope!).

He wasn't in a neighborhood. I have ZERO tolerance for hooliganism around helpless kids.

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 28 2015, 12:02 PM

Try running with the 928 guys in the metro and through rural WI.... They have lots of power and gooood brakes! Watched a 32 valve car drift and darn near loose it on an off camber corner through the windshield of the Alien close enough to smell the brakes...

Posted by: euro911 Aug 28 2015, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 28 2015, 09:32 AM) *
Question for all you Negative Nancy's:

How many of you have gone on 914world or other car club driving events on twisty roads?

Of all the ones I've been on, 99% of the cars and drivers broke many, many laws....

Lots of speeding above the posted limit, many times well over the limit...

then we have following too close for the conditions, I mean if someone posted a full video of the last WCR drives I'm sure in the 1st few minutes we'd spot bone head moves or breaking the law and doing something we'd normally not do.
Breaking the speed limit? - uh, yeah, I suppose so hide.gif ... but I tried to leave lots of room behind the 'BB' ... just ask Reese & Sherwood happy11.gif

Posted by: Mueller Aug 28 2015, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Aug 28 2015, 03:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 28 2015, 09:32 AM) *
Question for all you Negative Nancy's:

How many of you have gone on 914world or other car club driving events on twisty roads?

Of all the ones I've been on, 99% of the cars and drivers broke many, many laws....

Lots of speeding above the posted limit, many times well over the limit...

then we have following too close for the conditions, I mean if someone posted a full video of the last WCR drives I'm sure in the 1st few minutes we'd spot bone head moves or breaking the law and doing something we'd normally not do.
Breaking the speed limit? - uh, yeah, I suppose so hide.gif ... but I tried to leave lots of room behind the 'BB' ... just ask Reese & Sherwood happy11.gif



I don't remember speeding at all...I was driving the twin-turbo 996 so we had to stay in the back sad.gif .... or was it really? MDB2.gif

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Aug 28 2015, 08:08 PM

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Aug 28 2015, 10:20 AM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 28 2015, 12:03 PM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 28 2015, 09:32 AM) *

Question for all you Negative Nancy's:

How many of you have gone on 914world or other car club driving events on twisty roads? every RRC and Route 66

Of all the ones I've been on, 99% of the cars and drivers broke many, many laws....Only if you get caught

Lots of speeding above the posted limit, many times well over the limit... Doesn't run well under 90

then we have following too close for the conditions, I mean if someone posted a full video of the last WCR drives I'm sure in the 1st few minutes we'd spot bone head moves or breaking the law and doing something we'd normally not do.If you can't hear your exhaust note bouncing off my front end, I'm not close enough



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Posted by: iamchappy Aug 28 2015, 08:48 PM

I try not to shift into 5th gear on my short blasts,I'm around 100 at the end of 4th, if caught going over a 100 in minnesota you lose your license and your car.

Posted by: steuspeed Aug 28 2015, 09:19 PM

Looks like the tail started to come out and then really came around when it hit the yellow paint to me. Not a lot of options at that point with on coming traffic popping out from behind the truck. His original intention may have been to swing it into the parking lot for the media shot. You can see the photographer in the grass. Why would you go around the truck unless you had traffic stopped ahead?

Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 28 2015, 09:32 PM

We've all driven stupid.

The stupid this he did was driving stupid with a reporter in the car... chair.gif

Posted by: infraredcalvin Aug 28 2015, 09:57 PM

"Watch this!"

Posted by: Mueller Aug 28 2015, 10:31 PM

QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Aug 28 2015, 08:57 PM) *

"Watch this!"



Better than: "hold my beer while I...." smile.gif

Posted by: gms Aug 29 2015, 09:27 AM

QUOTE(RoadGlue @ Aug 28 2015, 12:52 PM) *

I can't even begin to cast a stone...

That is good because I have video biggrin.gif
before gopro was around
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Posted by: gms Aug 29 2015, 09:47 AM

OR

nope he is unstoppable

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sorry E, I couldn't resist

Posted by: RoadGlue Aug 29 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(RoadGlue @ Aug 28 2015, 12:52 PM) *

I can't even begin to cast a stone...

That is good because I have video biggrin.gif
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At least the statutes of limitations has passed!

Posted by: Heeltoe914 Aug 29 2015, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(RoadGlue @ Aug 28 2015, 10:52 AM) *

Not sure how many of your remember the old RoadGlue.com drives we threw back before the 'Club sites came about. MOST of us were driving like we owned the roads. Speed limits were only acknowledged in heavily populated areas. The front of the pack treated the runs like road races. If you weren't driving 9/10ths then chances were that you either lost the pack or were having out with just a few others that probably thought we were nuts.

There were accidents! I'll leave out names, but at least one person ran off the road and and down a steep embankment. Another less experienced driver tried keeping up with the pack in the rain on Hwy 9 and within about 30-seconds hit a guard rail. Another time two friends (one in a 914 and another in a Boxster) ran into another another in an intersection.

It got out of hand. Looking back I'm amazed nobody was injured or killed.

I normally held pre-run drivers meetings like at auto-x events, but they went like this: "Thanks everyone for showing up. We've created a great route for you today. Here's a map. We'll be stopping at a, b, and c. Drive it like you stole it, slow drivers at the rear of the pack, nobody die today, k?"

We tempt ourselves by driving performance cars. Maturity helps, but sometimes that gas pedal tempts us to throw out reason for adrenaline.

I did just one run with the local RR PCA group back maybe ten or so years ago. The route was ho-hum, but they had the bars spaced out every twenty minutes of road time or so. I bailed as soon as I saw that they were using the liquor to lube their egos. Nut jobs.

I'm not making excuses. Just trying to see why otherwise "normal" people will go out and do stupid things without taking into consideration the huge consequences our actions might make us face.

I can't even begin to cast a stone. I'm just glad injuries were minor as it could have been a lot worse. Life moves on, he'll probably never pull a stunt like that again (I hope!).

He wasn't in a neighborhood. I have ZERO tolerance for hooliganism around helpless kids.


Please add me to the list of stupid things done that where not caught on video.. Yes I was smiling but I was taking a hell of a lot of chances..
Today i will wear my Magnus Walker urban outlaw hat proudly. I don't know about you but I'm counting the minutes not days not weeks not months before I do something stupid again.... I'm just glad no one got hurt.


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Posted by: ThePaintedMan Aug 29 2015, 07:40 PM

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2015, 01:33 PM) *

Having watched the news video, I think

Magnus Walker is a stupid shit who has no business behind the wheel of any Porsche!


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Now that Krusty is gone, I'll gladly take over the reigns, so bring it on... As I said before, that is a flat-out, dumbshit hot-dogging crash with LIKELY could have caused that poor reporter her life if not for pure luck.

No one, not you, not some guy with a cool 911 and not even "Yahweh" Walker should be doing that shit on a public road. Some folks have their heads way too far up his ass to see the reality, which is... these things are dangerous. You as a driver have no right to put someone else in that situation, whether they're in the passenger seat or the other lane. At 31, I'm a lot younger than a lot of you guys, but even I know better. You're damn right he gets made an example of here - he is a celebrity, and for all the credit he gets as a "designer" or "fabricator", he should get equal credit as a dumbass. And as such, he should take the opportunity to educate others about the dangers of driving like that on the street... ESPECIALLY as a driving coach!

Posted by: bigkensteele Aug 29 2015, 11:42 PM

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Aug 29 2015, 05:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Aug 27 2015, 01:33 PM) *

Having watched the news video, I think

Magnus Walker is a stupid shit who has no business behind the wheel of any Porsche!


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Now that Krusty is gone, I'll gladly take over the reigns, so bring it on... As I said before, that is a flat-out, dumbshit hot-dogging crash with LIKELY could have caused that poor reporter her life if not for pure luck.

No one, not you, not some guy with a cool 911 and not even "Yahweh" Walker should be doing that shit on a public road. Some folks have their heads way too far up his ass to see the reality, which is... these things are dangerous. You as a driver have no right to put someone else in that situation, whether they're in the passenger seat or the other lane. At 31, I'm a lot younger than a lot of you guys, but even I know better. You're damn right he gets made an example of here - he is a celebrity, and for all the credit he gets as a "designer" or "fabricator", he should get equal credit as a dumbass. And as such, he should take the opportunity to educate others about the dangers of driving like that on the street... ESPECIALLY as a driving coach!

George, I have never met you, but I like you a lot for what you contribute here. We all make mistakes, and I think that you may remember one you made regarding a driving suit or something not long after you joined here. You were young and just out of school and sought our opinion on what you should do in the situation you found yourself in. We overwhelmingly told you that you were wrong and needed to make it right. You ended up doing the right thing, and you were accepted here and appreciated as such.

Probably 3% of the people on Earth who own sports cars have not done something stupid at some point. Of the other 97%, most probably don't pay much price for it, but when they do, why is there a need to lynch the guy and act like you have never driven somewhat less than safe? You have. We all have. It is part of owning a performance car. You don't buy it or build it to drive the speed limit and wave hi to the neighbors.

I am not saying that we should all just go out and be idiots, but I would not believe you if you told me that when you take your 914 out for a ride on public roads that you obey any and all laws. If so, then why not just buy a Camry or Malibu?

Regarding the Krusty, there will never be another, and it would be best if nobody ever tried to replace him. He was him. You are you. Move on.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 30 2015, 03:45 AM

agree.gif ... We've all probably pulled some not-so-well-thought-out stunts at one time or another. Some are lucky and come away unscathed, others aren't as fortunate.

I'm pretty sure Mr. Walker learned a valuable lesson from the mishap and that's all I'll say regarding the man. I'm just glad to see that nothing worse happened ... shades.gif

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Aug 30 2015, 06:44 AM

QUOTE

George, I have never met you, but I like you a lot for what you contribute here. We all make mistakes, and I think that you may remember one you made regarding a driving suit or something not long after you joined here. You were young and just out of school and sought our opinion on what you should do in the situation you found yourself in. We overwhelmingly told you that you were wrong and needed to make it right. You ended up doing the right thing, and you were accepted here and appreciated as such.


Ken, I'm glad you remember and brought up that incident. Indeed I did make a mistake, but mine in this case didn't threaten anyone's life. A little different I would say. But I do see your point. I wrote that last night as I was already emotional about other stuff going on. Perhaps should have thought more before posting. Thanks for the kind words.

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Aug 30 2015, 01:42 AM) *

I am not saying that we should all just go out and be idiots, but I would not believe you if you told me that when you take your 914 out for a ride on public roads that you obey any and all laws. If so, then why not just buy a Camry or Malibu?


It's not really a fair thing for me to comment on, since I don't drive my car on the street anymore... but no, personally I don't do any "spirited" driving on the street. I have had one close call once early on when I was trying to keep up with others at an event, but something about getting married and seeing the face of your first child changes that. I save it for the track where things can still go wrong, but the variables and number of lives endangered are far fewer.

I guess I can wrap my head around "We all make mistakes." But, it does disappoint me that a 48 year old guy still feels the need to do that stuff on the street. High schoolers already have enough bad influences... it bothers me when gents who have been around awhile are still spinning their tires leaving car shows, parades, etc. We all know that it only takes a split second... the Paul Walker (who, by the way was a passenger) incident demonstrated that one quite well.

Anyhow, sorry for getting so worked up. This one kind of hits home for me - lost a good friend to showboating, so I have to admit that I'm biased.

Posted by: RobW Aug 30 2015, 07:31 AM

"Seatbelts does make a difference!" av-943.gif av-943.gif av-943.gif

Just thought that the statement at the end of the video was irrelevant. Everyone wears a seatbelt these days...


Posted by: RobW Aug 30 2015, 07:34 AM

Clearly MW didn't know where he was and got caught demonstrating the car. A MW 914 would have made the curve and he would have had more issues shutting it down.

Posted by: RobW Aug 30 2015, 07:38 AM

Roadglue... that was awhile back! The 914 and Boxster thing on the wet road, and the guard rail thing. Good fun.

Anyone who had the FnF thing in their veins, go run PCA AX for a season, and it will take all of the streetlight to streetlight thing out of you... or at least it should.

Posted by: RoadGlue Aug 30 2015, 09:38 AM

Yes, and indeed!

I hadn't auto-x'd or participated in a DE track day until well after we stopped the RoadGlue stuff. Wish I had much sooner as I'm sure it would have straightened my head out a bit in terms of the aggressive street driving when I was younger.

I blame my mom! We used to travel around the state to visit relatives in our 70's duster. She drove like a mad woman, crossing over the centerline... I'm not even sure we wore seatbelts half the time.

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(mom)

Posted by: SLITS Aug 30 2015, 12:07 PM

QUOTE(RoadGlue @ Aug 30 2015, 08:38 AM) *

I blame my mom! We used to travel around the state to visit relatives in our 70's duster. She drove like a mad woman, crossing over the centerline... I'm not even sure we wore seatbelts half the time.

driving-girl.gif
(mom)


And current female drivers are different how other than driving SUVs?

Posted by: RobW Aug 30 2015, 12:30 PM

QUOTE(RoadGlue @ Aug 30 2015, 08:38 AM) *

Yes, and indeed!

I hadn't auto-x'd or participated in a DE track day until well after we stopped the RoadGlue stuff. Wish I had much sooner as I'm sure it would have straightened my head out a bit in terms of the aggressive street driving when I was younger.

I blame my mom! We used to travel around the state to visit relatives in our 70's duster. She drove like a mad woman, crossing over the centerline... I'm not even sure we wore seatbelts half the time.

driving-girl.gif
(mom)

Is your real name Ricky Bobby? av-943.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 30 2015, 12:49 PM

QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 30 2015, 11:07 AM) *
And current female drivers are different how other than driving SUVs?

My mother used to race in demolition derbies when i was a kid. My uncle prepared the cars for her and she drove them (pretty successfully i might add).
She also taught me how to drive on snow and ice.

Last time i went back to Germany to visit her she proudly showed me a new trophy she had just won competing in a local rally race.

She is 73 ...
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Posted by: RoadGlue Aug 30 2015, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 30 2015, 11:49 AM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 30 2015, 11:07 AM) *
And current female drivers are different how other than driving SUVs?

My mother used to race in demolition derbies when i was a kid. My uncle prepared the cars for her and she drove them (pretty successfully i might add).
She also taught me how to drive on snow and ice.

Last time i went back to Germany to visit her she proudly showed me a new trophy she had just won competing in a local rally race.

She is 73 ...
driving-girl.gif


Wow, you win. That's awesome!

My mom said she wished she could have raced (she couldn't, another story).

Posted by: bigkensteele Aug 30 2015, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Aug 30 2015, 04:44 AM) *

... but something about getting married and seeing the face of your first child changes that.

Amen.

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Anyhow, sorry for getting so worked up. This one kind of hits home for me - lost a good friend to showboating, so I have to admit that I'm biased.

Very sorry to hear that, and understandable that you are emotional about it. I truly hope that we all learn a little lesson here.

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Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 30 2015, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(RoadGlue @ Aug 30 2015, 02:33 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 30 2015, 11:49 AM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 30 2015, 11:07 AM) *
And current female drivers are different how other than driving SUVs?

My mother used to race in demolition derbies when i was a kid. My uncle prepared the cars for her and she drove them (pretty successfully i might add).
She also taught me how to drive on snow and ice.

Last time i went back to Germany to visit her she proudly showed me a new trophy she had just won competing in a local rally race.

She is 73 ...
driving-girl.gif


Wow, you win. That's awesome!

My mom said she wished she could have raced (she couldn't, another story).



Just read this to Sandy. We both agree.gif driving-girl.gif beerchug.gif first.gif

Posted by: veekry9 Aug 31 2015, 11:58 AM

Hoisted on his own petard. biggrin.gif
Doh!!
BTDT. dry.gif
An exciting scary ride was had.

Posted by: Jgilliam914 Sep 1 2015, 11:29 AM

Say what you want about Magnus. I am sure it is not his proudest of moments. But many with a long hood ass dragger is thankful for him. I had read his passion for these cars have driven up the prices of these significantly over the past few years. So when I get mine completed I will toast him for his feats prior to this regrettable event!!

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 1 2015, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(Jgilliam914 @ Sep 1 2015, 01:29 PM) *

Say what you want about Magnus. I am sure it is not his proudest of moments. But many with a long hood ass dragger is thankful for him. I had read his passion for these cars have driven up the prices of these significantly over the past few years. So when I get mine completed I will toast him for his feats prior to this regrettable event!!


I like Magnus but I doubt he had much at all to do with the prices going up. That has been slowly building for some time...

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Sep 1 2015, 09:35 PM

My mother used to race at the old Baylands Dragstrip In fremont, California (Hwy 880 & Auto Mall Parkway). Back in the early to late 70's, she would put me in the stands with a friend and race her VW Beetle! I wish I had pictures of that, probably why I have been into aircooled VW's for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: Mueller Oct 26 2015, 11:19 PM

http://www.thegentlemanracer.com/2015/10/video-magnus-walker-in-dangerous-street.html

Yep, older video showing him racing a Honda Civic on the freeway with traffic....




Posted by: euro911 Oct 27 2015, 01:07 AM

The streets and freeways in metropolitan areas are not the place to do this. Driving fast only entices others to do the same.

I remember a time several years ago, Dianne & I were coming home from a Joe Sharp BBQ, N/B on the 405, and two rice rockets came up dangerously weaving in and out of traffic (racing each other). One of the drivers (in a 350z) almost hit us attempting to enter the carpool lane we were in (he had no passenger either).

Dianne got the license # for the z and called the CHP. It wouldn't surprise me if either one of those guys (or possible both) have totaled their cars by now confused24.gif

Posted by: naro914 Oct 27 2015, 11:15 AM

So I liked the guy originally and somewhat envied what he's accomplished - I have total respect for someone that is 'self made' and have no problem at all with self promotion...

Then the incident with the truck soured me a bit...if you want the celebrity and fame/fortune that comes with it, you also need to accept the responsibility...especially when representing a brand like Porsche.

Now seeing this video? "teenage punk" is all I can think of....yes I know he's not a teenager, but he sure seems to act like one. VERY disappointing and just about any level of respect I had for him is now out the window...

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Oct 27 2015, 11:30 AM

*Ahem*... TOLD YA SO.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 27 2015, 11:56 AM

This is the public view, directly off of someone's cloud right on to the World's lap. The video MW hopes that his auto- insurer never watches sad.gif

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Oct 27 2015, 12:48 PM

When I met him in Minneapolis the day he crashed 277 (before I saw the video), he said it was the first time he's ever wrecked a car.

It's a shame really. He's built some beautiful Porsches and I absolutely love that he drives his cars and understands that these cars are supposed to be driven. BUT, you don't have to race them on public roads in traffic. Can you not just drive them and enjoy cruising while sharing the road with commuters? The world is not your race track Magnus...

Posted by: Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You Oct 27 2015, 01:23 PM

Did anyone else who saw the car at Rennsport notice they were careful when painting to match the "patina" of the rest of the car?

It wasn't a show quality job on the wrecked portion...I'd be interested to know from some of our painters here how they do it? It wasn't like there were rock chips..just looked a little "dirty" and old like the rest? confused24.gif

Posted by: euro911 Oct 27 2015, 01:32 PM

Every now and then I find myself goosing it to thwart a line of gutter snipers, but I find it less stressful just trying to get in the far left lane so I don't have to deal with those fucks ... a symptom of Low T, I guess laugh.gif

The speed limit on the street in front of our city hall (and PD) is 35mph. I'll do +/- 40, but I see people passing me doing 50 ~ 60mph all the time WTF.gif

Even some of the 'spirited' drives on back roads we've done during some of the events I've attended have gotten a little out of hand. Fortunately, I can only remember one mishap that occurred and nobody was injured (car was totaled though) dry.gif

Posted by: john77 Oct 27 2015, 03:15 PM

QUOTE(Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You @ Oct 27 2015, 12:23 PM) *

Did anyone else who saw the car at Rennsport notice they were careful when painting to match the "patina" of the rest of the car?

It wasn't a show quality job on the wrecked portion...I'd be interested to know from some of our painters here how they do it? It wasn't like there were rock chips..just looked a little "dirty" and old like the rest? confused24.gif



Alchemy paint did the work. Matt painted it and then 'aged' it to match the rest of the car. You can see some of what he did on instagram @alchemy_paint

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