Posted by: pdlightning Jan 15 2016, 08:49 PM
I know it has been listed before, but time has passed and I needed clarification from the experts that have already completed their conversions.
I am using a Meziere 55 GPM pump on my LS conversion and remember comments that a Toyota Supra or similiar car radiator was utilized .My questions are as follows:
Which Meziere pump is best and how was the thermostat handled since it is removed with the stock pump? Am I close to remembering the Toyota Supra radiator? (Thanks Andy)
Also, I received the attached response from Meziere and wondered if someone had a water routing diagram to help in designing the system .
We do sell the WP316 water pump and others for the conversions. In the typical LS remote water pump you would run the 2 lines coming out of the pump go to the two lower ports on the front of the engine. The two upper port normally tee into 1 line at the engine and the thermostat would go in this line returning to the radiator. (Thanks to Jerry from Meziere)
Thanks to all for your continued support and guidance!
Posted by: Andyrew Jan 15 2016, 10:13 PM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=196107&hl=
Have you bought that water pump yet? If not you might consider a Davies Craig water pump.
http://daviescraig.com.au/electric-water-pumps
I bought this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161666642895?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Posted by: jimkelly Jan 16 2016, 05:29 AM
celica radiator
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180911644623?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
see my threads
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=270334&hl=
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=142240&st=300
many thanks to bigkat and A&P mech..
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Jan 16 2016, 07:35 AM
On my LS conversion I used a Dodge belt driven nascar engine water pump. I modified this to mount remote on the LS engine. This is a pump made by stewart.
On the front for the air intake I took out the rubber plugs in the holes and cut this area.
I then used a GT front valance and cut the matching opening in the front bumper.
I'm not using the Toyota Celica radiator but feel like it would work fine.
Meziere can sell you all the parts you need to install their pump on the LS engine.
![Attached Image](http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-194-1452951226.jpg)
My pump
![Attached Image](http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-194-1452951606.jpg)
I'll send you a pm with another option.
Bob
Posted by: bulitt Jan 16 2016, 08:44 AM
I use the Dedenbear manifold and Elec water pump on my SBC but the pump would work on an LS.
![Attached Image](http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-13632-1452954918.jpg)
I found this electronic controller which will manage the electric water pump and your fans. They also sell inline fan controllers.
http://daviescraig.com.au/product/lcd-ewp-fan-digital-controller-part-no-8000/lcd-ewp-fan-digital-controller-part-no-8000
Posted by: andys Jan 16 2016, 11:19 AM
QUOTE(1stworks @ Jan 16 2016, 06:56 AM)
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I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP?
Andys
Posted by: 1stworks Jan 16 2016, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(andys @ Jan 16 2016, 10:19 AM)
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QUOTE(1stworks @ Jan 16 2016, 06:56 AM)
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I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP?
Andys
T Stats still flows when closed.There's a small hole in it.
Posted by: andys Jan 16 2016, 01:12 PM
QUOTE(1stworks @ Jan 16 2016, 10:17 AM)
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QUOTE(andys @ Jan 16 2016, 10:19 AM)
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QUOTE(1stworks @ Jan 16 2016, 06:56 AM)
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I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP?
Andys
T Stats still flows when closed.There's a small hole in it.
That electric WP flows 55 GPM, and the hole in the Tstat is awfully small for that much volume. I'm just concerned that there would be undue load on the electric motor in the WP until the Tstat opens. Does Meziere recommend this configuration?
Thanks,
Andys
Posted by: 1stworks Jan 17 2016, 09:45 AM
QUOTE(andys @ Jan 16 2016, 12:12 PM)
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QUOTE(1stworks @ Jan 16 2016, 10:17 AM)
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QUOTE(andys @ Jan 16 2016, 10:19 AM)
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QUOTE(1stworks @ Jan 16 2016, 06:56 AM)
![*](style_images/Howard/post_snapback.gif)
I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP?
Andys
T Stats still flows when closed.There's a small hole in it.
That electric WP flows 55 GPM, and the hole in the Tstat is awfully small for that much volume. I'm just concerned that there would be undue load on the electric motor in the WP until the Tstat opens. Does Meziere recommend this configuration?
Thanks,
Andys
No problems using this setup.Have a few thousand miles.
This Renagade recommendation....
You'll kill your motor if you don't run it at operating temp.
Posted by: pdlightning Jan 24 2016, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(pdlightning @ Jan 15 2016, 06:49 PM)
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I know it has been listed before, but time has passed and I needed clarification from the experts that have already completed their conversions.
I am using a Meziere 55 GPM pump on my LS conversion and remember comments that a Toyota Supra or similiar car radiator was utilized .My questions are as follows:
Which Meziere pump is best and how was the thermostat handled since it is removed with the stock pump? Am I close to remembering the Toyota Supra radiator? (Thanks Andy)
Also, I received the attached response from Meziere and wondered if someone had a water routing diagram to help in designing the system .
We do sell the WP316 water pump and others for the conversions. In the typical LS remote water pump you would run the 2 lines coming out of the pump go to the two lower ports on the front of the engine. The two upper port normally tee into 1 line at the engine and the thermostat would go in this line returning to the radiator. (Thanks to Jerry from Meziere)
Thanks to all for your continued support and guidance!
With all this excellent information, I will have to consult with my engineering consultant (Andy) to figure out everything. I am very appreciative of the information, thanks.
I couldn't do this without your help and Andy's guidance.
Posted by: jimkelly Jan 25 2016, 06:36 AM
wow. I like this. seems to be a lot less hose on the front of a sbc.
QUOTE(bulitt @ Jan 16 2016, 07:44 AM)
![*](style_images/Howard/post_snapback.gif)
I use the Dedenbear manifold and Elec water pump on my SBC but the pump would work on an LS.
![Attached Image](http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-13632-1452954918.jpg)
I found this electronic controller which will manage the electric water pump and your fans. They also sell inline fan controllers.
http://daviescraig.com.au/product/lcd-ewp-fan-digital-controller-part-no-8000/lcd-ewp-fan-digital-controller-part-no-8000