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Posted by: cooper951 Feb 19 2016, 07:56 AM
My '74 came without any badges or emblems, so I've gathered them all and will install this weekend. I know not all 914's have the front hood badge, but I like the look. If someone could measure the distance I would appreciate it.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 19 2016, 08:08 AM
None of them came from the factory with the Porsche badge on the hood. Location is a matter of personal preference. There are a lot of pictures on this site with badge placement. I would just say don't place it to high as it looks funny.
Posted by: McMark Feb 19 2016, 08:11 AM
12" forward of the front of the car.
Posted by: dflesburg Feb 19 2016, 08:14 AM
This is how I have lined them up on the cars I have done.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 19 2016, 08:19 AM
If you must have one. Cut out a paper copy. Tape it to the hood. Look at it for a while. Once you decide you like the placement, drill the holes.
Posted by: JOEPROPER Feb 19 2016, 08:28 AM
I'm mixed on the hood badge subject. I like it on my orange car but not on the red one. The red one is too high on the hood, maybe that's why. I would definitely measure twice.
Posted by: Spoke Feb 19 2016, 08:29 AM
Do as Porsche did. The crest on my '86 930 is 3.25 inches from the front edge of the hood to the tip of the crest.
Posted by: cooper951 Feb 19 2016, 08:33 AM
Thanks for the help (and the pic!) The hood crest came from my '86 951, so there is a bit of sentimentality involved as well.
Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 19 2016, 08:47 AM
None of them came from the factory with the Porsche badge on the hood. Location is a matter of personal preference. There are a lot of pictures on this site with badge placement. I would just say don't place it to high as it looks funny.
The 914-8's given to Ferry Porsche and Ferdinand Piëch did have emblems, the double headlight one looks way too low, but the silver one looks good.
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 19 2016, 08:53 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds. 
Posted by: toolguy Feb 19 2016, 09:09 AM
Put it exactly where Porsche did, on a 911.
Brings to mind the thread with the 914 that had about 25 logos and crest's on it. .
One or 25. . why ???
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Feb 19 2016, 09:31 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
Said the guy who put a Japanese engine in his Porsche.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Feb 19 2016, 09:40 AM
Don't drill holes in the hood, break off the pins
and use a good double sided tape to attach it..
That way it is removable if you don't like the placement.
Posted by: Larmo63 Feb 19 2016, 09:45 AM
I'm not a fan of the crest on a hood of a 914 Porsche.
I wouldn't do it.
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 19 2016, 09:45 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
Said the guy who put a Japanese engine in his Porsche.
And whose 40 year old Type 4 blew up on the way to a Rt66.
Posted by: dflesburg Feb 19 2016, 09:46 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
Said the guy who put a Japanese engine in his Porsche.
LOL
Posted by: luskesq Feb 19 2016, 09:47 AM
Pelican has a tech article on placement: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_hood_crest/914_hood_crest.htm
I happen to like the crest. To each their own (and it is your car).
Keith
Posted by: DBCooper Feb 19 2016, 10:14 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
Said the guy who put a Japanese engine in his Porsche.
It's the difference between "show" and "go". He chose "go". Reasonable choice.
Posted by: Tom_T Feb 19 2016, 11:39 AM
If you're going to add a hood crest, then I personally feel that the lower spot as in this pic from above looks better than too high ....
IMHO the one on the 2 headlight 914-8 above just looks too high - rather than using the line across the high-point of the eyebrows as in dflesburg's pic above (or even a tad lower). You can also use the low point - from the bottom point of the crest to the bottom of the curve of the eyebrows/headlight-lids - rather than the centerline of the badge to the high point of the brow as in the yellow line on the pic above, since that may be easier to find than the badge center (essentially the same location, but possibly an easier measurement technique).
When using the suggested Porsche factory recco'ed position on 911/912/930 noted above as 3.25" (IIRC it's something like 80 or 86 mm in their factory manuals) - I would look visually at the distance on a `64-74 911/912 from the front of the full body-work (not just from the edge of the hood lid - the convenient measuring point), & then compare that to the full distance to the front of the 914's bumper/top-pad front edge - since it's all a continuous line on the 914s.
I think that Porsche designers came up with a 911/912 front hood emblem placement based upon the overall look & setback from the frontal bodywork - then used the measurement from the set hood front edge for that visually best & balanced location aas an easy means for factory workers & dealers/bodyshops to place them.
Our 914s have a different front edge & frontal look than the 64-74 911/912, due to the integrated front bumper (both steel & BUB) which flows continuously in one line - so the visually perfect spot is going to be a different measurement for the front edge of the hood by necessity.
Of course - as you can see from the posts so far - the placement is all in the eye of the beholder, & you'll see them from as low as they can get it to clear the frame on the underside of the front deck lid (hood) to the top back edge of the headlight covers.
So as Mark Epstein said, using a paper or decal temporarily to get "your perfect placement" is a great idea!
Also, I think gandolf's suggestion of using a modern automotive emblem adhesive is a better idea, than drilling 2 new "doors" for the dreaded "tin worm"! I actually was thinking of doing this on my resto too, so I can remove it if needed later on.
Obviously the crest has an attachment for you, so use it - but realize that the crest's up to 73-74 MY were the old school red-orange bands, then they switched over to the red-red bands in 74 on 911s IIRC.
Have Fun with it! 
Tom
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 19 2016, 10:25 PM
Gandalf 025 wins the prize. That is a perfect solution and keeps the hood intact in the event you want to remove the emblem. Most cars nowadays have their emblems double side tape affixed and they have no issues.
Posted by: RickS Feb 19 2016, 11:48 PM
It's your car and do what you want. You know what they say about opinions...
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Feb 20 2016, 12:12 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
Said the guy who put a Japanese engine in his Porsche.
And whose 40 year old Type 4 blew up on the way to a Rt66. It didn't "blow up". It was a valve guide, damn it!!
Posted by: Puebloswatcop Feb 20 2016, 06:57 AM
My '74 came without any badges or emblems, so I've gathered them all and will install this weekend. I know not all 914's have the front hood badge, but I like the look. If someone could measure the distance I would appreciate it.
I just took the picture of the original 914 with the hood badge, drew a digital line across the hood and it appears as if they drew a straight line across from the corners of the headlight covers where it meets the eyebrows and that is where the point of the crest is.
Posted by: RobW Feb 20 2016, 07:03 AM
Not all Porsche crests are the same either. Get a pretty one. 
Posted by: Coondog Feb 20 2016, 08:06 AM
Honestly I never really paid any attention to the hood emblem. I always figured it was put on by the factory. My preferences always lean to debadging a car. When I back dated my bumpers I removed the 914-1.8 in the rear but never gave thought to the hood emblem.
Back in 1983 when my first 914 was totaled out by a piece of 
driver the last thing I did was remove the very dented hood emblem which I still have today.
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 20 2016, 09:20 AM
I've got a NOS badge still in the plastic bag. Came with the car. Do they have any value? 
Posted by: RickS Feb 20 2016, 09:29 AM
I've got a NOS badge still in the plastic bag. Came with the car. Do they have any value?
Original Porsche sell for $70 on the bird.
You could list it for $45 easy.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 20 2016, 09:31 AM
I've got a NOS badge still in the plastic bag. Came with the car. Do they have any value?
Old orange badge - yes, nos orange badge - YES!
Newer red badge - no
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 20 2016, 10:09 AM
I've got a NOS badge still in the plastic bag. Came with the car. Do they have any value?
Old orange badge - yes, nos orange badge - YES!
Newer red badge - no
It's the RED one. If it were orange it would be in my safe.
Posted by: RobW Feb 20 2016, 10:17 AM
I had one that was gray blue....
Posted by: stugray Feb 20 2016, 12:52 PM
I took mine off, filled the holes in the hood when I painted and put the emblem on my wall where it belongs.
Posted by: siverson Feb 20 2016, 01:08 PM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
Said the guy who put a Japanese engine in his Porsche.
That is funny.
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Feb 20 2016, 02:42 PM
Gandalf 025 wins the prize. That is a perfect solution and keeps the hood intact in the event you want to remove the emblem. Most cars nowadays have their emblems double side tape affixed and they have no issues.
Unless some scumbag punk uses a screwdriver to pry it off.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Feb 20 2016, 02:49 PM
Gandalf 025 wins the prize. That is a perfect solution and keeps the hood intact in the event you want to remove the emblem. Most cars nowadays have their emblems double side tape affixed and they have no issues.
Unless some scumbag punk uses a screwdriver to pry it off.
Do you really think a "scumbag punk" is going to know if the badge is taped on
and not pinned on just by looking at it from outside the car ??
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Feb 20 2016, 02:54 PM
Why, yes. I do. My car had the scratches and a big dent from someone who tried to steal my nutted badge. He obviously thought it was taped on.
Posted by: KELTY360 Feb 20 2016, 02:55 PM
Gandalf 025 wins the prize. That is a perfect solution and keeps the hood intact in the event you want to remove the emblem. Most cars nowadays have their emblems double side tape affixed and they have no issues.
Unless some scumbag punk uses a screwdriver to pry it off.
Do you really think a "scumbag punk" is going to know if the badge is taped on
and not pinned on just by looking at it from outside the car ??
Hell, a "scumbag punk" will probably wonder why there's a Porsche emblem on an X1/9.
Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 20 2016, 06:19 PM
I kind of like this crest
Posted by: bandjoey Feb 20 2016, 06:37 PM
37 posts over a stinking badge You know we don need no stinking badges man! 
Oh yeah. Here's mine.
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Posted by: somd914 Feb 20 2016, 06:47 PM
For each their own... Here's mine compliments of the PO... If it were a stock gold one, well, I think it would be off, but I like the silver.
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 20 2016, 07:25 PM
12" forward of the front of the car.
Make up your mind McMark! You told me it goes under the right front tire!
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 21 2016, 07:44 AM
Put it where it belongs; in your glove box or the classifieds.
I agree. A couple of my cars have had (or have) them. I don't like it. When Scottyb redid my Zambezi green car I had him remove it.
Of course, it's your car and you should do whatever you want!
Posted by: sb914 Feb 21 2016, 08:51 AM
not me !
Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 21 2016, 09:56 AM
The factory never put it there either.
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 21 2016, 11:05 AM
I kind of like this crest
Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 10 2022, 07:59 AM
Broke down and installed a Porsche Crest to make my car feel better when parked.
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 10 2022, 08:33 AM
And I placed mine in the classifieds this year after I welded up the holes. I also had a NOS badge still in the bag. They both sold very quickly. Who'da thunk they be in demand?
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Sep 10 2022, 09:20 AM
Orange, on the back 
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Posted by: Front yard mechanic Sep 10 2022, 01:18 PM
Put it on upside down everyone will talk about your car
Posted by: emerygt350 Sep 10 2022, 03:03 PM
I like the way it looks with the crest but I have two reasons not to:
1) I drive my car all over and that includes the grocery store. I wouldn't want to come out and see it's missing. Particularly if it's a sentimental piece.
2) PO apparently had one, I had to fix the scratches and stuff caused by the theft of his. Nobody wants to come out and see their car all messed up.
Posted by: bbrock Sep 11 2022, 09:38 AM
I also like the look of the badge on some colors of 914 and am strongly leaning toward doing it for two reasons.
1) The Porsche design team officially voted to badge the car but the VW-Porsche marketing cluster prevented it from happening.
2) It really irritates a lot of people
However, if I did it, I'd cut the posts off and mount with 3M trim tape. No way would I drill the hood.
A few weeks ago I took a drive in the car with a friend and let him drive it to a small town where we had lunch. As we ate outside next to the car, I asked what he thought about badging the car. His first question was whether it came from the factory with a badge. No, but then I told the story of the design team voting to badge but the car already being marketed as VW-Porsche in Europe so the badge never happened. A couple weeks later he says, "I've been thinking about the badge. I think you should do it." I tend to agree. I credit everything that is great about these cars to the design team and everything that is bad to the botched marketing. I like the idea of honoring the wishes of the design team even though I doubt many of them lost sleep over never seeing the badge on the car.
Posted by: vitamin914 Sep 11 2022, 10:29 AM
I also like the look of the badge on some colors of 914 and am strongly leaning toward doing it for two reasons.
1) The Porsche design team officially voted to badge the car but the VW-Porsche marketing cluster prevented it from happening.
2) It really irritates a lot of people
However, if I did it, I'd cut the posts off and mount with 3M trim tape. No way would I drill the hood.
A few weeks ago I took a drive in the car with a friend and let him drive it to a small town where we had lunch. As we ate outside next to the car, I asked what he thought about badging the car. His first question was whether it came from the factory with a badge. No, but then I told the story of the design team voting to badge but the car already being marketed as VW-Porsche in Europe so the badge never happened. A couple weeks later he says, "I've been thinking about the badge. I think you should do it." I tend to agree. I credit everything that is great about these cars to the design team and everything that is bad to the botched marketing. I like the idea of honoring the wishes of the design team even though I doubt many of them lost sleep over never seeing the badge on the car.
If you decide to add the badge, I would mount it in the same location as in the 914-8 (Mark Henry's photo on page 1). That would most likely be the location where the design team would have placed it.
I agree with not drilling holes. Makes change of mind much easier too.
Or do what I did... add another 914 to the stable... My 74 does not have the badge, my 73 does.
Posted by: bbrock Sep 11 2022, 12:49 PM
I also like the look of the badge on some colors of 914 and am strongly leaning toward doing it for two reasons.
1) The Porsche design team officially voted to badge the car but the VW-Porsche marketing cluster prevented it from happening.
2) It really irritates a lot of people
However, if I did it, I'd cut the posts off and mount with 3M trim tape. No way would I drill the hood.
A few weeks ago I took a drive in the car with a friend and let him drive it to a small town where we had lunch. As we ate outside next to the car, I asked what he thought about badging the car. His first question was whether it came from the factory with a badge. No, but then I told the story of the design team voting to badge but the car already being marketed as VW-Porsche in Europe so the badge never happened. A couple weeks later he says, "I've been thinking about the badge. I think you should do it." I tend to agree. I credit everything that is great about these cars to the design team and everything that is bad to the botched marketing. I like the idea of honoring the wishes of the design team even though I doubt many of them lost sleep over never seeing the badge on the car.
If you decide to add the badge, I would mount it in the same location as in the 914-8 (Mark Henry's photo on page 1). That would most likely be the location where the design team would have placed it.
I agree with not drilling holes. Makes change of mind much easier too.
Or do what I did... add another 914 to the stable... My 74 does not have the badge, my 73 does.
I agree that's the best placement. However, they put the badge (a sticker IIRC) on Piech's 914-8 stupidly low so apparently even Porsche couldn't decide the correct placement. It looks hideous that low though.
If I do this, the badge will actually be stuck to PPF so not even the tape will touch the paint.
So do you decide which 914 to drive by whether you are in the mood to irritate people?
Posted by: mb911 Sep 11 2022, 01:32 PM
This is how I placed mine. Seems right. 
Posted by: bbrock Sep 11 2022, 02:04 PM
This is how I placed mine. Seems right.
Yeah. That's the spot!
Posted by: type2man Sep 11 2022, 09:16 PM
I have no badges on mine, but alas, I have to answer the ever eternal question which everyone asks, is it a fiat.
Posted by: mlindner Sep 12 2022, 08:43 AM
This is how I placed mine. Seems right.
Car looks great Ben.
Posted by: sb914 Sep 12 2022, 08:51 AM
Posted by: emerygt350 Sep 12 2022, 09:20 AM
I have no badges on mine, but alas, I have to answer the ever eternal question which everyone asks, is it a fiat.
i had 30 something ask me at a stop sign "is that real?" the other day.
At first I thought it might have been the chalon thing but the more I think about it, most young folks have never seen an unadulterated 914 either.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 12 2022, 10:06 AM
At our local Classic Car Show on Friday night, I had more than 1 person ask if my car was a Ferrari? I wanted to show them a picture of @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241 Chris' build and say "Yes".
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 12 2022, 10:17 AM
I also like the look of the badge on some colors of 914 and am strongly leaning toward doing it for two reasons.
1) The Porsche design team officially voted to badge the car but the VW-Porsche marketing cluster prevented it from happening.
2) It really irritates a lot of people
However, if I did it, I'd cut the posts off and mount with 3M trim tape. No way would I drill the hood.
A few weeks ago I took a drive in the car with a friend and let him drive it to a small town where we had lunch. As we ate outside next to the car, I asked what he thought about badging the car. His first question was whether it came from the factory with a badge. No, but then I told the story of the design team voting to badge but the car already being marketed as VW-Porsche in Europe so the badge never happened. A couple weeks later he says, "I've been thinking about the badge. I think you should do it." I tend to agree. I credit everything that is great about these cars to the design team and everything that is bad to the botched marketing. I like the idea of honoring the wishes of the design team even though I doubt many of them lost sleep over never seeing the badge on the car.
If you decide to add the badge, I would mount it in the same location as in the 914-8 (Mark Henry's photo on page 1). That would most likely be the location where the design team would have placed it.
I agree with not drilling holes. Makes change of mind much easier too.
Or do what I did... add another 914 to the stable... My 74 does not have the badge, my 73 does.
I agree that's the best placement. However, they put the badge (a sticker IIRC) on Piech's 914-8 stupidly low so apparently even Porsche couldn't decide the correct placement. It looks hideous that low though.
If I do this, the badge will actually be stuck to PPF so not even the tape will touch the paint.
So do you decide which 914 to drive by whether you are in the mood to irritate people?
If your "Hell Bent upon Tattooing" your "Pristine Teen" then go with the Silver n Black crest. Ben's car color compliments the red crest so it that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.
Posted by: JoeD Sep 12 2022, 11:14 AM
Mine had one when I got it. It was chipped and broken. I decided to keep the crest when I had it repainted. Went this direction and I really like it.
Posted by: Van B Sep 12 2022, 11:33 AM
I haven’t seen it specifically stated on this thread, but the crest placement on all Porsche cars is centerline left to right and 80mm from the point of the crest to the edge of the hood.
Posted by: fixer34 Sep 12 2022, 11:43 AM
Ok, so where do I get a decent looking/condition badge? Mine is more 'survivor' status so it doesn't have to be pristine.
Why do I want it? Well, I had the front hood replaced 30+ years ago and it had the 2 mounting holes already drilled and painted. Been staring at those 2 holes ever since. Maybe it's time to cover them up.
Car is '70 Irish Green if it matters.
Posted by: Van B Sep 12 2022, 12:44 PM
You can buy all version new from Porsche and you can find lots of used ones on eBay.
Don’t forge the gasket and retaining nuts
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