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Posted by: Mike_S Apr 4 2005, 11:56 PM
Hi everyone,
I make the 911R parts for the 911 guys, AR Concepts.
I was asked by a few people now to make 911R style tail lights for the 914. It's a lot of work to get the first set out so I'm asking before I start.
What do you guys think?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Mike Swanson
http://members.cardomain.com/911r_parts
Posted by: mattillac Apr 5 2005, 12:01 AM
very cool! but i think most of us are too cheap to buy them. 
just post a step by step on how to make them instead! 
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 5 2005, 07:12 AM
I'll pass... it doesn't do it for me personally...
Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 5 2005, 07:29 AM
Cool idea... it was discussed here a while back. My guess is you'd have a few takers. I'm building a GT clone and like someone who's building an R clone... it wouldn't be correct with those lights.
Depending on the price and how they looked installed I would think you could sell a few.
Posted by: Gint Apr 5 2005, 07:40 AM
I never cared much for them even on the 911 where they are correct. Pretty sure I wouldn't buy them for a 914 where they're not correct. But that's just me...
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 5 2005, 07:42 AM
Don't care if they are correct, but don't care for the look. I would not buy them for a 914.
Posted by: synthesisdv Apr 5 2005, 07:58 AM
damn,
I'll take a set, how much $$ and how much lb do I save?
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Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 5 2005, 08:02 AM
Photoshop deal?
Those look 100% better than I thought. Very cool.
Posted by: synthesisdv Apr 5 2005, 08:07 AM
| QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Apr 5 2005, 09:02 AM) |
| Photoshop deal? Those look 100% better than I thought. Very cool. |
yup, looks serious.
far as what is correct, I don't care much.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 5 2005, 08:10 AM
| QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Apr 5 2005, 09:02 AM) |
| Photoshop deal? Those look 100% better than I thought. Very cool. |
they DO look better than I thought... and I don't care about "correctness" but they are not for me...
Posted by: djm914-6 Apr 5 2005, 08:45 AM
I kinda like the look. Then again, I also like slant nose 911s just because their different. I can't say I'd buy a set as I'm too cheap though. CSOBONE member!
Judging by the trends on this board, I think if the type R lenses were made red with a chrome background or mabe carbon fiber then they would sell. Maybe a little led or purple neon to add a bit of bling too.
Posted by: red914 Apr 5 2005, 09:04 AM
those are way kewl! it would depend, of course, on price, but those are awesome lookin'! i have often thought about ways to modify the taillights ala "outlaw" style.
Posted by: Series9 Apr 5 2005, 09:23 AM
If they look like the Photoshoped lights pictured here and are of very high quality, I'd get a set.
Quality is key.
Posted by: Mike_S Apr 5 2005, 09:53 AM
Thanks for all the replies!
The photoshop job does look allright. From a design standpoint it would be how far to recess the lights and how far apart. The 911 light has alot of plan view so they kind of staircase around. The 914 light is pretty flat and wide, so they would be a little farther apart or it might look odd.
As far as weight goes, a complete lamp weighs under 3/4lb, stock 911 lamp weighs around 4lbs.
If I get a taillight lens I'll make a quick prototype and post pictures.
Posted by: Series9 Apr 5 2005, 10:10 AM
I just had a look at your website (link in your signature) and was VERY impressed with your 911R lights. That's the kind of quality I was talking about.
Put me on the list. I'm serious and will prepay if it'll get me a set made.
I would like to have them yesterday. 
Posted by: lagunero Apr 5 2005, 10:13 AM
| QUOTE (914RS @ Apr 5 2005, 08:10 AM) |
| Put me on the list. I'm serious and will prepay if it'll get me a set made. I would like to have them yesterday. |
me too!
Posted by: Mueller Apr 5 2005, 11:32 AM
now that I've seen them "mocked" up on the car....I like them....
Hey Mike, if you do make them and sell some here, don't "forget" about me 
Posted by: KaptKaos Apr 5 2005, 12:05 PM
Me too!!
Me like.
Posted by: fiid Apr 5 2005, 12:10 PM
I could go for that look at the right price. Especially if it got rid of some electrical gremlins. 
Fiid.
Posted by: bondo Apr 5 2005, 01:10 PM
I'm not interested in the taillights.. But if you could make a front turn signal lens that looks like this but fits the stock housing, I'd be all over it.
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Posted by: Nick Apr 5 2005, 02:11 PM
Love it. I want a pair
Posted by: KaptKaos Apr 5 2005, 06:03 PM
I would like a housing and light that replaces the entire flip-up mechanism and motor for the headlights, and leaves a nicely covered light in its place (like on a Ferrari F40). Delete the motors and the housing and left with a nice clean plastic cover and save 40 pounds!
Posted by: Brando Apr 5 2005, 07:26 PM
KaptKaos, sort of like how the 924GTR looked? That would rock
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 5 2005, 07:42 PM
Mike,
Make the base in Carbon Fiber, you'll get buyers. I really like the "R" idea but have chosen another design.
Are you an RGruppe member? I like what Cris has created, I may have to get a tail dragger. 
Posted by: Mike_S Apr 5 2005, 08:01 PM
No I'm not an Rgruppe member. I actually don't even own one. I used to work with Freeman Thomas and he asked if I could make R light that actually fit the car. Thats how I got mixed up in all this Porsche stuff.
Carbon Fiber is a real pain to layup in shapes like that. It wouldn't be worth it, unless people wanted to pay a few hundred bucks just for the plates. To do it I would have to use prepreg and autoclave it to get it in the corners.
Headlights wouldn't be bad, but small projector assemblies aren't that cheap.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 6 2005, 11:13 AM
| QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Apr 5 2005, 07:03 PM) |
| I would like a housing and light that replaces the entire flip-up mechanism and motor for the headlights, and leaves a nicely covered light in its place (like on a Ferrari F40). Delete the motors and the housing and left with a nice clean plastic cover and save 40 pounds! |
like turbo914.com (or 914turbo.com) used to promise was coming?!
seriously, they used to have a "kit" to put lights like you are talking about in... similar to a mitsu 3000GT(later style, with 3 small headlights, not flip up)... which I've long thought about trying to adapt to a 914... they are almost the same size...
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 6 2005, 11:15 AM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Apr 6 2005, 10:13 AM) | ||
like turbo914.com (or 914turbo.com) used to promise was coming?! seriously, they used to have a "kit" to put lights like you are talking about in... similar to a mitsu 3000GT(later style, with 3 small headlights, not flip up)... which I've long thought about trying to adapt to a 914... they are almost the same size... |
someone was selling a car here that had plexiglass where the headlights used to be....
it didnt look very good IMO..... pretty cheezy with the 2 mini lights in there....
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 6 2005, 11:46 AM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Apr 6 2005, 12:15 PM) | ||||
someone was selling a car here that had plexiglass where the headlights used to be.... it didnt look very good IMO..... pretty cheezy with the 2 mini lights in there.... |
yea, my first teener, the PO had removed the flip-ups and put square Chebbie headlights in the holes, cut the bumper to make it work, and put black plexi over it...
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 6 2005, 12:56 PM
| QUOTE (Mike_S @ Apr 5 2005, 06:01 PM) |
| No I'm not an Rgruppe member. I actually don't even own one. I used to work with Freeman Thomas and he asked if I could make R light that actually fit the car. Thats how I got mixed up in all this Porsche stuff. Carbon Fiber is a real pain to layup in shapes like that. It wouldn't be worth it, unless people wanted to pay a few hundred bucks just for the plates. To do it I would have to use prepreg and autoclave it to get it in the corners. Headlights wouldn't be bad, but small projector assemblies aren't that cheap. |
Mike,
Relatively high considering complete hoods are $500 to $800 each. Maybe you can simplify the bezel...
Posted by: KaptKaos Apr 6 2005, 01:56 PM
| QUOTE (Brando @ Apr 5 2005, 05:26 PM) |
| KaptKaos, sort of like how the 924GTR looked? That would rock |
Exactly!
Thanks for the reminder - not a good pic, but....
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Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 6 2005, 02:01 PM
ewww
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 6 2005, 02:57 PM
yea, those headlights are hideous on a 914... I'll try and find pics of "whitey" when I brought it home... those headlights were the first thing I took car of.. 
the PO had jacked the headlights wiring so bad, I never got the headlight motors to work... it basically looked like the pics above, but the plastic over the square headlights was "smoked" which is my opinion of the whole Idea 
Posted by: fiid Apr 6 2005, 03:25 PM
It really should be done with HID projector units. That would be cool, and is probably the only hope of actually hitting the road on low-beams. I plan on working on this several years in the future when my car actually runs.
Fiid.
Posted by: Mike_S Apr 6 2005, 04:10 PM
When I get some lights, I'll make a quick prototype and post the pictures when done.
Posted by: 94teener Apr 6 2005, 04:58 PM
Royce,
This is what I did for the front side markers, VW late model clear, amber flash, markers behind the front fenders. A hell-of-bunch of work. I won't do it again.
Phil
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Posted by: 94teener Apr 6 2005, 04:59 PM
Ooops! Just a hole, no marker. My avitar shows the marker.
Phil
Posted by: nsyr Apr 6 2005, 07:39 PM
don't remember where i got the pic, but here ya go
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Posted by: nsyr Apr 6 2005, 07:42 PM
nother
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Posted by: jd74914 Apr 6 2005, 07:49 PM
original is better
Posted by: KaptKaos Apr 6 2005, 08:02 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Apr 6 2005, 05:49 PM) |
| original is better |
Original is heavier. Not really concerned with looks, but with weight. Gathering parts and info now to build me a lightweight.
Posted by: Brando Apr 6 2005, 08:14 PM
And I was about to say ... they may only look good in a car that's had the fender for the turn signals shaved
I don't think that car looks so bad. Maybe needs front turn signals, but it looks okay.
Posted by: 914gem Apr 6 2005, 10:43 PM
| QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Apr 6 2005, 06:02 PM) | ||
Original is heavier. Not really concerned with looks, but with weight. Gathering parts and info now to build me a lightweight. |
Aluminum trunk skins save a little weight. Use 20ga aluminum with tin so it won't bend at high speeds. Peel your steel skin off, flaten the edges and use for a pattern. The doors can be done the same way, just a lot of work where the door handle and vent window post are. For the door handle use two 2X4 with a c section cut out to match the shape of the handle. clamp the aluminum between the 2X4s and work the shape with hammers and put a lip on it with vise grips. It sounds simple and is after the second or third set. Use 3M metal to metal bonder. While you have the door skin off you can cut the guard rail out. I'll be doing a few sets soon and I'll try to get some pictures of how it's done so you can save weight and a $1000.00 a set.
Posted by: bondo Apr 7 2005, 01:19 AM
| QUOTE (94teener @ Apr 6 2005, 03:58 PM) |
| Royce, This is what I did for the front side markers, VW late model clear, amber flash, markers behind the front fenders. A hell-of-bunch of work. I won't do it again. Phil |
Sorry, I should have been more specific.. That's a pic of numero quattro.. same lenses as the 914-8. They're at a different angle and longer than stock 914 lenses, so a direct copy won't work. That side marker light is just an aftermarket add-on. The look of the turn signal lens is what I'm after. I plan to weld up my side marker light holes.
Posted by: CptTripps Apr 7 2005, 05:28 AM
| QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 7 2005, 02:19 AM) | ||
Sorry, I should have been more specific.. That's a pic of numero quattro.. same lenses as the 914-8. They're at a different angle and longer than stock 914 lenses, so a direct copy won't work. That side marker light is just an aftermarket add-on. The look of the turn signal lens is what I'm after. I plan to weld up my side marker light holes. |
I'd thought about taking side-markers from a Saab 9-5/9-3 and using them. It's just a 1" hole, and the light snaps in. comes with the gasket. Available in Clear or Amber. $19 a set.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 7 2005, 08:37 AM
Me loves 924/GT's 
I always though that you could build one up fairly cheap. Imagine this... you can buy a 924 for what, $400 bucks? 
Strip it to a bare tub. Install a roll cage or a bar. A couple of racing seats. Felt line the floor. Make up some RS type panels. Get all the glass parts from GT. Do something ?? to the engine and paint'er up. Polar 50:50 weight distribution. Awesome track car... 
Me no love those headlights on a teener... 
Posted by: KaptKaos Apr 7 2005, 10:55 AM
| QUOTE (914gem @ Apr 6 2005, 08:43 PM) |
| Aluminum trunk skins save a little weight. Use 20ga aluminum with tin so it won't bend at high speeds. Peel your steel skin off, flaten the edges and use for a pattern. The doors can be done the same way, just a lot of work where the door handle and vent window post are. For the door handle use two 2X4 with a c section cut out to match the shape of the handle. clamp the aluminum between the 2X4s and work the shape with hammers and put a lip on it with vise grips. It sounds simple and is after the second or third set. Use 3M metal to metal bonder. While you have the door skin off you can cut the guard rail out. I'll be doing a few sets soon and I'll try to get some pictures of how it's done so you can save weight and a $1000.00 a set. |
Since I plan to use whatever this lightweight turns out to be on public roads, as well as some AX, I do not want to compromise safety. So door reskinning is likely out. But other panels are fair game. Likely FG instead of aluminium or CF.
Posted by: scotty b Apr 7 2005, 06:29 PM
| QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Apr 5 2005, 06:02 AM) |
| Photoshop deal? Those look 100% better than I thought. Very cool. |
I initially thought "it might look "O.K."" but after seeing the phot shop pic I really like it. How about with one more red light on the inside and the orange moved out closer to the corner? Similar to a Ferrarri Daytona 
I would probably be in for a set either style if the price was good.
Posted by: scotty b Apr 9 2005, 02:26 PM
O.K. so I was waiting for some fibreglass to kick and did this, as I had mentioned. 3 pics
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Posted by: scotty b Apr 9 2005, 02:29 PM
They obviously woul;d need to be a bit smaller but I don't think much.
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Posted by: scotty b Apr 9 2005, 02:33 PM
Having done this today, I am about 97% certain that my car will be getting this treatment when I get around to starting on it! Bend a piece of 18ga. to follow the contour and weld in to make it one piece with the body!!! It's done baby This will definitly go with the look I am going for.
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Posted by: retrotech Apr 9 2005, 03:33 PM
What look are you going for?
Posted by: Chris914n6 Apr 9 2005, 04:32 PM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Apr 6 2005, 09:13 AM) | ||
like turbo914.com (or 914turbo.com) used to promise was coming?! seriously, they used to have a "kit" to put lights like you are talking about in... similar to a mitsu 3000GT(later style, with 3 small headlights, not flip up)... which I've long thought about trying to adapt to a 914... they are almost the same size... |
I didn't promise anything... but I did offer a starter kit.
The problem with flush headlights is not enough vertical space. I have yet to see a HEADLIGHT under the DOT legal 90mm. All the rice crap is fog/driving lights, but still, there is only 2-2.5" of space to work in. So unless you want to cut/modify your bumper and forward edge of the bucket or go bugeye, your SOL for good night visability.
I never built a low profile popup cause they'll run about $650-700, no serious interest, and I'm actually very happy with the H-4s already on my car...
Posted by: scotty b Apr 9 2005, 08:14 PM
| QUOTE (retrotech @ Apr 9 2005, 01:33 PM) |
| What look are you going for? |
What a GT should have been! Totally changing the interior, real 911 dash, sport seat type bolsters, carbon fiber trim, 16-17" wheels, cleaned up body lines, "small" stuff that will make a big impact.This will be my second show (and go) car, first one in about 13 years though.
Posted by: Series9 Jul 21 2005, 06:27 PM
I want my lights!
Posted by: jonwatts Jul 21 2005, 08:56 PM
I've never really been fond of the eyebrows on the 914, or the way the headlights look from the front view (kinda droopy).
I'd like to see someone do a better job of extending the headlight cover to fill in the eyebrow than what was done on the Chalon bodykit. They basically just transplanted the eyebrow to the headlight cover which gives the car a kind of surprised look when the lights are up. I think to do it right you need to move the whole headlight forward, more like a BMW 850.
Or maybe do a 928 headlight transplant? The headlights are probably the thing I like best about that car after the engine.
Posted by: redshift Jul 21 2005, 09:24 PM
I was going to put those on my 1.7 teenster that I sold. (911R)
AWESOME!
M
Posted by: Loser_Cruiser Jul 22 2005, 01:15 AM
Can some one build me something like this for my car.
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Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 22 2005, 07:47 AM
| QUOTE (Loser_Cruiser @ Jul 22 2005, 02:15 AM) |
| Can some one build me something like this for my car. |
I had something like that on my old teener, you don't want it... the 914 hood does not slope enough, so you have to cut into the bumper to make it work... mine came like that so I didn't have a choice... but it was horrible.
the thread going right now where Neo914 is making HID lights in the turn signals may work though... I'm hoping it does anyway
Posted by: a.munoz3 Jul 22 2005, 02:03 PM
AHHHH I LIKE THOSE BACK LIGHTS WITH PHOTOSHOP!
Posted by: Carlitos Way Jul 22 2005, 02:12 PM
| QUOTE (nsyr @ Apr 6 2005, 05:39 PM) |
| don't remember where i got the pic, but here ya go |
I think I like those!!!!
Wish I knew how to get 'em.
Posted by: Carlitos Way Jul 22 2005, 02:13 PM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Jul 22 2005, 05:47 AM) | ||
I had something like that on my old teener, you don't want it... the 914 hood does not slope enough, so you have to cut into the bumper to make it work... mine came like that so I didn't have a choice... but it was horrible. the thread going right now where Neo914 is making HID lights in the turn signals may work though... I'm hoping it does anyway |
I think it could work if you just let them be raised a little... even if it spoils the lines, it would add a little character. Somewhat reminiscent of the older acuras IMHO.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 22 2005, 02:17 PM
| QUOTE (Carlitos Way @ Jul 22 2005, 03:13 PM) | ||||
I think it could work if you just let them be raised a little... even if it spoils the lines, it would add a little character. Somewhat reminiscent of the older acuras IMHO. |
I was thinking something more like a 3000GT was where I was going to try and take it... I dunno if it would pass the min. height of a headlight though... it's a lot of work for ???
Posted by: Series9 Jul 22 2005, 02:18 PM
We're talking about these lights.
Mike S said he was going to start making them and I'm trying to get a status report.
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Posted by: flesburg Jul 22 2005, 02:29 PM
How much do you think a two light (on each side) like your photoshop image would weigh. I am going to weigh a stock housing abd lens this weekend.
I like the look.
Posted by: thesey914 Jul 22 2005, 02:30 PM
Can someone fotoshop a view of the whole of the rear so i can see both lights?? I think it might look good........
Posted by: Series9 Jul 23 2005, 02:33 PM
Here you go. Prototypes:
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Posted by: redshift Jul 23 2005, 02:37 PM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Jul 22 2005, 04:17 PM) |
| I was thinking something more like a 3000GT was where I was going to try and take it... I dunno if it would pass the min. height of a headlight though... it's a lot of work for ??? |
We don't see cops with DOT handbooks, and rulers around here.
If they can put a 15" hitch on a truck, that intersects the center of my windshield, I can put my headlights on the back, if I want.
M
Posted by: Series9 Jul 23 2005, 02:38 PM
next:
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Posted by: Series9 Jul 23 2005, 02:39 PM
Last. These are sooooooo going on the RS:
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Posted by: datapace Jul 23 2005, 02:47 PM
Those look amazing!
Where'd you get those housings? Did you fab them yourself? Def show us pics with them on a car.
-bryan
Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 23 2005, 02:51 PM
the quality looks good, but I'll hold my opinion to see them on the car... I have my doubts
Posted by: Series9 Jul 23 2005, 03:06 PM
| QUOTE (datapace @ Jul 23 2005, 01:47 PM) |
| Those look amazing! Where'd you get those housings? Did you fab them yourself? Def show us pics with them on a car. -bryan |
I'm not making them. I'm just pushing the manufacturer to get them into production.
I'm pretty sure I'll get the first set, but I don't have a delivery date yet.
Posted by: Mueller Jul 24 2005, 01:57 PM
Those are going to look nice I think.....now to figure out something for reverse since the white lights are no longer part of the assembly...i guess one could hook up a beeper/horn to go off while in reverse
Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Jul 25 2005, 11:51 AM
Those look very nice but I prefer the original tail lights. The car is square/boxy and the tails flow with it. Round tail lights just don't flow with the car. IMO.
As to the non-pop-up head lights, well, the examples shown so far don't look right to me. I like the idea of pop-up headlights, weight be damned! Maybe if the headlights popped-up 1/2 the distance and used the projector-style headlights? I know with Euro-spec H4's in my previous teener did a great job lighting up the night 
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 25 2005, 11:57 AM
IMO.. .they look a bit "ricey".
Are clear taillights in the offering too? 
Posted by: redshift Jul 25 2005, 01:18 PM
I wanted them then, and I want them now.
M
Posted by: TimT Jul 25 2005, 02:44 PM
Instead of those kinda hard to get Hella lamps, there is LED alternative
http://www.buytruckstuff.com/product.asp?selcategory=2&p_gpID=65
I have these on my 911
Posted by: ArtechnikA Jul 25 2005, 02:46 PM
i'm still undecided for a 914 application.
i can tell you that to pass state inspection in PA, they'll NEED some kind of white backup light (which yes means i'll need two sets, if i want to run the French light assemblies i've been lusting after...)
but i am growing to like the idea more and more for the 911, since it's headed for a "transitional/prototype" kind of feeling...
remind me where i can get the ('71) 911 versions ?
Posted by: Cloudbuster Jul 25 2005, 02:54 PM
http://members.cardomain.com/911r_parts
?
Posted by: tdgray Jul 25 2005, 03:00 PM
Somebody put those on a car...... I can't decide if I like 'em or not. 
Either way I would not buy 'em, but that is not where I am going with my car. Just my .02.
Posted by: Loser_Cruiser Jul 25 2005, 03:02 PM
I like them and want them. Does the manufacture have a website or anything?
Posted by: TimT Jul 25 2005, 03:11 PM
911R parts@ cardomain is one supplier for the 911 stuff.
I got mine from one of Chris Streits buddies on PP, I also think TRE makes them
Posted by: Series9 Jul 25 2005, 03:20 PM
These are being made by the guy who started this thread, Mike_S. He's been making 911R lights for a while and has a following due to the high quality of his products.
The pictures I posted are prototypes of the 914R lights from which he will make master molds. I think I'm getting the first set and I will post pics when I get them.
Posted by: ! Jul 25 2005, 03:22 PM
I have a set on my 911....got them thru TRE.
Posted by: Mueller Jul 25 2005, 03:24 PM
| QUOTE (914RS @ Jul 25 2005, 02:20 PM) |
| The pictures I posted are prototypes of the 914R lights from which he will make master molds. I think I'm getting the first set and I will post pics when I get them. |
oh great...and I'm the one that pointed him to this place
just kidding...still undecided on how they'll fit my master plan
Posted by: Mike_S Jul 25 2005, 09:01 PM
Thanks,
Glad you guys like the lights.
Here's the latest info:
The lights you see are the masters.
I will be making molds and having parts made soon.
The problems right now are that I just moved to Michigan and I'm looking for a fiberglass shop to layup my parts. I don't want to do them in my garage. Now that I have a lot of parts it's not feasible for me to make the parts anymore, otherwise I won't be able to keep creating new parts.
As far as the 911R parts, the ones from Chris Streit, Motomotions, Pelican, TRE, and a few others are my bases. There's one guy that makes LED lights for my bases that are brighter than the Hellas and fit very well.
The Hella lights come in Red, Amber/Red, and Amber/Clear. The clear lights are used for reverse.
Posted by: Series9 Jan 25 2006, 12:14 AM
Any updates on these lights Mike?
I really want a set.
Posted by: msglaigaie Jan 25 2006, 01:08 PM
Yes, put me on the "I want a set" list too. Take your time, we won't rush you(too much). Post a price list(we will pay whatever anyway, thats why we have 914s). They do look nice. Maybe a three light option?? Maybe a black out option for those sinister people?? I am going to print out a copy of the photo to put on the bulliten board in my shop to help my feeble memory. Oh yes did I say they do look nice. Who has to be correct, I am building this pirate ship for me, not Ferry Porsche. MSG L
Posted by: fiid Jan 25 2006, 02:57 PM
These look really slick - I'm in for a set when they come out. Any newz?
Posted by: dlo914 Jan 25 2006, 04:21 PM
here's a PS job to see how they'd look on a car...
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Posted by: ein 6er Jan 25 2006, 06:07 PM
these are not the ones mike is making. i saw these at an HSR race at sebring.
Posted by: ein 6er Jan 25 2006, 06:08 PM
mike's look better.
Posted by: Mike_S Jan 26 2006, 12:20 PM
Allright guys, after years in the making the 914R lights are being made and getting shipped out. The first sets are going to be shipped to route 30 classics and camp 914. They were both generous enough to send me parts to copy and mutilate for the process. I would prefer all inquires be sent to them as they are going to be my main dealers for these things. They will be arriving at the dealers in the next week or 2. I only have 1 mold right now so production will be limited.
Pricing will be up to the dealers, but they should be around the price of the 911 ones, which is approx $300, because it's the same parts different shape.
Thank you for your patience!
Posted by: warrenporsche Jan 26 2006, 04:59 PM
I'll take a set now!! when will they be ready?
Lemmie know at warrenporsche@yahoo.com
Posted by: jetboy Jan 26 2006, 06:25 PM
| QUOTE (nsyr @ Apr 6 2005, 05:39 PM) |
| don't remember where i got the pic, but here ya go |
Wonder where you can get these headlights...
Posted by: scotty b Jan 26 2006, 06:32 PM
| QUOTE (Mike_S @ Jul 25 2005, 07:01 PM) |
| Thanks, Glad you guys like the lights. Here's the latest info: The lights you see are the masters. I will be making molds and having parts made soon. The problems right now are that I just moved to Michigan and I'm looking for a fiberglass shop to layup my parts. I don't want to do them in my garage. Now that I have a lot of parts it's not feasible for me to make the parts anymore, otherwise I won't be able to keep creating new parts. As far as the 911R parts, the ones from Chris Streit, Motomotions, Pelican, TRE, and a few others are my bases. There's one guy that makes LED lights for my bases that are brighter than the Hellas and fit very well. The Hella lights come in Red, Amber/Red, and Amber/Clear. The clear lights are used for reverse. |
Mike is there any way to purchase the lights ONLY? I will be making steel housing to weld and blend into the body. I would also like to know if there is a red/clear or possibly all clear lens. I'm planning on using a 3 light setup and want red, amber and white in some combination. Thanks.
Posted by: boxstr Jan 27 2006, 09:47 AM
Comign Soon to CAMP 914. 914R tailights..
CCLIN914R
Posted by: adam912 Jan 27 2006, 01:55 PM
Hey guys I got a set of Mike's 911R rears from MotoMotions. Let me first say that the quality is FIRST RATE!!! Mike knows what he's doing and takes pride in his work.
As far as the lights, I strongly recommend you go with LEDs. I found a set at my local truck stop that were 6 bucks apiece and look VERY much like the original Hellas. But they are way brighter and draw way less current than the original incandescents. They are made by Maxxima. Here's one linky. http://www.buytruckstuff.com/s_product_gp.asp?selcategory=34
If you search under "LED marker lights" (that's what the truckers know them as) you'll find them all over the web...
They are sealed, never wear out and come with really nifty waterproof connectors. However, they are only one set of elements (thus only on/off), so if you want to do what I did and have one set be bright for brakes and dimmer for running then you need to cobble up a voltage regulator and wire it to hook up to the existing wiring. I would be happy to help you do so or maybe I can make up some kits if anyone is interested. I'm an EE so this might be easier for me to do than someone not so inclined....Email me at areed@hachultra.com if you want more info.
Adam912 Out
'66 912, 475K miles, 2.2L T4 power WOO HOO!!!!
Posted by: Mueller Jan 27 2006, 04:01 PM
| QUOTE (adam912 @ Jan 27 2006, 12:55 PM) |
| Hey guys I got a set of Mike's 911R rears from MotoMotions. Let me first say that the quality is FIRST RATE!!! Mike knows what he's doing and takes pride in his work. As far as the lights, I strongly recommend you go with LEDs. I found a set at my local truck stop that were 6 bucks apiece and look VERY much like the original Hellas. But they are way brighter and draw way less current than the original incandescents. They are made by Maxxima. Here's one linky. http://www.buytruckstuff.com/s_product_gp.asp?selcategory=34 If you search under "LED marker lights" (that's what the truckers know them as) you'll find them all over the web... They are sealed, never wear out and come with really nifty waterproof connectors. However, they are only one set of elements (thus only on/off), so if you want to do what I did and have one set be bright for brakes and dimmer for running then you need to cobble up a voltage regulator and wire it to hook up to the existing wiring. I would be happy to help you do so or maybe I can make up some kits if anyone is interested. I'm an EE so this might be easier for me to do than someone not so inclined....Email me at areed@hachultra.com if you want more info. Adam912 Out '66 912, 475K miles, 2.2L T4 power WOO HOO!!!! |
that's too funny...on my last trip to Southern California, we did our usual "pit" stop at a Pilot gas station/truck stop, upon leaving the rest room, I saw all the big rig LED lights and ended up buying a set to test out....they also sold a square relay for LED lights, it only had 2 terminals instead of the normal relays 4(?) terminals
Posted by: degreeoff Jan 27 2006, 04:34 PM
Any one toyed with the idea of LED's? I was thinking of making a complete rear (one side to the other with "914-6" spelled out where my reflector is now.......
Not a sermen just a thought
Josh
Posted by: degreeoff Jan 27 2006, 04:38 PM
like these.....
http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M37/catalog/218_056.PDF
Posted by: Mueller Jan 27 2006, 04:40 PM
| QUOTE (degreeoff @ Jan 27 2006, 03:34 PM) |
| Any one toyed with the idea of LED's? I was thinking of making a complete rear (one side to the other with "914-6" spelled out where my reflector is now....... Not a sermen just a thought Josh |
LED taillights are already being made by a member that fit into the stock housing (do a search, post a few weeks ago)....LED bulb assemblies that replace the bulbs are already made and can be bought all over the place.........
spelling out 914/6 or whatever with LEDs seems "rice" to me
Posted by: Mike_S Jan 27 2006, 05:30 PM
Yes you can buy the lights seperately.
They come in: Red, Amber, Clear, Amber/Red, and Amber/Clear.
I only stock Red, Amber/Red, and Amber/Clear. The others I would have to order and it takes about a month to get. My supplier only places 1 order a month to Germany.
If you want LEDs, make sure you guys get 3" ones. Their actually marker lights not taillights, that's why their single pole. Taillights are 4", according to Grote it's a minimum square inch veiwing issue. That's why they're no 3" taillights. The Hella ones have been made for over 40 years so I think they're grandfathered in.
There are motorcycle taillights that are small and round like the Hellas but a lot cheaper if you want.
The ones in the picture back a few replies are 356 beehive lights. Those are the same size, so if you have a set lying around you can use those too, but there also single pole.
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