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Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 26 2005, 09:54 AM
Ok!!! So here is the million dollar question!!!! If you had to do it all over again would you convert to a flat-6 or a V-8? What is easier to convert? Seems like the V-8 maybe a little cheaper. However it seems like you have to cut your firewall out… is that also true? (Please note I am no wheres close to it yet but I need a plan!)
What Trans is the best to go with? I was think of a 73-76 side shift 901 with a billet heavy duty intermediate plate from a 70-72?
(this would be built as street car… NO-auto cross….)
Posted by: 914GT Apr 26 2005, 10:05 AM
A Chevy V8 conversion is relatively easy and straightforward for someone who's done it before, and has used a tried-and-true set of conversion parts, whether those have been purchased as a kit from the various suppliers (RH, DH, etc.) or built by the person doing the conversion. But for a first-timer there's a learning curve, which is further complicated if your're experimenting on your own (home-brew radiators, water pumps) or trying to save money. What I'm trying to say here is that once you have a well-performing design, you can improve upon it and/or duplicate it fairly easily. You learn from your mistakes the first time. The V8 cutouts to the firewall are minimal, to clearance the distributor. The smaller distributors do not need as big a cutout as the GM HEI unit. A small cover is built to close the opening.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 26 2005, 10:36 AM
if money was no object... I would go 6 (big 6) or a Raby 4...
I wouldn't put a wasser in my car... that's just me. the Chebbies are hella fast, I'm sure... but I don't want one. if I wanted a SBC, I'd have a camaro... probably on blocks, in front of a trailer... like most of them are 
no, I would love to do a chevelle 396 resto, but a chebbie engine in a 914 is just not what I want.
Posted by: riverman Apr 26 2005, 10:43 AM
| QUOTE (stevenhaas @ Apr 26 2005, 10:54 AM) |
| What Trans is the best to go with? I was think of a 73-76 side shift 901 with a billet heavy duty intermediate plate from a 70-72? |
Sorry, slight hi-jack (still on topic though).
Can you give some details on the heavy duty intermediate plate on the early transmissions? I am doing a V8 conversion and I happen to have a few trans laying around (2 side shifters and one tail shifter). I have read in other places that the weak point of the 901 tranny is the intermediate plate, but I had no idea that the early transmissions had a beefier one.
Does the intermediate plate you're refering to come out of a tail shifter and are they a direct swap?
Posted by: MattR Apr 26 2005, 10:55 AM
Im not sure I wouldnt go with a 4 again, if i could do it all over. I was looking for a driver with good milage, quiet, and simple. Yeah, i ended up spending $3k on doing a 2056 "right" and it wont be some rediculous six or v8, but the 8s ive seen arent very reasonable for a daily driver, which is what my 914 is.
If I had a project/fun car, I'd go six. No questions asked.
Posted by: Kerrys914 Apr 26 2005, 11:06 AM
Who has done BOTH conversions? 
From my reading on this topic the two cars are VERY different. To me is seems like the better bang for the buck is a SBC V8 (install and maintenance).
BUT
the flat 6 has a nice appeal to it and you can never go wrong with a nice SIX in your teener
Either way 
like you stole it 
Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 26 2005, 11:26 AM
| QUOTE |
| I would go 6 (big 6) or a Raby 4... |
My first thoughts where to go with a Raby 4. I just am not sure if 200 hp is enough.. I know that doesnt sound right... "Like what does this guy want???" so ... Here is what I want!
I want to beat a GT Mustang or Vette. I want to be able to do 140 mph if I want. I did email Jake about one his motors asking questions. I just really dont know. I have always had old Z28's with LT1's, 6.6 Trans Am a corvette or 2 along the way. I want the car to be quick and fast. A souped up 4 mayb e alll i need.
Cost is something that is important but if took me another year or so to get the right car togather then I would take the time. The engine cost between Jakes 4 and a flat 6 from Mes... are about the same cost. (240 hp) it is only 3K for a turn key v-8 with 330 hp.... see my delema??? I mean the best thing would be the four.. it is the easiest to do! but I have never been in a 914 with 240 hp nor raced agaisnt one. Dont get me wrong... I am older dude (40 this year!
) and I have no intensions of racing everynight, but I do want to blow away the young punk next to me when I have to!
Posted by: MattR Apr 26 2005, 11:34 AM
If you want a drag car, dont buy a porsche.
Remember, the 901 gearbox isnt designed to handle lots of HP, so you're looking at a 915 tranny to handle the power, which is expensive.
Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 26 2005, 11:52 AM
Again.... I am not nor do I have intension of taking it to the drag strip. I simply want that type of power. If I am at a light and some kid wants to run it, I want to win. Hell my wife is the same way... she drives a big old caddy and wil nail it when the light turns green if some one is trying to push her out. I guess what I am trying to say is I want the same acceleration or close to.... that of a new corvette. I have also have been involved with other folks that have twin turbos and thought nothing about racing light to light. everyone does a little drag racing from time to time. I am building the car for fun.
My understanding on trans is that a 901 would handle 330 hp.
Posted by: nebreitling Apr 26 2005, 12:27 PM
a 901 will handle power depending on how it is applied. if you have a habit of dropping the clutch with the engine reved up in order to beat that 'vette or ricer next to you, it won't be long before you leave a nice pile of parts behind you....
doing what you're talking about (TORQUE!) is gonna take a serious tranny and axles. go for it, but leave the 901 at home.
Posted by: nebreitling Apr 26 2005, 12:30 PM
btw, a 180hp hot 4 will seriously motivate your car, w/out needing to laden it with a radiator or a heavy V8. i doubt it would beat a vette off the line, but you should blow most of the imports away.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 26 2005, 12:41 PM
you probably COULD do 140 in a 200 hp 914, but why? it's a 2000 lb car it doesn't take much to push it, and 200 hp is mor than DOUBLE the stock hp (almost double the hp of a stock 6!) and very light!
there is NO where you can drive any car at 140(legally)... and no where and no time you SHOULD!!
I have been in a car that was doing 145 ONCE... I won't do it again... it was a 87 300zx twin turbo... and that is a scary feeling to go that fast with no helmet and roll cage!
Posted by: ewdysar Apr 26 2005, 12:43 PM
So I've got a V8. If you're gunning for new Corvettes on the street, a SBC is probably the lowest $ solution, though this is not a cheap undertaking. If you want to do it right, once the engine and cooling is in, you've got other things to address, brakes, susp, chassis and more rubber to the ground. Of course, any hp increases of more than 100%, should probably have all of those things considered.
The thing that I did not take into account before my conversion is gas mileage/range. One of Raby's 4's can keep your range around 450+ and I hear that Scott's suby conversion delivered more than 30+ mpg over thousands of miles. I'd keep that in mind if (when) I do it again.
For whatever reason, I consider a Raby 4 with 911 5 lugs as keeping the car stock 
Eric
Posted by: MattR Apr 26 2005, 12:49 PM
Would you really want to do 140 in a 914? Have you done 110? These cars are aero limited.
If you feel comfortable at 140 in a 914, top speed is all gearing. HP just helps you get there faster.
Posted by: MattR Apr 26 2005, 12:52 PM
| QUOTE (stevenhaas @ Apr 26 2005, 09:26 AM) |
| My first thoughts where to go with a Raby 4. I just am not sure if 200 hp is enough.. |
http://www.filebox.vt.edu/users/anbowden/Bluebonic.AVI
~ 200/200 at the wheels.
Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 26 2005, 01:14 PM
well to be honest... no I have never done 140 in a car... (156 on motorcycle ...hehhehehe)
Suspension wise, I have full intension converting the suspension over to a complete 911 front end and doing heavy springs in the back along with big brakes whether I go with a big 4, flat 6 or v-8.
Posted by: anthony Apr 26 2005, 01:20 PM
I think the major flaw in many conversions is the lack of planning for the transmission and gear ratios. With a typical 3.2L six conversion (230hp), ideally you probably want a 915 transmission with a limited slip, and Wevo treatment. If you want to win drag races then some shorter gears would be in order. (This is easily a $8K upgrade.) This is especially true if you are staying with a narrow bodied car and 205 tires.
With a V8 conversion you ideally want to go with the 930 turbo transmission. You probably also have to tweek gears if you want a drag racer since the 930 transmission has a such a tall 1st gear.
Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 26 2005, 01:21 PM
damn, looks pretty quick!!!
Posted by: nebreitling Apr 26 2005, 01:43 PM
i've seen 150 and 160 mph in cars more than a few times 
, and depending on the car, it doesn't have to be a completely puckered experience. however, at 100+, my 914 starts feeling a little twitchy and light. but i think that with the right suspension, chassis, tires, and aero development, a 140mph 914 should be no big deal.
but then maybe it ain't really a street car...
Posted by: lapuwali Apr 26 2005, 01:58 PM
Following up with Anthony's thoughts, the 914 gearbox is very "short". With just 140-150ftlbs of torque, first gear becomes mostly useless, it's so short. My first 914 had a 2.4 911 engine in it, and it would spin the tires in first WITHOUT popping the clutch. Just start slow, roll on the gas, and by half throttle, the tires would just light up. A Big Four or a Six will also tolerate (perhaps even prefer) the high revs at freeway speeds you get with the 914 gearing, but a V8 will not. Most SBCs like to cruise around 1700-2000rpm at freeway speeds, not 3000-3500.
As for how much is "enough", a little math will tell you what you need to know: 2000lbs with 200hp = 10lb/hp. A Z06 Corvette weighs 3200lbs, and makes about 380hp, or 8.5lb/hp. An '05 Mustang GT weighs about 3500lbs, and makes 300hp, or 11.5lb/hp. Thus, a 200hp Big Four will put you squarely between those two. Note that a Six will weigh more than a Four, and a V8 still more. Also factor in chassis stiffening and bigger wheels and tires.
Posted by: Andyrew Apr 26 2005, 03:30 PM
In all honesty, I had a problem of my car having TOO much tq (yes there is a thing)
Basically, I'd hit it at about 2k or anywhere past that and there would be a very powerful jerk, but nothing after that, just a smooth (nonetheless quick..) acceleration.
It was almost undrivable.
Changed the intake manifold and carb, and I have a very VERY drivable car, that hits tq at 3k instead of 2....
I wouldnt to a six now.
Period.
It just feels awesome...
With street tires I was passing some of the 4's with sticky tires at the wcc. (And no, I was staying behind them at the straights...
And some of the 4 cylander cars were coming up behind me on the corners like I was standing still! (Ehem... Drew....)
Most of the 6's had big power and major tire, so they had no problem getting around me.
I was impressed with how little the v8 held back the handling performance of my car.
Andrew
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 26 2005, 05:53 PM
| QUOTE (stevenhaas @ Apr 26 2005, 07:54 AM) |
| Ok!!! So here is the million dollar question!!!! If you had to do it all over again would you convert to a flat-6 or a V-8? What is easier to convert? Seems like the V-8 maybe a little cheaper. However it seems like you have to cut your firewall out… is that also true? (Please note I am no wheres close to it yet but I need a plan!) What Trans is the best to go with? I was think of a 73-76 side shift 901 with a billet heavy duty intermediate plate from a 70-72? (this would be built as street car… NO-auto cross….) |
Steven,
-Define your parameters: max budget vs. time line vs. specifications (what you really must have)
-There are many characteristics to each configuration and alot of bias'
-Take a ride in good examples of each car.
-If you're building it, make sure you are well equipped.
-Consider other priorities
-Go for it!
Posted by: messix Apr 26 2005, 05:53 PM
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If you feel comfortable at 140 in a 914, top speed is all gearing. HP just helps you get there faster.
| QUOTE |
| Would you really want to do 140 in a 914? Have you done 110? These cars are aero limited. |
you have contradicted your self here.
top speed is hp with gearing against drag
Posted by: Thorshammer Apr 26 2005, 06:05 PM
Lets See !?
I would have listened to my father more.
Got better grades in High School
Gone to class in college
Realized the things I did'nt have to compete in society earlier. And if you did, shut up I don't want to know.
Stayed with the passion of my life (mechanics) for my entire life. I'm back in the groove now.
I would have married the same woman
Sent several others packing earlier
Built every 914 I could get my hands on
Built both sixes and fours for different reasons
As well as building a 944 turbo powered 914.
Thats about the what I would've done.
Erik Madsen
Post Script: I would not have bought the racecar I have now. I would have built from scratch. Because it got built from scratch anyway.
Posted by: Rider914 Apr 26 2005, 06:58 PM
I have a 8 and I want a 6 . . . and a 4. Not enough room in the garage.
Take a ride in each and decide what is right for you. I find it funny how the chebbys are almost "ok" now. There was a time when stealing children was better than V8ing a 914.
Posted by: Kerrys914 Apr 26 2005, 07:06 PM
I think whatever you choose take your time and do it right. A well thought out conversion of ANY engine will be a blast to have and drive
Best of luck
Posted by: marks914 Apr 26 2005, 07:13 PM
Id do the V8 thing again in a heatrbeat. It is by far my favorite of all the cars I have ever owned.
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Posted by: Kerrys914 Apr 27 2005, 06:58 AM
I love that car Mark. Very nice!!!!!!!!!
It's screems 914 but have a nice twist
Posted by: BMartin914 Apr 27 2005, 07:17 AM
It all comes down to power to weight ratio. An aircooled six is not going to be as heavy as a SB V8 with a radiator up front. It is also going to be less weight disproportionate. Just beacuse a Mustang or a Vette have more hp, you are going to be lighter - and faster.
If Jake jumps on this thread I am sure he would tell you exactly why his 4s are better that any 6 (I know he has explianed it poit by point in the past, it may be worth it to try and search for that 4 vs. 6 thread).
Posted by: Pompano Beach 914V8 Apr 27 2005, 02:55 PM
I'd do the same thing I did:
V8 the 914, but do it in my own wierd version of "right". I mean, face it, light cars with big mid-engine water-cooled V motors are cars like Ferrari, Porsche Carrera GT etc. not bad company if you do it "right". Unfortunately "right" = $ in a very direct proportion.......crap! It can be done but it costs more money than it's going to be worth......same as a six or a big four or an oil change or an air freshener that hangs from your mirror. If it goes on a car it devalues at roughly the same rate as a falling rock. You just spend the money 'till u bleed, go get some more and do it again ad-infinitem until your "through" and then something breaks..............it's a car.
And buy a used Boxster S to drive for those other days, heck, they're less $s than a half-assed minivan.
The cool thing about all this is that everyone does something different. This allows others to point and laugh.
Posted by: Root_Werks Apr 27 2005, 03:33 PM
| QUOTE (Sammy @ Apr 27 2005, 07:22 AM) |
| The concept that a V8 914 won't handle well is an urban myth. Most guys with V8 914s will tell you the same thing. People who have never driven a V8 914 in anger are the ones who are the ones who usually propagate this myth. |
I don't know about that one. When you place a "V" shaped engine in a car over a flat design, don't you move much of the wieght up? Doesn't your inertia go up? So your 914 would want to lean more, push to the side more?That said, I got to drive CAMP914's Yellow V8 car around and it handles VERY well.
Just a thought.
I like the V8's, almost did one, almost bought one. Glad I stuck with my six projects though. Seem to be a more true to what the 914 was intended to be.
Posted by: Andyrew Apr 27 2005, 03:41 PM
When you put aluminum heads and intake, you remove much of the "top" weight from the v of the engine. Going with an aluminum block would remove even more.
Making it much like a six, almost the same weight I believe.
With more more tq and better weight balance with the radiator up front.
Look at the pictures of my v8 on the track... Compare it to the 4 cylanders...
Which one looked like it leaned more?
Its all fixed with suspension.
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 27 2005, 05:05 PM
Most people building a hot rod (myself included) haven't a clue
what they are gonna do with it when it's "done". It's an end in
it's self....till that day comes. Now what?
Nobody with a lick of sense would do this 
A smart guy would have a plan....I'm using 20-20 hindsight here, you understand.
Me & my shitbox worked this out....it took some time & wasted money was spread about liberaly/foolishly.
I don't care what motor you use nor am I gonna say one is better than the other (tho 4s & 8s sux 
), but I would recommend you have a plan....or "Plan A", at least
Posted by: TonyAKAVW Apr 27 2005, 05:38 PM
There's also the option of doing a non-Porsche flat 4. Namely Subaru engines. A 2.5 liter subaru engine will be very quick and without any modifications get you 170-175 HP. A 2.0 turbocharged (WRX motor) will get you 220-240 and an STI motor (2.0 tubro) will get you 300 HP stock. The STI motors can put out significantly more... All this and the engine weighs 40lbs less than a type 4.
Oh and reliability. One member of this board just drove his subaru conversion out from Maryland and took it on the track, had fun and I believe is driving home now. I got a ride in the car and it is FAST. Don't know about corvette ZO6 fast, but put an STI motor in there and it will be... The STI motors can be had for $4k-$8k from what I have seen. The other motors are much much cheaper.
I realize this is slightly off topic, but its an option worthy of considering.
-Tony
Posted by: Andyrew Apr 27 2005, 05:54 PM
Only problem with the subaru 4 cylanders is they have very little tq, and to get alot out of them, you have to drive them HARD...
Its difficult to drive a turbo car just right... You tend to drive the car off the boost and drive it as a "point and shoot" situation. The 2.5 would be better because it actually has some tq... to pull you through the corner... The turbo takes a second to spool up, and if it spools up to fast, or hits too much boost, it will send you spinning...
Everything has its pro's and con's....
Posted by: Rotary'14 Apr 27 2005, 08:23 PM
Hi Folks,,
I'm new here.
Personally I prefer rotary power motivation,, but I guess you could have guessed that from my user name.
225+ normally aspirated ponies out of 1.3L, 8k conservative red line, less weight than a type IV.
I know it's sacrilage to some that the engine isn't a porsche product, but Dr. Wankle was a german dude.
I prefer to look at my car as a modern day axis aliance,, (now to find something italian).
I would definately do it again, and am doing it! I have a long term rotary project that I just got off my A$$ on again in a 914. Then maybe even a V-8 since I have the radiator already, to feel some monster torque, but that's way down the road.
-Rob
Posted by: Rider914 Apr 27 2005, 10:01 PM
| QUOTE (Rotary'14 @ Apr 27 2005, 06:23 PM) |
| Hi Folks,, I'm new here. Personally I prefer rotary power motivation,, but I guess you could have guessed that from my user name. 225+ normally aspirated ponies out of 1.3L, 8k conservative red line, less weight than a type IV. I know it's sacrilage to some that the engine isn't a porsche product, but Dr. Wankle was a german dude. I prefer to look at my car as a modern day axis aliance,, (now to find something italian). I would definately do it again, and am doing it! I have a long term rotary project that I just got off my A$$ on again in a 914. Then maybe even a V-8 since I have the radiator already, to feel some monster torque, but that's way down the road. -Rob |
Rotary - Welcome - post some pictures and details!
Pompano Beach 914V8 - I am a little north of you, we need to put together a S Fl run!
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 27 2005, 11:41 PM
| QUOTE (Rotary'14 @ Apr 27 2005, 06:23 PM) |
| Hi Folks,, I'm new here. Personally I prefer rotary power motivation,, but I guess you could have guessed that from my user name. 225+ normally aspirated ponies out of 1.3L, 8k conservative red line, less weight than a type IV. I know it's sacrilage to some that the engine isn't a porsche product, but Dr. Wankle was a german dude. I prefer to look at my car as a modern day axis aliance,, (now to find something italian). I would definately do it again, and am doing it! I have a long term rotary project that I just got off my A$$ on again in a 914. Then maybe even a V-8 since I have the radiator already, to feel some monster torque, but that's way down the road. -Rob |
Rob and "Pompano Beach 914V8"
Welcome, you are in good company!
Check my link below for all the different club members conversions...I will add you two to the list.
Posted by: jonwatts Apr 28 2005, 12:04 AM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 27 2005, 03:05 PM) |
| Most people building a hot rod (myself included) haven't a clue what they are gonna do with it when it's "done". It's an end in it's self....till that day comes. Now what? |
Half the time I don't know if I'll even like the car when it's done. It's in charge, I'm just un-paid labor.
Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 28 2005, 12:27 AM
While I typically jump on these posts like a Rabid Wolf I have made it a post not to care any longer!
Its all in what you want and the kind of power you like... Personally I'd love to have a stroked V8 in a 914 but only for straight line driving... Or keep the TIV and do what I did today when I left the corner gas station and spin clear through third gear watching the tire smoke in the rear view and the rev limiter bouncing off 8100 RPM with a MassIVe beast of only 2316cc...
My least favorite conversion engine for a 914 would be the flat six... I mean hell if you are gonna convert you may as well really convert, add a radiator and lay the blade deep into that baby!
The six is an expensive piece that isn't very simple if you ask me.. Hell at least with the V8 you can bolt on a 4 barrell not even tweek the jetting and set the timing by ear and you are done.... and it don't cost 200+ bucks for a damn set of plug wires...
But I'm the asshole driving by 911s with the middle finger high in the air 
while driving a 235HP beetle thats never even been restored- Hell what do I know anyway!!! I do that simply because they all won't even look at a VW and I love to roast their ass and never even use full throttle..
Since my other area of expertise with engines has been with aircraft I have often considered some performance tweeking to a 6 cylinder Lycoming engine and drop that baby into a 914..... Hell if you want displacement the 540 is 540 CI!!!!!!! The engine is lighter than a 911 and its not much more expensive to work with! Imagine smoking past some 911 prick with a 540 inch six cylinder!
On a non professional level I think the 911 engine is way over rated. It may be the jewel of all Porsche engines to many but so many things about it jst don't make sense to me... But yet again I'm the guy that considers a real Porsche engine a 4 cylinder with 4 cams and bevel gears driving them- it's called a 547...Real Carreras have 4 cams.....
I have said it many times, keep the TIV and if you want to convert pput the meanest damn V8 that you can in the bitch... Atleast Chevy's are cheap as hell to build and even an idiot can assemble one and never check a single clearance in most instances.. The only one I have ever built was done 7 years ago and built start to finish in 8 hours- its still alive in the old chevy work truck..
With that being said break out the torch, sawzall, welder and the summit catalog and build that 383 stroker- Or keep the handling and keep the engine that I love...
PS- This is the first conversion post I have ever walked away from wearing a smile- I finally figured that all the rants and preaching do no good at all.... do what you wanna do, hell I'd bolt a Turboshaft in a 914 if it wouldn't melt the paint off the rear trunk lid.
Posted by: Root_Werks Apr 28 2005, 09:50 AM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Apr 27 2005, 10:27 PM) |
| PS- This is the first conversion post I have ever walked away from wearing a smile- I finally figured that all the rants and preaching do no good at all.... do what you wanna do, hell I'd bolt a Turboshaft in a 914 if it wouldn't melt the paint off the rear trunk lid. |
It's all a matter of one's perspective.
Yep, do what you want, everyone is different and it's all good.
Posted by: stevenhaas Apr 28 2005, 10:14 AM
Actually after reading all the replies this post has received, I walked into the garage last night and looked at the car and said to myself “you know, I think you may lose a little charm having a v-8 in you” I really don’t think I have the hart to cut this car all up. If it was from the junk yard it would be one thing but its not…. It’s in pretty decent shape. Granted I will pull the entire car apart to paint it and I will put a 911 suspension under the front but as far the back goes…., as of last night and this morning anyway, I think will have a MASSIVE IV in it. I believe that Mr. Raby can provide me with right mix that I would like to have along with having reliability.
Sorry to get all the 6 and 8 guys fighting but in the mist of it all you guys did aid me in getting a “Plan A”.
Mr. Raby I will contact you when I am a little closer to putting the car back together.
Again thank you for everyone’s input
Posted by: Pompano Beach 914V8 Apr 28 2005, 04:18 PM
| QUOTE |
| Rob and "Pompano Beach 914V8" Welcome, you are in good company! Check my link below for all the different club members conversions... I will add you two to the list. |
Thanks, Quite a list. Glad to be a part of it!
| QUOTE |
| Pompano Beach 914V8 - I am a little north of you, we need to put together a S Fl run! |
I actually get up your way quite a bit. I'll e-mail next time before I go. I'll buy the
I should clarify something about my car. This thing was a total freebie rust-bomb piece of junk. I mean this thing didn't really exist from about halfway throught the longs down to the ground. I mean, truly...if someone slammed the garage door rust would flake off on to the floor of the garage. Mice did not live in this shell, they thought it was unsafe.
If this had been a clean 914 I NEVER would have thought cutting up a pristine......................Who am I kidding? .........................................................
I woulda hogged a big old hole in it and never looked back! I LOVE this thing!
Now this........................
| QUOTE |
| Since my other area of expertise with engines has been with aircraft I have often considered some performance tweeking to a 6 cylinder Lycoming engine and drop that baby into a 914..... Hell if you want displacement the 540 is 540 CI!!!!!!! The engine is lighter than a 911 and its not much more expensive to work with! Imagine smoking past some 911 prick with a 540 inch six cylinder! |
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 28 2005, 06:12 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Apr 27 2005, 10:27 PM) |
| While I typically jump on these posts like a Rabid Wolf I have made it a post not to care any longer! Its all in what you want and the kind of power you like... Personally I'd love to have a stroked V8 in a 914 but only for straight line driving... Or keep the TIV and do what I did today when I left the corner gas station and spin clear through third gear watching the tire smoke in the rear view and the rev limiter bouncing off 8100 RPM with a MassIVe beast of only 2316cc... My least favorite conversion engine for a 914 would be the flat six... I mean hell if you are gonna convert you may as well really convert, add a radiator and lay the blade deep into that baby! The six is an expensive piece that isn't very simple if you ask me.. Hell at least with the V8 you can bolt on a 4 barrell not even tweek the jetting and set the timing by ear and you are done.... and it don't cost 200+ bucks for a damn set of plug wires... But I'm the asshole driving by 911s with the middle finger high in the air :finger: while driving a 235HP beetle thats never even been restored- Hell what do I know anyway!!! I do that simply because they all won't even look at a VW and I love to roast their ass and never even use full throttle.. Since my other area of expertise with engines has been with aircraft I have often considered some performance tweeking to a 6 cylinder Lycoming engine and drop that baby into a 914..... Hell if you want displacement the 540 is 540 CI!!!!!!! The engine is lighter than a 911 and its not much more expensive to work with! Imagine smoking past some 911 prick with a 540 inch six cylinder! On a non professional level I think the 911 engine is way over rated. It may be the jewel of all Porsche engines to many but so many things about it jst don't make sense to me... But yet again I'm the guy that considers a real Porsche engine a 4 cylinder with 4 cams and bevel gears driving them- it's called a 547...Real Carreras have 4 cams..... I have said it many times, keep the TIV and if you want to convert pput the meanest damn V8 that you can in the bitch... Atleast Chevy's are cheap as hell to build and even an idiot can assemble one and never check a single clearance in most instances.. The only one I have ever built was done 7 years ago and built start to finish in 8 hours- its still alive in the old chevy work truck.. With that being said break out the torch, sawzall, welder and the summit catalog and build that 383 stroker- Or keep the handling and keep the engine that I love... PS- This is the first conversion post I have ever walked away from wearing a smile- I finally figured that all the rants and preaching do no good at all.... do what you wanna do, hell I'd bolt a Turboshaft in a 914 if it wouldn't melt the paint off the rear trunk lid. |
After option 2, I'm on to option 3, non-porsche turbo 6...
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