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Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 09:23 AM
Okay let's get the ball moving here. Portland is the official site for the 2006 WCC #3 July 7-8-9.
It is going to piggyback on the Portland Historic races, go here for more information on the historics... http://www.portlandhistorics.com/
I have spoken to the operations manager on thursday, and she is very supportive of our group using the Portland Historics as a piggyback event. She is open to suggestions and will discount group ticket sales.
Hotels are plentiful and close to the racetrack, but we need to get them booked early. Shopping and restaurants are closeby. Indoor go kart track, just up the freeway. Golf course next to the track.
The weather in July will be fabulous, warm and sunny, but not sweltering.
Volunteers will be needed and I will ask for all the help I can get.
So plan on the beautiful Pacific Northwest for the WCC 2006.
CCLINWTFHAVEIDONE
Posted by: Joe Sharp Apr 30 2005, 09:28 AM
Thanks Craig. I'll be glad to help.
Joe
Posted by: ArtechnikA Apr 30 2005, 09:30 AM
sounds great!
are you stepping forward to chair the event (ably assisted by a team of delegates i am sure...) or is that a decision yet to be determined ?
just for planning purposes (i looked on the PCA National site and found nithing...) when is Parade ? we MAY be able to attend one event out there, but two could be iffy...
ArtechnikA will, of course, support the event as a minor sponsor if asked ...
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 30 2005, 09:52 AM
Craig,
What are the track fees? 
Seriously, will there be any type of track participation?
Thanks for assuming the responsibility, I had a feeling you would...
Posted by: lagunero Apr 30 2005, 09:54 AM
way to go Craig! I knew you'd come through!
Posted by: xitspd Apr 30 2005, 09:56 AM
I will support the event with $ and products again as well. Will we be able to get some track time?
Thanks, Dan
Posted by: McMark Apr 30 2005, 09:59 AM
You'll find a lot of helpers here. But three words, delegate, delegate, delegate. 
Tell us what you need done and people will jump all over it.
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 10:11 AM
The only way to get track time would be to rent the track the Monday following the Historics. The expense would be considerable. The last number I heard was 6K.....but I can look into it. The Historics has "parade laps" but I don't think that's what you had in mind
Posted by: Headrage Apr 30 2005, 10:27 AM
Road trip!!!! This is gonna be fun. Get to see both blood and 914 kin folk.
Posted by: lagunero Apr 30 2005, 10:31 AM
| QUOTE (Headrage @ Apr 30 2005, 09:27 AM) |
| Road trip!!!! This is gonna be fun. Get to see both blood and 914 kin folk. |
It will take 2 weeks to get there if Joe is driving his Neverland
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 10:51 AM
This is a little premature, before we start telling everyone we can or cannot get track time. We need to look a little further into our options. JP has stepped up to take that lead and when we have more information it will be posted on the site.
The Portland Historics "will" have an autocross course set up. i will be attending this years races so I can observe first hand the setup and I am sure that alot of the 914 owners in the PNW will also be there to help critique the course.
CCLINWCCPNW2006
Posted by: anthony Apr 30 2005, 10:56 AM
| QUOTE |
| The last number I heard was 6K.....but I can look into it. |
Seems cheap. That's only $80/head for 75 participants.
Posted by: bondo Apr 30 2005, 11:03 AM
Sweet, thanks Craig! More than a year to prepare.. aweseome! Now I can reset my countdown clock! 
432 days left!
Posted by: ThinAir914 Apr 30 2005, 11:06 AM
| QUOTE (anthony @ Apr 30 2005, 09:56 AM) | ||
Seems cheap. That's only $80/head for 75 participants. |
If that figure turns out to be in the ballpark, I'd sure go for track time on Monday.
I'm so excited about this event that I can hardly wait. The only thing bad about it is that because it's the same weekend as the Sisters, OR outdoor quilt show it means that instead of driving my teener to Oregon, I'll be towing it behind our VW Eurovan Camper. I think I can handle it!
Posted by: Rob Ways Apr 30 2005, 11:10 AM
Where is Portland?
Posted by: jonwatts Apr 30 2005, 11:13 AM
That's only 14 months away! I better get working on the car!
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 11:19 AM
| QUOTE (anthony @ Apr 30 2005, 08:56 AM) | ||
Seems cheap. That's only $80/head for 75 participants. |
It's really a pretty gud deal.
The track supplies workers, EM, insurance (we think...my contact says).....subject to availability of the site, of course.
If guys really want the track, there will have to be a committment in advance. Not enuff bodies in advance, no track.
The AX equiptment is OK....been doing some phone calling.
Their AX is a charity event. 5 bucks a run, but we may be able to bundle runs into a package price for the WWC contingent.
Having said all this, there are some issues. I wouldn't have anyone in the group run that clusterfuck they had last year.
It was short and unsafe.....I came slithering around a sweeper to find some guy driving parallel to me bout 10 feet away
I gots some work to do here.
Posted by: bondo Apr 30 2005, 11:21 AM
| QUOTE (Rob Ways @ Apr 30 2005, 10:10 AM) |
| Where is Portland? |
Right here:
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Posted by: bondo Apr 30 2005, 11:23 AM
Just kidding, the one we're talking about is here:
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Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 30 2005, 11:24 AM
jp, did you ever check out, run on, that other (new,newer) track that was south of the portland area? you post regarding it last year.
k
Posted by: Gustl Apr 30 2005, 11:25 AM
| QUOTE (Rob Ways @ Apr 30 2005, 06:10 PM) |
| Where is Portland? |
you may find this funny, but I really have no idea where it is
so, could anybody point it out on a map
I do know some of the big West Coast locations like San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego ...
Posted by: Gustl Apr 30 2005, 11:26 AM
oooops ... sorry, just saw bondo's help 
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 11:27 AM
Wolfgang, think of it like this, Portland is above the rest, when you look at it on the map.
Posted by: Gustl Apr 30 2005, 11:31 AM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Apr 30 2005, 06:27 PM) |
| Wolfgang, think of it like this, Portland is above the rest, when you look at it on the map. |
nah ... in this case I'd find Anchorage
Posted by: xitspd Apr 30 2005, 11:34 AM
| QUOTE (anthony @ Apr 30 2005, 08:56 AM) | ||
Seems cheap. That's only $80/head for 75 participants. |
I like to watch AX, but I like to drive on a RT......
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 11:46 AM
| QUOTE (xitspd @ Apr 30 2005, 09:34 AM) | ||||
I like to watch AX, but I like to drive on a RT...... |
Lotta track guys are like that.......it looks easy....right untill they get their time slips
I've done one track day. My initial reaction was "Damn, look at all this room!" 3 laps and I had PIR wired.....cones at the apex's helped... Weren't even pointer cones, but I figured it out
Posted by: grasshopper Apr 30 2005, 12:05 PM
Portland would be awsome! my dad goes there on business all the time, but i've never been there.
Posted by: xitspd Apr 30 2005, 12:09 PM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 30 2005, 09:46 AM) | ||||||
Lotta track guys are like that.......it looks easy....right untill they get their time slips I've done one track day. My initial reaction was "Damn, look at all this room!" 3 laps and I had PIR wired.....cones at the apex's helped... Weren't even pointer cones, but I figured it out |
It was not my intention to demean AX. I have only done one AX event and that was many years ago. My results were at best mediocre. I have raced at PIR many times and I still have a lot to learn about the track in the heat of door to door competition.
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 12:20 PM
| QUOTE (xitspd @ Apr 30 2005, 10:09 AM) |
| It was not my intention to demean AX. I have only done one AX event and that was many years ago. My results were at best mediocre. I have raced at PIR many times and I still have a lot to learn about the track in the heat of door to door competition. |
I figured that, but I thought I'd give you a hard time anyway
I'm too old & broke to ever take a serious run at track racing.
DEs are like masturbation.....fun but not the real thing
I compete at AX because I can.
Posted by: drgchapman Apr 30 2005, 12:21 PM
Craig, since I was the first to open my mouth to volunteer, sort of, about setting up a Portland meet, I'll volunteer to help, alot. I was waiting to see what dumbass would step up to the plate. Thanks. I'll be a dumbass and help as well.
Posted by: SLITS Apr 30 2005, 12:26 PM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 30 2005, 11:20 AM) |
| DEs are like masturbation.....fun but not the real thing |
Now at least we know why your damn near blind
At this year's "WCC05 DE", we may not have been able to pass at will, but sure could run nose to tail for repeated laps....(
Thanks Sean...that was really enjoyable )
Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 30 2005, 12:44 PM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 30 2005, 08:11 AM) |
| The only way to get track time would be to rent the track the Monday following the Historics. The expense would be considerable. The last number I heard was 6K.....but I can look into it. The Historics has "parade laps" but I don't think that's what you had in mind |
JP,
Actually I would prefer the parade for my concept show car. If I brought the V8 the track would be cool. The problem for people with track cars is hauling all the tools and spares.
If you add the track event on a Monday, I'd suggest you separate the fee(s). I know you want to encourage everyone to stay for the full duration but you may discourage some participants.
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 12:46 PM
| QUOTE (SLITS @ Apr 30 2005, 10:26 AM) | ||
Now at least we know why your damn near blind At this year's "WCC05 DE", we may not have been able to pass at will, but sure could run nose to tail for repeated laps....( Thanks Sean...that was really enjoyable ) |
You were runnin nose to tail with Aaron? I'm glad no one got a pic of that
I *can* see time trails, but DE? Too many folks not looking in their mirrors, not waving by, doing stupid shit...just like on the freeway. AX is a much better way to learn to control your car.
I know lots of guys that I respect who love DE, it's just not for me.....nor is my car set up for it, tho I still have my track tires.
Posted by: Yoei66 Apr 30 2005, 12:56 PM
Cool!
Since I'm a local I'd be happy to volunteer some of my time for this event. 
Posted by: SLITS Apr 30 2005, 01:02 PM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 30 2005, 11:46 AM) | ||||
You were runnin nose to tail with Aaron? I'm glad no one got a pic of that I *can* see time trails, but DE? Too many folks not looking in their mirrors, not waving by, doing stupid shit...just like on the freeway. AX is a much better way to learn to control your car. I know lots of guys that I respect who love DE, it's just not for me.....nor is my car set up for it, tho I still have my track tires. |
JP....At this event, "newbies" were put with instructors, first on a skid pad, then on the track. The idea was to teach them limits of their cars on the pad. The track sessions showed them the racing line....At all times, it was pounded into their heads.."Stay on the line and WATCH your mirrors." There were two passing areas designated and they were told that if a faster car was approaching ('cause they watched their mirrors), to lift, signal the side to pass and let them pass. No one was turned loose until the instructor was satisfied that they fully understood. Yeh, I was an instructor.
The only two infractions I saw were not from the "newbie" groups, but from the purported "real racer" group. Two of them would signal for a left pass on the straight and then pull to the left blocking the pass.
For the remainder of the participants, who understood and followed the "rules", I can only give many KUDOs for a very safe job well done.
EDIT: I almost forgot...The Track workers were awesome and contributed greatly to the safety also.
Posted by: bondo Apr 30 2005, 01:13 PM
Will there be an official hotel and group rate? I was really pleased with the Hampton Inn, is there one of those up there?
(I'm not trying to be pushy, but with all the people saying "book early" I'd like to do so, and I would like to be at the place most others are staying.)
Posted by: Gint Apr 30 2005, 01:32 PM
Kudos to volunteers for steppin up in Portland! I'm in and hope to have my 914 ready and DRIVE it out there. Over a year to go, it should be do-able.
Posted by: xitspd Apr 30 2005, 01:51 PM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 30 2005, 10:20 AM) | ||
I figured that, but I thought I'd give you a hard time anyway I'm too old & broke to ever take a serious run at track racing. DEs are like masturbation.....fun but not the real thing I compete at AX because I can. |
I am getting old too! AX or Track, I look forward to running with you and 
with you in Portland....
Posted by: trekkor Apr 30 2005, 01:55 PM
JP, I'd love to see an A/X on Sat or Sun, open day to watch the historics and the track day on Monday.
That would be amazing and would give all attendees some options.
I have a nice a/x course you might like to see.
Randal has many.
KT
Posted by: dan10101 Apr 30 2005, 02:05 PM
Yes, we got it bad... more track time!! 
Posted by: mpjedi23 Apr 30 2005, 02:07 PM
I think the idea of a split registration would be a very good idea. I did nt make it to 05 because my friend and i did not have the funds to pay the full registration. Guess we could have just showed up!?!
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 30 2005, 02:29 PM
| QUOTE (lagunero @ Apr 30 2005, 09:31 AM) | ||
It will take 2 weeks to get there if Joe is driving his Neverland |
If Joe drives Neverland up, who cares how long it takes.
I'll be right begind him running interference. Cheers, Elliot
Posted by: pete-stevers Apr 30 2005, 02:30 PM
ya hoo for WCC 06
nice and close to home!!
5-6hour drive
Posted by: Howard Apr 30 2005, 02:36 PM
| QUOTE (Elliot Cannon @ Apr 30 2005, 01:29 PM) | ||||
If Joe drives Neverland up, who cares how long it takes. I'll be right begind him running interference. Cheers, Elliot |
Memo to Elliot (call sign Loose) Cannon. You should be just about at retirement then. How many teeners can we fit in that UPS pos you fly? It's not like they'll fire you
Posted by: airsix Apr 30 2005, 02:55 PM
Very excited. Definitely plan to be there. This will be great.
-Ben M.
Posted by: VegasRacer Apr 30 2005, 03:16 PM
I hope the bulk of the holiday travelers decide to celebrate the 4th of July the weekend before. I will do everything in my power to get off work so I don't miss this sure to be great event.
As GWN7 said in another thread - it was the planned meals and parking lot free time to BS and look at cars, that balanced the other activities, and made the WCC05 a success. That is not to say that 'I really hope we can get some track time'.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 30 2005, 03:29 PM
| QUOTE (Howard @ Apr 30 2005, 01:36 PM) | ||||||
Memo to Elliot (call sign Loose) Cannon. You should be just about at retirement then. How many teeners can we fit in that UPS pos you fly? It's not like they'll fire you |
I would love to do something memorable for my last flight but check this out. We had a 767 captain on his last flight do a high speed pass over the runway in Anchorage (300 knots), 60 degree bank turn for the over-head break. UPS fired the co-pilot and the international relief officer. Word was they tried to take the captains retirement but couldn't. Nice huh? I've threatened to fly my last trip NAKED! That should be good for a few laughs.
Cheers, Elliot
Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 30 2005, 03:36 PM
| QUOTE (Elliot Cannon @ Apr 30 2005, 03:29 PM) | ||||||||
I would love to do something memorable for my last flight but check this out. We had a 767 captain on his last flight do a high speed pass over the runway in Anchorage (300 knots), 60 degree bank turn for the over-head break. UPS fired the co-pilot and the international relief officer. Word was they tried to take the captains retirement but couldn't. Nice huh? I've threatened to fly my last trip NAKED! That should be good for a few laughs. Cheers, Elliot |
That would be really "interesting" for the other crew members. And If I were the relief pilot, I would bring some lysol for the seat.
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 06:25 PM
A full out track day on Monday would be good. Although those of you who have traveled a long distance, are going to have to drive that long distance again. The PNW guys can tell you all about this.
I agree the split registration for the Monday track is a very good way to see if we are goin gto be able to make it work or not.
The Portland Histroics autocross should be run on all three days. It should give you plenty of time to get the fix that you need.
One of the things that I kept hearing at this years event was the fact that people could stop and talk and look at the people and the cars. Something that was lacking in the first WCC. I know that the 2006 event will continue this because there are alot of people how haven' attended one of these, that will be joining us from up north.
CCLINWCCPNW2006
Posted by: dekman Apr 30 2005, 06:41 PM
One request: if I have to drive ...14 hours to Portland...could I please have some time on a "real "local race track!(don't care which one). Don't need to be timed ....just enjoy driving the 914 on the "big wide fast track". Please..............................................
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 06:47 PM
We will do what we can Doc. Another thing I would like to throw into the mix is th eidea of a 914 for a raffle. Someone mentioned it earlier in another thread. I will look into that with some of the vendors on the site.
CCLINWCCPDX2006
Posted by: Bleyseng Apr 30 2005, 06:51 PM
Miles has a 914 he would love to raffle off!
Posted by: Eric Taylor Apr 30 2005, 06:55 PM
Sounds great craig! I can't wait to go! Let me know if their is anything I can do to help
Eric
Posted by: drgchapman Apr 30 2005, 08:21 PM
Hey Craig, Pamela and I were thinking Edgefield would be a thought. 114 rooms ranging from suites to hostel accomodations. Brewery, distillery, wine. 30+ acres of land, golf course, places to have group functions, display the cars, etc. Good road run up the mountain, throught the gorge, not too bad to the track. BEER, BEER, BOOZE, WINE, BEER.
Gary
Posted by: red914 Apr 30 2005, 09:27 PM
Craig, you rawk!! thanks to JP also, and any others making this work. i guess i can't sell my teener just yet, eh?
Posted by: Korijo Apr 30 2005, 09:45 PM
yee-haw 
i can help, too! maybe deal with the sponsering division 
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 09:57 PM
I'll do my bestest to get the track for the following Monday. Youz guys do your best to get 75-80 (or more)pre paid bodies there, K?
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 09:58 PM
We now have a protected forum for the 2006 WCC planning. For those of you who are willing to help, please send me a PM and I will see that you are included in the forum.
Please be prepared to help, not to just be a casual observer. We can get enough of those right here. The pay is great and the rewards are plenty. A rust free Porsche 914 is just part of the spoils that will go to those who help. Trips aboard the 914club jet are promised and food and lodging will also be included.
With that said, PM on.
CCLINWCCPDX2006
Posted by: Howard Apr 30 2005, 10:11 PM
| QUOTE (drgchapman @ Apr 30 2005, 07:21 PM) |
| Hey Craig, Pamela and I were thinking Edgefield would be a thought. 114 rooms ranging from suites to hostel accomodations. Brewery, distillery, wine. 30+ acres of land, golf course, places to have group functions, display the cars, etc. Good road run up the mountain, throught the gorge, not too bad to the track. BEER, BEER, BOOZE, WINE, BEER. Gary |
I swear to God I'm a 22. $20 skins?
Posted by: drgchapman Apr 30 2005, 10:13 PM
I wanna sit in the front right seat of the jet. I' m a bonfied volunteer. Pamela and I can help.
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 10:16 PM
Gary and Pam, That is a good idea. If not for the hotel stay, then maybe a run out and back or a pit stop, then on up the gorge.
PM me for P. forum.
Soryy Howard it is a pitch and putt course. But then maybe that is your kind of golf? Don't need a cart.
CCLINPDXWCC2006
Posted by: Jeroen Apr 30 2005, 10:19 PM
g-darn... what's wrong with you guys... this year it's april, now it's july for next years...
why not may or june 
oh well... they're just gonna have to do with out me at the office
We're not gonna miss another one...
Posted by: ThinAir914 Apr 30 2005, 10:24 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Apr 30 2005, 05:47 PM) |
| Another thing I would like to throw into the mix is th eidea of a 914 for a raffle. |
Take a look at Arizona Bus Club to get an idea of what another car club does. If you look at the Jerome 2004 Bus you'll get an idea of what the club put into the vehicle to get it ready for the raffle. In the early years the busses that were raffled were much rougher and not restored much, if at all, but it's become more sophisticated over time.
http://www.arizonabusclub.com/home/default.aspx
Posted by: ThinAir914 Apr 30 2005, 10:26 PM
| QUOTE (Jeroen @ Apr 30 2005, 09:19 PM) |
| oh well... they're just gonna have to do with out me at the office We're not gonna miss another one... |
You aren't alone - I'm trying to figure out how to also make the family reunion in Michigan that I promised I'd attend. WCC2006 is far more exciting! I'm not gonna miss another one...
Posted by: boxstr Apr 30 2005, 10:31 PM
Ernie thanks that is a great site to get ideas. Very much what I would like to accomplish. I think something a little more done and with a lot of goodies.
CCLINWCCPDX2006
Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2005, 10:32 PM
Ah, gud, the international jet set checks in.
That's Portland, not Poland....go to France & hang a right, pass 2 coastlines & just before the next one hang another right. Go till ya hit a big river....not one of them candy assed Califorina creeks either.....a BIG mo fo....Rhinesized. Land.
Posted by: ThinAir914 Apr 30 2005, 10:51 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Apr 30 2005, 09:31 PM) |
| Ernie thanks that is a great site to get ideas. Very much what I would like to accomplish. I think something a little more done and with a lot of goodies. |
The raffle bus is quite a production - not only in getting the vehicle ready, but the whole raffle itself.
It is the concluding event of each year's Jerome Jamboree. You have to be present to win. Everyone gathers around the bus and they read off the first 3 of 6 numbers. If you match those, you step up and put your hand on the bus. As they read each of the succeeding numbers, folks walk away if they don't have a match, until hopefully there is just one person left. If they don't get a match on all numbers, the process starts over again.
Last year's winner was the last person at the bus with 1 number left, but didn't match. They drew again and she ended up being the last person again - only this time the last number matched!
After the drawing, it's a tradition that all the "losers" toss their tickets into the bus to give the winner some "fun" with having to clean out the bus!
Posted by: Bleyseng May 1 2005, 09:07 AM
Hey July is good, the kids all over are out of school so no excuses this time Jeroen.
Posted by: Howard May 1 2005, 10:10 AM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Apr 30 2005, 09:16 PM) |
| Sorry Howard it is a pitch and putt course. But then maybe that is your kind of golf? Don't need a cart. CCLINPDXWCC2006 |
Pitch and putt is like AX to Track. Like 'em both. Since you're so much younger, give me 3 a side?
Posted by: scott thacher May 1 2005, 10:15 AM
i will be brutaly honest here. personally i dont think portland will do near as well as an event in california, due to several reasons... one there are people who would not drive there 914 3 hours to the wcc 05 let alone 10 or so. lets face it most 914s are in california. also portland does not have a big ticket item like vegas near by as an additional draw.
portland might be nice but you dont ever hear about portland like you do california, with mulhuland ( sp ) drive the PCH, vegas 2 hours hours away, LA to see for the first time etc.
now teri and i had a blast going the wcc but we had many things to make it better, like family to see while traveling both ways, crashing at joe's house ( both sharp and 914rs, thanks to both of ya ) getting the stand on the famous sklines drive way and vegas for the first time. for me to drive to portland is just 4 days of driving with stops at hotels. granted i might be able to stop at a few members houses but it does not have the big draws for me.
i think the worse thing to do for some thing like the wcc is to put it at any corner of the US, it just make it a longer drive for more people... and some of those wont go because of it. i would think putting the wcc in SD would be just as bad as portland. lets face it the best place is in the center of any coast not the top or the bottom.
sorry about this post but i just dont think it would be near as many people, and all the extras i got to do with the wcc 05 are not there so i would bet for others it will be the same
Posted by: boxstr May 1 2005, 10:21 AM
Howard, if you come up here for the WCC 2006 I will pay your greens fee and we will play the big guys course. I would like this to be the first year for a WCC golf tournament.
Scott, I guess we won't be seeing you and your lovely new bride in Portland in 2006??
CCLINWCCPDX2006
Posted by: TurtleGirl May 1 2005, 10:26 AM
| QUOTE (drgchapman @ Apr 30 2005, 08:21 PM) |
| Hey Craig, Pamela and I were thinking Edgefield would be a thought. 114 rooms ranging from suites to hostel accomodations. Brewery, distillery, wine. 30+ acres of land, golf course, places to have group functions, display the cars, etc. Good road run up the mountain, throught the gorge, not too bad to the track. BEER, BEER, BOOZE, WINE, BEER. Gary |
Nico and I stayed at McMenamins Edgefield in February. The complex is great, off the beaten path, and secure... if parking lots are issues for you. They have their own winery, distillery, brewery, several restaurants, cinema draft-house, massage... And it's really affordable, as well. My $.02, this would really be a place to look into.
Liz
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 1 2005, 10:36 AM
| QUOTE (scott thacher @ May 1 2005, 11:15 AM) |
| i will be brutaly honest here. personally i dont think portland will do near as well as an event in california... |
where is it written that each year's event MUST have a bigger draw than the one before to be "successful" ?
| QUOTE |
| ...most 914s are in california |
sorry, that's just not true. there are many 914's in California but "most" are in the whole rest of the world. i for one don't think that those people should be excluded from a local event now and then. it is similarly not written that everyone must attend every event every year. sometimes it'll be worth making The Big Trip to a special venue, and sometimes it's nice having one in your (figurative) back yard.
| QUOTE |
| portland does not have a big ticket item like vegas near by as an additional draw. |
you can go to Las Vegas any time - that stuff is always there...
| QUOTE |
| you dont ever hear about portland like you do california |
i've been to both; i consider that a good thing...
| QUOTE |
| i think the worse thing to do for some thing like the wcc is to put it at any corner of the US, it just make it a longer drive for more people... |
and it makes it a much shorter drive for some others...
| QUOTE |
| lets face it the best place is in the center of any coast not the top or the bottom. |
i just don't agree. lots of events fail when they are placed so as to be equally inconvenient to all...
| QUOTE |
| ...i just dont think it would be near as many people |
they will have cycles. this year's event -- and the ones in 2000, 2002, and 2004, DIDN'T have much participation from the Pacific NorthWest. give them a chance to host a local event. some people won't come from far away, and i don't think any WCC planner is seriously anticipating a big inrush of people fro anywhere on the Atlantic coast. give 'em a shot. this whole process is very new. if it sucks, we'll think seriously about doing it again. i think they're going to put on a great event, and i'm much more excited about the Portland area than i was about this year's venue (i lived in SoCal for 30 years, it's a nice place to be from...)
are you coming to this year's East Coast Ramble in VT ?
Posted by: rhodyguy May 1 2005, 10:39 AM
the draw is the draw scott. some people have driven 17 hours and some for longer periods . it's simple, they show or they don't. pnw owners have driven it out twice to cal. if folks can't plan 14 months out 
, feel their cars are untrustworthy, or if it's just too far, they can look at the pictures. i take it you have never been to our region. with canadian contingent, and the 30 odd members in the puget sound area, getting people to portland is not an issue.
k
Posted by: ! May 1 2005, 10:49 AM
For me....doable....if they let me over the border... 
But 14 hours is based on 70 mph avarage...towing a car...figure another 3-4 hours for slower speeds and pee stops...double that if I have the kids....
1: Start out going SOUTHEAST on ANACAPA ST toward E ORTEGA ST. 0.2 miles Map
2: Turn LEFT onto E HALEY ST. 0.1 miles Map
3: Turn RIGHT onto GARDEN ST. 0.1 miles Map
4: Merge onto US-101 N. 287.5 miles Map
5: Merge onto I-680 N toward SACRAMENTO (Portions toll). 71.3 miles Map
6: Merge onto I-80 E toward SACRAMENTO. 15.1 miles Map
7: Merge onto I-505 N toward WINTERS/REDDING. 34.3 miles Map
8: I-505 N becomes I-5 N. 543.7 miles Map
9: Take the I-405 exit- EXIT 299B- on the LEFT toward CITY CENTER/US-26 W/BEAVERTON. 0.2 miles Map
10: Take EXIT 1A on the LEFT toward NAITO PKWY./JAPANESE-AMERICAN HIST. PLAZA. 0.1 miles Map
11: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto SW HARBOR DR. 0.5 miles Map
12: Turn RIGHT onto SW FRONT AVE/SW NAITO PKWY. 0.6 miles Map
13: Turn LEFT onto SW ASH ST. 0.2 miles Map
14: Turn RIGHT onto SW 4TH AVE. <0.1 miles Map
15: Turn LEFT onto NW COUCH ST. <0.1 miles Map
16: End at Portland, OR US Map
Total Est. Time: 14 hours, 48 minutes Total Est. Distance: 954.77 miles
Posted by: bondo May 1 2005, 11:08 AM
| QUOTE ("Z" @ May 1 2005, 09:49 AM) |
| For me....doable....if they let me over the border... But 14 hours is based on 70 mph avarage...towing a car...figure another 3-4 hours for slower speeds and pee stops...double that if I have the kids.... |
You can save a toll and traffic if you cut over to 5 at 46 to 41 (Paso Robles to Kettleman City). 5 moves much faster of course, but man is it boring!
Posted by: rhodyguy May 1 2005, 11:10 AM
mike, why beat yourself up? first day to Weed or Yreka. early departure the next day will put you in Portland early in the afternoon and you will be fresh as a daisy. well, at least fresh. 101 may not be the fastest for you. it might seem like back tracking, but down to 126 and jet over to I-5 might shave quite a bit of time. but i'm a worshingtonian, what do i know.
k
Posted by: bernbomb914 May 1 2005, 11:13 AM
I will be there
Bernie 
Posted by: spare time toys May 1 2005, 11:13 AM
Its 2131 miles from DFW I figure if I take the best line on all the corners I can shave it down to 2130 miles 
Just need two things to happen 1 Get the car done, 2 Something other than the Suburban for a tow car Now that I think of it this is a cake walk. Mom, Dad, and I did 2800 miles in 2.5 days driving to Costa Mesa and back to get the 928 and we took in the AX in San Bernideno while we were at it. 
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 1 2005, 11:18 AM
| QUOTE (bondo @ May 1 2005, 12:08 PM) |
| 5 moves much faster of course, but man is it boring! |
you want boring?
NEBRASKA is boring !
(2863,7 mi 5 da 4 hr 43 min)
although i expect i might travel a bit quicker than that in the 911...
Posted by: xitspd May 1 2005, 11:22 AM
1: Start out going SOUTHEAST on DENIZEN HEIGHTS RD toward VALLE HEIGHTS RD. 0.1 miles Map
2: Turn LEFT onto VALLE HEIGHTS RD. 0.1 miles Map
3: Turn LEFT onto MARSHALL AVE. 0.4 miles Map
4: Turn LEFT onto CA-74/FLORIDA AVE. 2.2 miles Map
5: Turn RIGHT onto RAMONA EXPY. 1.2 miles Map
6: RAMONA EXPY becomes MOUNTAIN AVE. 1.9 miles Map
7: Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto N RAMONA EXPY. 5.3 miles Map
8: Turn RIGHT onto N SANDERSON AVE/CA-79. 1.1 miles Map
9: Take the GILMAN SPRINGS RD ramp. 0.3 miles Map
10: Turn LEFT onto GILMAN SPRINGS RD. 9.7 miles Map
11: Merge onto CA-60 W. 37.5 miles Map
12: Merge onto CA-71 N toward POMONA. 5.3 miles Map
13: Merge onto CA-57 N. 3.2 miles Map
14: Merge onto I-210 W via the exit on the LEFT toward PASADENA. 44.4 miles Map
15: Take the I-5 N/GOLDEN STATE FWY exit on the LEFT toward SACRAMENTO. 0.5 miles Map
16: Take the AUTOS exit on the LEFT. 0.2 miles Map
17: Merge onto I-5 N. 925.5 miles Map
18: Merge onto I-205 N/VETERANS MEMORIAL HWY via EXIT 288 toward I-84/THE DALLES/SEATTLE. 21.9 miles Map
19: Merge onto I-84 E/US-30 E via EXIT 22 toward THE DALLES/MT. HOOD/COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE. 6.9 miles Map
20: Take the 238TH DR. exit- EXIT 16- toward WOOD VILLAGE. 0.2 miles Map
21: Turn RIGHT onto NE 238TH DR. 0.2 miles Map
22: Turn LEFT onto BIRCH AVE. 0.1 miles Map
23: Turn RIGHT onto NE HALSEY ST. 0.4 miles Map
24: End at Troutdale, OR 97060-1026, US Map
Total Est. Time: 16 hours, 14 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1069.85 miles
I'm in with wife, transporter and (914-6 this time)
Posted by: FriarJohn May 1 2005, 11:46 AM
I think I might actually be able to make it to this one. Of course I'll probably be on my scoot. I doubt I'll have either of my 914s running by then...
Posted by: markb May 1 2005, 11:59 AM
Marcie & I are in!
I've got lots of time to get the Blue car painted. If I can convince the Cap'n to let me move Dad's Car to the shop, I can probably have it real close by WCC06.
Less people would not really be a bad thing. I barely got a chance to meet a fraction of the folks at WCC05 (would have met more, but we didn't find our way to Neverland). I'm quite looking forward to getting out of CA and seeing some other part of the US. I have complete faith in Craig & Company to give us a memorable event.
Wow, can you imagine the caravan we could have moving north across the border.
Posted by: anthony May 1 2005, 12:18 PM
There's also no reason that you need to bring a 914 to a WCC. I always see cheap flights to Portland on Southwest.
If it's too far to drive, then fly, rent a car, hang out with the people and have fun. You can drive your 914 anytime.
Posted by: spare time toys May 1 2005, 12:34 PM
| QUOTE (anthony @ May 1 2005, 01:18 PM) |
| There's also no reason that you need to bring a 914 to a WCC. I always see cheap flights to Portland on Southwest. |
Great idea support my company
I want to have Ricks and My cars in the same place one time when done. What better venue could there be?
Posted by: JohnnyX May 1 2005, 05:11 PM
I've brought the idea up to another forum member already about the possibility of getting a SoCal group transport up to Portland and then just flying in on Southwest. The rig could start picking cars up in San Diego and work its way up to LA or even further up CA if enough people were interested. Yes it would cost and no I don't know how much or even if it is budget feasible-- it is just an idea at this point. Think about it-- the time involved driving, possible mishaps, backaches from driving a stiff performance car 1000+ miles, etc... , you could drive the hell out of the car in Portland on the ax, track etc... and not have to worry that it is still running well enough to get you home! Just need someone to pick us up at the airport and a place to deliver the cars. Just an idea. It might make be a sensible option to those who have a few extra nickles. I stopped tracking early at WCC05 to make sure I had enough car to make it the 3-400 miles home (gotta get some temp guages!). That said a 914 caravan up North from CA would be a heck of alot of fun, too! An adventure in itself. Just brainstorming. John
Posted by: rick 918-S May 1 2005, 06:55 PM
Bruce (GWN7) and I discussed meeting up in Canada shipping our cars out by train early and flying in. Sandy said the July date is better. Lookes like were in again........
Posted by: dan10101 May 1 2005, 06:58 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ May 1 2005, 08:21 AM) |
| Howard, if you come up here for the WCC 2006 I will pay your greens fee and we will play the big guys course. I would like this to be the first year for a WCC golf tournament. |
Is this an invitation only tournament?
Posted by: ! May 1 2005, 07:00 PM
Do we have to wear ugly polyester pants?
Posted by: mike_the_man May 1 2005, 08:04 PM
The Canadian's are in! Well, me for sure. If it's in Portland, we may even show up in 914s. Dan's car made it from Camp914 to Regina succesfully, so I'm sure we can make it back. I wonder if we can fit kegs in the trunks and have enough room left for clothes. Ah well, beer is more important. I think Portland will be a great area. We spent a bit of time on the way down, and I was more impressed with the Portland area than California. I may have to come down a few days early and do some windsurfing at the Gorge. I'm so excited!
Posted by: itsa914 May 1 2005, 08:10 PM
For me the date of the last two WCC was the problem, now with a July date for 2006 this could be doable we could drive, umm 2147 miles with, at that time 4yrold, while trying to pull my 914 behind the truck 
Then again we could fly out
Start out going WEST on CENTRAL AVE toward VIVIAN ST. 0.3 miles
2: Turn RIGHT onto WILLOWCREEK RD. 0.5 miles
3: Merge onto I-80 W (Portions toll). 1374.6 miles
4: Merge onto I-84 W via EXIT 168 toward OGDEN. 770.3 miles
5: Take the I-5 S exit on the LEFT toward SALEM/BEAVERTON. 0.3 miles
6: Take the exit toward CITY CENTER/MORRISON ST.. 0.3 miles
7: Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto MORRISON BRIDGE. 0.2 miles
8: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto ramp. <0.1 miles
9: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto SW WASHINGTON ST. 0.1 miles
10: Turn RIGHT onto SW 4TH AVE. 0.2 miles
11: Turn LEFT onto NW COUCH ST. <0.1 miles
12: End at Portland, OR US
Total Est. Time: 31 hours, 48 minutes Total Est. Distance: 2147.39 miles
Posted by: Bruce Allert May 1 2005, 08:15 PM
| QUOTE (dan10101 @ May 1 2005, 05:58 PM) | ||
|
a golf tourney would be fun
Craig, where's the Big Guys Course...? The Three Nines Resort on the Mountain???
........b
Posted by: mike_the_man May 1 2005, 08:30 PM
Golf would be sweet. If I'm bringing golf clubs and a keg in the 914, all I'm gonna be able to pack is thongs. I hope it's warm!
Posted by: carreraguy May 1 2005, 08:38 PM
Count me in for Portland! May end up going more than once if I go to Parade too!
Anyone considered one or more WCC06 914 "tech sessions" regarding a topic of common interest? That's something I would attend for sure - not much of a golfer; I had to give it up years ago for mental health reasons.
Posted by: drew365 May 1 2005, 08:50 PM
| QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 30 2005, 07:57 PM) |
| I'll do my bestest to get the track for the following Monday. Youz guys do your best to get 75-80 (or more)pre paid bodies there, K? |
IMHO; if you separate the track fee you won't get 80 cars unless you have a bigger showing than we did. We were supposed to have 75 and I thought it would drift up to 80. We had 65 914clubbers plus 5 invited POC instructors show up. I think a lot of the guys went to the track because it wasn't costing anything extra and were glad they went, but if they had the choice ahead of time to not go and save some money then CSOBitis would have prevailed. .02c, adjust for inflation.
Posted by: boxstr May 1 2005, 08:58 PM
Blue Heron golf course is next to PIR, open to all 914 attendees.
CCLINWCCPDX2006
Posted by: Aaron Cox May 1 2005, 08:59 PM
only a 15 hour drive from here
Posted by: Carl May 1 2005, 09:07 PM
There are always tradeoffs in one venue or another. I think the PNW people showed great support for the two events held in California. Now is the time to return the favor and I'm really looking forward to it.
Being a frequent visitor to the state (in-laws live in Salem) Portland will be blast. Craig and his enthusiastic crew will put on a great event. Be prepared for spectacular scenery and a fun event.
I think Mer and I'll head up the coast. That's 914 roads all the way.
Posted by: neo914-6 May 1 2005, 09:43 PM
| QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ May 1 2005, 08:36 AM) | ||
sorry, that's just not true. there are many 914's in California but "most" are in the whole rest of the world. i for one don't think that those people should be excluded from a local event now and then. |
Most of the "active" 914 owners...
There were 5 914's from PNW/CAN and 12 from the SFBA on our caravan.
I agree with Scott and don't understand why Art is rebutting, but I believe the draw is existing and new friendships. It doesn't have to be fair, more 914's, or better location. We use the common thread as an excuse to enjoy others unique experience of the car. I'll go to Portland just to hang out with Craig, Kevin, Jim, and the OR guys...hope to see all the characters and "regular" members...from the last WCCs.
Posted by: double-a May 1 2005, 10:55 PM
being about five minutes from portland, i'm in. i can help with stuff as needed, though i'm not sure what i could do.
~a
Posted by: dgw May 1 2005, 11:09 PM
| QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ May 1 2005, 09:18 AM) | ||
you want boring? NEBRASKA is boring ! (2863,7 mi 5 da 4 hr 43 min) although i expect i might travel a bit quicker than that in the 911... |
Hey, I've done both multiple times!
5 is more boring than Nebraska, but a lot faster trip.
Posted by: ThinAir914 May 2 2005, 12:24 AM
| QUOTE (rick 918-S @ May 1 2005, 05:55 PM) |
| Sandy said the July date is better. Lookes like were in again........ |
Cool, Rick! You'll get to see my '73 for real instead of just hearing about it over lunch. Linda & I are definitely in for 2006.
Posted by: LuckieO May 2 2005, 12:50 AM
Joe (O'Brien) and I are in. We were thinking of taking a two week road trip and making some fun stops along the way. Maybe we will head to So Cal first to make sure that Joe Sharp is in attendance, like it or not. Hopefully, we will be traveling in three 914's this time (instead of one). I do not think that I can watch another day at the track without a car to drive...thanks Leo for the offer, you rock! I hope to see all of you there. We had a blast this year and made some really great friends!
Luck
Posted by: ablose58 May 2 2005, 01:27 AM
After all it 's not where we have wcc2006, it's all about the cars and the people and the common interests and getting there is half the fun the pacnw contingent made the wcc2005 somewhere to the tune of around 3000+miles, you will see some very spectactular scenery . Given the choice I would do it all over again
Posted by: xitspd May 2 2005, 07:31 AM
| QUOTE (LuckieO @ May 1 2005, 10:50 PM) |
| Joe (O'Brien) and I are in. We were thinking of taking a two week road trip and making some fun stops along the way. Maybe we will head to So Cal first to make sure that Joe Sharp is in attendance, like it or not. Hopefully, we will be traveling in three 914's this time (instead of one). I do not think that I can watch another day at the track without a car to drive...thanks Leo for the offer, you rock! I hope to see all of you there. We had a blast this year and made some really great friends! Luck |
Very cool! Make it to SoCal and we will hook up with your freight train to Portland. We can all follow the Neverland express.
It was nice meeting you Luckie....
Posted by: Yoei66 May 2 2005, 11:20 AM
| QUOTE (mike_the_man @ May 1 2005, 06:30 PM) |
| Golf would be sweet. If I'm bringing golf clubs and a keg in the 914, all I'm gonna be able to pack is thongs. I hope it's warm! |
Would this be a keg of canadian beer, or homebrew beer?
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 2 2005, 11:24 AM
| QUOTE (mike_the_man @ May 1 2005, 09:30 PM) |
| ...all I'm gonna be able to pack is thongs. |
izzat footwear or swimwear?
i need to decide if i'm going to be anticipatorily grossed-out ...
i haven't hit a golf ball since 2001...
Posted by: Dan_F May 2 2005, 12:02 PM
Mark another Canadian on the list.
Way to go Craig! This will cut our drive in half. It will be alot more "bearable" to drive a 914 through the mountains than sitting in the Audi.
Posted by: AZ914 May 2 2005, 12:27 PM
From the eastside of Tucson to PDX:
Distance: 1462.8 miles
Approximate Travel Time: 22 hours 30 mins
Caravan anyone?
Posted by: merrill May 2 2005, 01:03 PM
I am all over this one! If any one wants to meet in Truckee and cruise the cool and winding roads North jsut let me know. I used to drive a demo van for snowboards and would always take the back way. So much better.
Posted by: Travis Neff May 2 2005, 01:07 PM
| QUOTE (AZ914 @ May 2 2005, 10:27 AM) |
| From the eastside of Tucson to PDX: Distance: 1462.8 miles Approximate Travel Time: 22 hours 30 mins Caravan anyone? |
I'm game..
Posted by: MarkG May 2 2005, 01:08 PM
Portland is a nice area, I will sure try to make it in my 914 (provided I don't get snowed in.....but July SHOULD be o.k.)!
Posted by: AZ914 May 2 2005, 03:18 PM
This has me thinking about a nice long road trip.. never been to Yosemite.. Stop in Tahoe in the summer would be nice
Posted by: Travis Neff May 2 2005, 03:24 PM
I'm afraid if I go up, I won't come home. Portland is a 2nd home to me.
Posted by: Chris914n6 May 2 2005, 05:03 PM
Summer'06 will be my big break between campusses. I'm thinking like Joe(914rs)... make the trip 2 weeks long and hit some sites, like redwoods in Norcal and Crater Lake. I've got relatives in Seatle that I might go see... I'd better give por15 a call
Anyone got website work needing to be done? 
even-stevens... '02 '04 '06.
Posted by: rhodyguy May 2 2005, 05:10 PM
if you plan on taking some time, do ave of the giants to eureka, the coast to cresent city, c.s. to grants pass, g.p. to crater lake. come up the eastside of the cascades to mt hood and on to pland. fun drive.
k
Posted by: mike_the_man May 2 2005, 05:20 PM
| QUOTE (Yoei66 @ May 2 2005, 09:20 AM) | ||
Would this be a keg of canadian beer, or homebrew beer? |
Maybe some microbrew. We'll have to see what we can fit in a couple of 914s.
As for the thongs, it'll be both foot wear and swim wear. If I'm bringing a weekends worth of beer, and golf clubs, there ain't gonna be no room for clothes! I sure hope its warm out!
Posted by: rhodyguy May 2 2005, 05:31 PM
you guys will be coming down just for the BIG BEAR BURGER!! "the only person i've seen take a sandwich like that is my mother". "can i have a spoon for the gravy?". even markdmarc would have trouble with one of those.
k
Posted by: BMartin914 May 2 2005, 07:11 PM
| QUOTE (MarkG @ May 2 2005, 11:08 AM) |
| (provided I don't get snowed in.....but July SHOULD be o.k.)! |
I thought you were leaving this 'godforsaken place' Mark.
I love the PNW. Hopefully I can make it next year.
Posted by: ThinAir914 May 2 2005, 08:11 PM
| QUOTE (Travis Neff @ May 2 2005, 02:24 PM) |
| I'm afraid if I go up, I won't come home. |
Take the chance! We need as large a group from AZ as possible!
Every time I go to PNW, I almost don't come back - I particularly like Oregon: They have Dutch Brothers Coffee!
Posted by: ThinAir914 May 2 2005, 08:13 PM
| QUOTE (AZ914 @ May 2 2005, 02:18 PM) |
| Stop in Tahoe in the summer would be nice |
I'm sure Linda & I will stop at Tahoe. I love Tahoe, but it will be particularly great to take the 914 around the lake and leave the VW camper at the campsite.
Posted by: mike_the_man May 2 2005, 08:19 PM
| QUOTE (rhodyguy @ May 2 2005, 03:31 PM) |
| you guys will be coming down just for the BIG BEAR BURGER!! "the only person i've seen take a sandwich like that is my mother". "can i have a spoon for the gravy?". even markdmarc would have trouble with one of those. k |
Ahhh, the Big Bear Burger. We saw another one on the way home and had to restrain Dan. He seems to be in love with them. Not a healthy realtionship at all!
Posted by: boxstr May 2 2005, 10:38 PM
All of those people driving up through Calif, be sure and stop in Willows at the Black Bear Restaurant.
You will find the drive much more bearable after the Big Bear Burger and a piece of Bearry Pie.
Or if you are there for dinner the "Cluck and Buck", my favorite.
If you miss the one in Willows you have a second chance at the one in Grants Pass, Oregon.
CCLINBEARYBEARYBADBOY
Posted by: VegasRacer May 2 2005, 10:58 PM
| QUOTE (LuckieO @ May 1 2005, 10:50 PM) |
| We were thinking of taking a two week road trip and making some fun stops along the way. |
I haven't missed a WCC yet, and I sure don't plan on starting now.
Go up on the PCH and come back thru Tahoe? With lots of zig-zags in between.
Posted by: redshift May 2 2005, 11:04 PM
Is Portland closer to me, than Vegas?
hah
M
Posted by: Bruce Allert May 2 2005, 11:20 PM
| QUOTE (redshift @ May 2 2005, 10:04 PM) |
| Is Portland closer to me, than Vegas? hah M |
Figuring on trajectory and being compromised with the angle of the dangle it's only closer if done via the round trip situation
........b
Posted by: Root_Werks May 3 2005, 08:26 AM
| QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 30 2005, 09:03 AM) |
| Sweet, thanks Craig! More than a year to prepare.. aweseome! Now I can reset my countdown clock! 432 days left! |
Yep, I'm going for sure! Right on Craig!
Need any help, please let me know.
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 3 2005, 09:44 AM
| QUOTE (mike_the_man @ May 2 2005, 09:19 PM) | ||
Ahhh, the Big Bear Burger. We saw another one on the way home and had to restrain Dan. |
if it's big burgers you want, you may have to consider PA ...
| QUOTE |
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050503/ap_on_fe_st/biggest_burger/nc:716;_ylt=AtipWUdswlY0xeX.ihIguCd34T0D;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl AP - Tue May 3, 8:05 AM ET CLEARFIELD, Pa. - The burger war is growing. Literally. Denny's Beer Barrel Pub, which lost its crown as the home of the world's biggest burger earlier this year, is now offering a new burger that weighs a whopping 15 pounds. |
Posted by: Yoei66 May 3 2005, 10:19 AM
| QUOTE (mike_the_man @ May 2 2005, 03:20 PM) | ||||
Maybe some microbrew. We'll have to see what we can fit in a couple of 914s. As for the thongs, it'll be both foot wear and swim wear. If I'm bringing a weekends worth of beer, and golf clubs, there ain't gonna be no room for clothes! I sure hope its warm out! |
Mike:
I assure you, you don't need to worry about bring micro brew with you. Portland is the capital of North West micro-brewing. There is a wide local regional, and international selection available here. We are very beer spoiled here in Portland. You may also have an easier time getting through customs at the US border, without trying to run across the boarder like Burt Reynolds in the movie Gator.
Posted by: rhodyguy May 3 2005, 10:40 AM
the cute waitress at the willows store is looking for a ride in a 914. her sights were on craig i think.
k
Posted by: Dan_F May 3 2005, 10:53 AM
The key to eating a big bear burger is getting only cheese and lettuce.
It allows the burger to stay together and doesn't fill you up on filler, the bun was the hardest part though. I'm glad I decided to not drink the gravy for the free dessert.
As for that 15 pound burger... wow! to anyone that eats that.
Posted by: mike_the_man May 3 2005, 10:56 AM
Well, maybe the Canadians will just have to buy a couple of kegs from the area. That would eliminate the transport problem, and allow me to bring some clothes with. Sounds like a win win situation for everybody involved.
Kevin, which waitress are you talking about? The young one, or the old one that kept calling Craig Honey?
Posted by: grantsfo May 3 2005, 12:05 PM
| QUOTE (Jeroen @ Apr 30 2005, 08:19 PM) |
| g-darn... what's wrong with you guys... this year it's april, now it's july for next years... why not may or june oh well... they're just gonna have to do with out me at the office We're not gonna miss another one... |
May and June are still rainy months in Portland. July and August are typically best months for no to little rain, but youre never safe there. I had a couple rainy 4th of July's when I lived in Portland.
A couple things to remeber with Portland and July time frame. For most of us Californians it means going up I 5 to make time. July and California Central Valley all the way up through Southern OR during that time of month will likely be a blast furnance. Not a problem for you people who plan to tow, but 914's without air will be in for a interesting trip. Something for you V8 guys running hot Chevy engines to think about too. Guess some of Nor Cal people could drive it during the evening or take much longer coastal routes. Lets just hope we have a cool July next year! Regardless I'll be there I still have lots of good freinds in that town and would love to see them.
Portland on the other hand will be beautiful in July. I'd love to see a drive around Mount Hood on one of the days. Getting onto the Track in Portland would be a blast as well.
Posted by: drgchapman May 3 2005, 12:11 PM
We are tentatively planning a loop of Mt Hood. Up the mountain, through Hood River and the Gorge, stop at Edgefield(maybe) for microbrew and then back to base. An awesome drive. Could go up to Timberline as well for the view, and to see the glacier. One of my favorite drives!
Posted by: Bruce Allert May 3 2005, 01:57 PM
a drive like that would be totally awesome... an all day trip especially stopping at Edgefield for some juice!
..........b
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 3 2005, 02:04 PM
i'd love to actually do a drive lilke that. the 1980 Parade rallye was all around Mt Hood with the dinner at the big ski lodge at the top. i understand the scenery was beautiful -- i was the navigator on that event and it all just looked like a clipboard to me...
i have some extended family in Troutdale/Corbett, overlooking the Gorge -- beautiful area !
Posted by: MW 914 May 17 2005, 08:34 PM
| QUOTE (AZ914 @ May 2 2005, 10:27 AM) |
| From the eastside of Tucson to PDX: Distance: 1462.8 miles Approximate Travel Time: 22 hours 30 mins Caravan anyone? |
I think I'm in. More than likely I'll tow the 914, however. The 5-6 hour stretch from Phoenix to San Diego doesn't sound like much fun in a 914 in July!
Posted by: GWN7 May 17 2005, 08:52 PM
I did a Google search on Portland.....most important bit I found was there are 21 brewerys in Portland.
Posted by: mike_the_man May 17 2005, 08:56 PM
That is important! Great research Bruce! You think you'll have a 914 ready to drive out for next year? Stop in Regina, and we can convoy from here!
Posted by: boxstr May 17 2005, 09:03 PM
Yes Bruce just might be driving a V8 914 to WCC 2006. WOOHHAAA We will see.
CCLINGUYINCHARGE
Posted by: GWN7 May 17 2005, 09:11 PM
Gees Craig.....keep it secret.....next you will be telling everyone about our plans to kidnap Miles and bring him to the WCC06 (Winnipeg to Savannah - 1833.80 miles Savannah to Portland - 2849.39 miles Total: 4683.19 miles)
P.S. He can find his own way home
Posted by: jimtab May 17 2005, 10:01 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ May 2 2005, 08:38 PM) |
| All of those people driving up through Calif, be sure and stop in Willows at the Black Bear Restaurant. You will find the drive much more bearable after the Big Bear Burger and a piece of Bearry Pie. Or if you are there for dinner the "Cluck and Buck", my favorite. If you miss the one in Willows you have a second chance at the one in Grants Pass, Oregon. CCLINBEARYBEARYBADBOY |
OR, go to the original Big Bear in Mt. Shasta, ca. I'm in, and my car will be nice enough for a number this time....
Posted by: bernbomb914 May 17 2005, 10:14 PM
for all of you that are going north to get there, go hwy 101 thru Sonoma wine country. It has some of the beautifulest twisty roads I have ever seen. just spent a week there and was dumbstruck with all the beauty everywhere from the old redwoods to the 500 year old oaks. you wont be dissapointed.
PS I will be there
Bernie
Posted by: smooth_eddy May 17 2005, 10:55 PM
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| If I'm bringing golf clubs and a keg in the 914, all I'm gonna be able to pack is thongs |
I hope he is talking about the kind that goes on feet. Not the ones seen at the beach in Rio de Janeiro.
Eddy
Posted by: smooth_eddy May 17 2005, 11:18 PM
I for one am excited about Portland. The city has a lot to offer and some spectacular drives just miles from the city. Being a global club, there is no perfect place for a gathering. I like the fact that other states get a chance to host the event. After all, California has had 2 WCC's now. July is the best time weather-wise in the NW and Portland is a relatively inexpensive city. I'll be there. Eddy
Posted by: rdauenhauer May 17 2005, 11:39 PM
Grant great Avatar!
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| I'm glad I decided to not drink the gravy for the free dessert. |
ROFLAMO Im gonna do my level best to get the 74 done before the event so dont feel slighted if you dont see a lot of posts from me ...
Ill be Workin on the Teener!
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 18 2005, 05:34 AM
| QUOTE (MW 914 @ May 17 2005, 10:34 PM) |
| The 5-6 hour stretch from Phoenix to San Diego doesn't sound like much fun in a 914 in July! |
done it, survived. did it in a '53 coupe, too. cools off a bit once you hit the mountains. still, i'd do it v-e-r-y early in the morning.
heading for Portland i think i'd take 10 to the 210 to 5 unless you have another reason to go to San Diego...
Posted by: MW 914 May 20 2005, 03:24 PM
I really want to go to WCC 2006 AND I really want my car there. However, driving there basically adds 3 1/2 - 4 days to the trip as it is about 20+ housrs of driving from Phoenix according to Mapquest.
How about this for an idea:
We get a couple of us from the Valley that want to go. Ship the cars up to Portland. Perhaps have them delivered to a local members house? Then we fly up, taxi over get our cars and let the fun begin. Then just reverse the whole process coming home.
I do love it up there. We go up to Ocenaside Oregon every year for vacation. Beautiful country I tell ya.
Any takers on my idea?
Posted by: double-a May 20 2005, 03:30 PM
excellent idea. just have them delivered to my house in vancouver, wa. if you're shipping a sixer, i'll need it here a couple weeks in advance so i can work out proper, uh, storage until you get here.
~a
Posted by: rhodyguy May 20 2005, 04:26 PM
timberline lodge is prob one of the most interesting buildings i've ever been in. both historically and architechturally. we should consider adding it to the intinerary on the loop. nice drive up the side of the hill too.
k
Posted by: double-a May 20 2005, 06:02 PM
awesome place, and we could re-enact scenes from the movie "the shining" since much of the movie was filmed there. 
~a
Posted by: ArtechnikA May 20 2005, 06:45 PM
| QUOTE (double-a @ May 20 2005, 08:02 PM) |
| we could re-enact scenes from the movie "the shining" since much of the movie was filmed there. |
RedRum -- RedRum -- RedRum -- RedRum ....
Posted by: smooth_eddy May 20 2005, 06:50 PM
Maybe we could add into the drive a stop at a winery? That would give people time to mingle and sip some grape juice too. With the next WCC in P-town, there will be lots of options for some great road trips.
Posted by: Headrage May 20 2005, 06:58 PM
So when is the countdown for this going to be started and nailed? I don't know about the rest of you, but it really motivates me to get off of my ass and get the car ready...
C'mon we only have X amount of days left!!!
Posted by: boxstr May 20 2005, 08:14 PM
CAMP 914 is expanding and I will have more space in the near future. No problem with shipping cars there and they can be in a large building until the owner arrives.
MT HOOD is in the plans, I think a drive up and a photo op in the parking lot below the mountain would be great. A run back to Troutdale and then to Mcmenamins Edgefield manor are also in the works.
As far as a countdown, aim for July 7,8 and 9 2006 will work. Someone get that nailed. If it changes I will be the first to know.
Craig C. Laughlin
Posted by: double-a May 20 2005, 10:22 PM
| QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ May 20 2005, 04:45 PM) | ||
RedRum -- RedRum -- RedRum -- RedRum .... |
great movie. weird, but great.
a trip to mt. hood and back would be spectacular!
~a
Posted by: bondo May 20 2005, 11:40 PM
| QUOTE (Headrage @ May 20 2005, 05:58 PM) |
| C'mon we only have X amount of days left!!! |
412!
Posted by: rhodyguy May 21 2005, 08:28 AM
with the extra days saved NOT having to drive to california 
, the wife and i will turn this into a week long adventure. for those into the hot springs/spa experience, carson hot springs and resort is pretty cool, and sort of funky. soaking in big old bath tubs filled with geothermal water, as hot as you can stand it, and then a wrap in muslin sheets and blankets to sweat out the takillya. there is an upscale, newer resort closer to p-land, bonneville hot springs and spa, iirc.
one thing i've never been able to figure out how to get to. on the oregon side of the gorge you can see what looks like an old castle/monestary up on the hillside above I-84. not that i think we should go there during the wcc.
k
Posted by: boxstr May 21 2005, 08:45 AM
Kevin I think you are refering to Maryhill Museum, check out there website, They have a vintage car hillclimb there each year. It is well worhth the trip.
You can cross over at the Dalles, or at Cascade Locks.
CCLINCRUZINSATURDAY
Posted by: xitspd May 21 2005, 09:02 AM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ May 21 2005, 06:45 AM) |
| Kevin I think you are refering to Maryhill Museum, check out there website, They have a vintage car hillclimb there each year. It is well worhth the trip. You can cross over at the Dalles, or at Cascade Locks. CCLINCRUZINSATURDAY |
What date is the vintage Hillclimb? Is there a website? Thanks,
Dan
Posted by: Porsche Rescue May 21 2005, 09:10 AM
Hillclimb is in Sept. Very exclusive event. Fun to watch I'm told. I believe there is a website. Try searching Maryhill Hill Climb. It is on a road no longer used. I believe it is the first paved road in the state of Washington.
Kevin, are you talking about the Vista House at Crown Point. From below the round stone building looks like a "crown", sitting high on a point? Only other structure might be the Columbia Gorge Hotel near Hood River.
If a Mt. Hood Loop drive happens it will certainly include that portion of the old Columbia River Highway and the Vista House.
Posted by: sixnotfour May 21 2005, 09:16 AM
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| What date is the vintage Hillclimb? Is there a website? Thanks, |
oct 8-9 this year
http://www.sovren.org/Page_1.html
Posted by: rhodyguy May 21 2005, 09:16 AM
that may be it jim. it's more visible from the washington side when you're on hwy 14(?), which is a nice drive too.
k
Posted by: Porsche Rescue May 21 2005, 11:04 AM
Vista House is a public building/viewpoint (breathtaking) and rest stop built with the highway in the 20's. Being restored last time I was there so you could not go in. Maybe it will be open by 2006.
Speaking of WA SR14, if you're ever traveling it stop in Stephenson at the Big River Grill. Truly the best hamburger I have eaten. Friday a week ago I took the 914 for a run there for lunch. I go about every 6 weeks, partly for the scenic drive (ever climb Beacon Rock?) and mostly for the Big River Grill. Passed the turn to the Bonneville Spa you mentioned.
Posted by: Porsche Rescue May 21 2005, 11:10 AM
Here it is
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