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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 05:58 PM

GOOD THING I HAVE PLENTY OF THESE.

K


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 05:59 PM

ONLY 3 TANKS OF FUEL.


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Posted by: spare time toys May 14 2005, 06:00 PM

What dark hard to read upside down photos

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:00 PM

NURSE, TOWEL PLEASE!!


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:01 PM

I SAID TOWEL PLEASE!!!


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:02 PM

GLOVES PLEASE.


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:09 PM

WHEN IN DOUBT PUT A LITTLE JB WELD AROUND THE FUCKED UP, DRILLED OUT HOLE.


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:11 PM

CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE HELL THAT PIECE OF WIRE IS?


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:12 PM

AT LEAST THINGS WERE DONE CONSISTANTLY. OTHER HEAD.


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:14 PM

I'VE NEVER QUITE SEEN A FLYWHEEL MACHINED LIKE THIS.


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:16 PM

LOOK AT THE WAY THE HAM HANDED PIECE OF SHIT FINE TUNED THE TIN WHEN HE TOOK OFF THE PORT MATCHED INTAKES.


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Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:19 PM

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PICTURE IS COMING NEXT.


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Posted by: Bleyseng May 14 2005, 06:20 PM

I always like to grind a bad starter so it customizes the flywheel! Iknow, they use a bug starter so it didn't catch the whole flywheel gear....

Hmm, got some 75-76 heads there Kevin that someone adapted with JB Weld. Real nice, so it was blowing crap all over the nice clean enginebay.

Is this the 2056 motor you bought???

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:30 PM

beware, beware, beware. i guess it was too good to believe. i suppose i should have ruined my trip to the WCC06' and tore into this engine on the spot. ready to install . FUCK YOU CHUMP!!!! . my intent is to expose you for the fat, thieving turd, you are. there will be more as i get to the bottom side. this is what your failure to be truthful has brought out in me. my engine has less debris after a 3000 mile road trip. there's witnesses this time . the plastic was still intact. i yelled at a friend and had to leave the garge for a moment.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:36 PM

no doubt the fucking mess EVERYWHERE is partially from the 2 cheese head screws, adjacient to the intake ports on both heads. glad a nice BIG bit was used. look at the wire in the one hole geoff. i'll see if the other picture is clearer. after i save a life and go find a shit eating dog to run over.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:40 PM

look closely.


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Posted by: Bleyseng May 14 2005, 06:45 PM

I see the wire, WTF is that?

Why is the motor so oily if it only has 3k on it???

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 06:53 PM

i'll be a bit clearer. the engine IN my CAR has less crap on it AFTER a 3k road trip with carbs and a crappy breather box. the engine pictured has only 3 tanks of fuel run through it after a complete rebuild. no fucking wonder it was removed.

Posted by: Bleyseng May 14 2005, 06:56 PM

ok, who did the rebuild??

Posted by: swood May 14 2005, 07:02 PM

Sheesh!! That's ugly!! Does that even qualify to have the term ''rebuild'' applied to it?!

Mine looks way better (still sitting on the bench...) and I don't know jack!

Get the word out. That's a shame!

Posted by: spare time toys May 14 2005, 08:03 PM

So who did the rebuild?

Posted by: reverie May 14 2005, 08:19 PM

It's very bad when something like this happens. Similar thing happened to me back in 1988, and I had to sell my beloved '53 Oval Sunroof as a result.

When you're ready, we need to know what happened..

Posted by: Type 4 May 14 2005, 08:22 PM

The Rebuild was done by Tom Whistler not by me.
Kevin was given the offer to return the engine many times but decided not to return it..

I never had that engine it went from Tom;s house to Scotts house,then to the WCC.

He had 3 days to look at the engine while at the WCC before he took delivery.

If during that time if he felt that he didnt want it all he had to do was call.

I offered to resovle this on his first email to me but he didnt want his money back.

I repeatedly offered him his money back to resovle this issuse but he didnt want his money back.

I offered to have the engine picked up and shipped back but he declined.

You would think that if he was unhappy with the engine he would want take up my offer to refund his money but he has declined to do that.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 08:36 PM

i purchased this engine with a cashiers check made out to STEVE STROMBERG (dba as Type 4). i have saved EVERY email and pm from him. when i figure out how to post screen shots of them, i intend to post both his and and mine to him. you will see the progression of untruths, lies by omission, and HIS stipulations and conditions regarding the return of this engine (which i am fully prepared to do, just not by his rules). i believe i'm doing each and everyone one you of a service by my actions. when dave hunt said "and look at this down here" i turned and walked out of the garage. if you folks want do deal with this guy i wish you the best of luck. i think there may be people other than dave hunt and al blose with first hand knowledge concerning this matter. if there are, when the time is appropriate i will ask them to step forward and share what they know. AFTER SS digs the hole a bit deeper. stay tuned.

k

Posted by: Type 4 May 14 2005, 08:39 PM

Post them Kevin every email says I would refund your money.

Posted by: tat2dphreak May 14 2005, 08:54 PM

my thought is that sometimes it's not just about the money... it can be about the principle... I think Kevin is at that point. I would be pissed too!

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 08:56 PM

you don't want to tell the WHOLE TRUTH? well i will. i bought the damn thing from YOU. see ... the engine goes back, and HE gets to inspect it to make sure ITS acceptable for return. then HE get's to decide if i meets HIS standards. with an engine that was ready to install, why should i have had to tear the plastic off and inspected it during the wcc. obviously my first mistake was ever believing a word you said. we had an exstensive conversation regaring the state and quality of the engine. your implication was it was first rate and the the builder was a person who knew what he was doing and that he had that built 6's. my FIRST inquiries were regaring the intakes and he's. first you knew nothing about them, then you wrote "i never said they were included". initially, you wanted me to to make arrangements for return and provided a list of local shippers. i politely told you i needed to have the money returned first. just as you had to have the money before you let it go out of your possesion. send me a cashiers check, made out to Kevin S. Powers and send it priority mail (just as i did). when i recieve it i will contact you via your website, and YOU can contact a shipper to have it picked up and the matter will be concluded.

i purchased this engine on your professional recommendations and statements. look at the pictures. would this engine be acceptable to you if you recieved in such a state?

Posted by: Type 4 May 14 2005, 08:59 PM

He had 3 days to inspect the engine.
It was in Scotts truck during WCC.
He had plenty of time to look at it.
You would think that he would have looked at it from moment he saw it in Scotts Truck.
Wouldnt you do that ?
If he didnt want it all he had to do was call.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 09:16 PM

trusting you as i did (second mistake), why should i have needed to inspect the engine that was ready to install? i couldn't take you at your word? you twist it around like i did something wrong. you want to settle the matter and will refund my money?GREAT STEVE!!!! . send me a cashier's check priority mail in the am, just as i paid for it. when i recieve the check i will notify the prepaid carrier of your choise to come and pick it up and we will conclude this matter.

Posted by: firstknight13 May 14 2005, 09:53 PM

well i think that all emails should be posted and then a vote from the membership should be counted and if THE membership votes it should BE!!! also if type 4 is in the wrong i think we as honest and good standing men and women should NOT allow someone practicing biz like this to associate in this CLUB!!! as you know "birds of a feather flock together" and the others can get the flock OUT!!!! the way i see it too many excuses sounds like my "EX"

Posted by: Qarl May 14 2005, 09:58 PM

Not defending either of you.. but Kevin, why didn't you take his offer to refund your money over a week ago (or maybe longer)?

Now it appears you are tearing into the engine, only making the situation worse.

I woulda just got my money back and be done with it by now.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 14 2005, 10:12 PM

karl, i've torn into nothing!!! removed the blue painters tape holding the plastic on. took pictures wiped some of the greasy coating on my fingers and that's it. reread steve's conditions, as i've posted. again, d.h. and a.b. were standing right next to me this afternoon. i've forgotten his expectation to have mesource and secure it to a pallet, which it came to me without. bottom line... i don't believe he will send the money. what assurances do i have he still has the money? dave suggested an escrow account. would you care to broker the deal?


edit. craig carried the engine up for me. from camarillo to portland then on to tacoma. i had to wait for him to bring it up from portland when i assisted him with a matter. steve's conditions of return have repeatedly changed. seeing the state of the engine today was the final straw.

k

Posted by: ChrisReale May 14 2005, 10:38 PM

Steve, judging by the pics, why would you sell shit like this?

Posted by: SLITS May 14 2005, 11:06 PM

Kevin....Slits is not benevolent, but here's the deal. According to Mapquest, you are 13 miles from Sumner, WA. We have a facility there - Northwest Recycler Core. The manager sends us approximately two semi-trailers of cores per week.

If STEVE will refund your money and YOU will transport the engine to our facility, I will see that he provides a pallet and puts it on the next truck coming to Riverside, CA. I will either hold the engine in Riverside and wait for Steve to come get it or I will take it to Scott Kline's house where Steve can pick it up, but I will guarantee with my word that he will get the engine (yeh, I know..who trusts Slits).

I will get the engine down here at no charge to you or Steve for that matter as I will inform the Manager up there that I have bought the engine from you and it needs to be transported to me.

I can't make the arrangements until Monday. If you are interested, PM me and I will give you the address and phone number of our Sumner facility.

That's my offer!

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 14 2005, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ May 14 2005, 10:06 PM)

Kevin....Slits is not benevolent, but here's the deal. According to Mapquest, you are 13 miles from Sumner, WA. We have a facility there - Northwest Recycler Core. The manager sends us approximately two semi-trailers of cores per week. If STEVE will refund your money and YOU will transport the engine to our facility, I will see that he provides a pallet and puts it on the next truck coming to Riverside, CA. I will either hold the engine in Riverside and wait for Steve to come get it or I will take it to Scott Kline's house where Steve can pick it up, but I will guarantee with my word that he will get the engine (yeh, I know..who trusts Slits). I will get the engine down here at no charge to you or Steve for that matter as I will inform the Manager up there that I have bought the engine from you and it needs to be transported to me. I can't make the arrangements until Monday. If you are interested, PM me and I will give you the address and phone number of our Sumner facility. That's my offer!

this is what the 914 club is about. GIVING.

ron. you are a model for what we should all strive to be.

and i still got a hard on from those calipers

Posted by: scruz914 May 15 2005, 12:21 AM

Ron, I'm impressed. With the shipping issues out of the way there is no reason the problem can't be resolved quickly. Kevin transports the engine to your shipping point in WA and turns it over to your 'agent'. At that point Steve cuts a check to Kevin. Steve receives the engine once it arrives in So. CA. Each person can be made whole through your kind offer.

Posted by: swood May 15 2005, 12:43 AM

Problem solved.


Who's next?!!

Posted by: Verruckt May 15 2005, 01:37 AM

This is awesome!

Somebody gets their engine back.

Somebody gets their money back.

Nobody pays for shipping.

And we won't have to fuching hear about this anymore.

Everybody wins!!!

Posted by: mike_the_man May 15 2005, 01:46 AM

Wait a minute! I helped unload that engine from the back of Craigs Jeep, so I have a vested interest in this! I believe that I should recieve some sort compensation for all of this!!! Just kidding! Way to go Ron, talk about going above and beyond. Kevin, take Ron up on his offer and get rid of the engine. Life is too short to have problems like this. You obviously don't want it, so sent it back. With the help of the club, everything will work out.

Posted by: DNHunt May 15 2005, 06:53 AM

Ron

That is a very generous offer. I hope that leads to a resolution of this matter, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I was there when Kevin uncovered the engine. The pictures make it look good. It is a grimy dirty thing and I'm inclined to believe it hasn't been apart for a very long time. I couldn't see any bright metal that would indicate that the case had been cleaned. In short I don't think this is a recent rebuild.

So, there is a dispute between a customer and a vendor. The customer realizing that he has been decieved wants his money back and the vendor will accept return but with conditions attached. Ron has been gracious enough to eliminate the cost of shipping which Steve wanted Kevin to pay. Kevin realizes that Steve has misrepresented the product and doesn't trust him to return the money if he returns the engine. The only leverage Kevin has is pocession of the engine. What would you do?

Over the last several years I have seen many references to deals going sour with Steve Stromberg. This is the first time I witnessed one. I haven't commented before. After seeing this engine that was represented as a recent rebuild I feel I can. How could anyone buy anything from this guy? If he treats customers this way how can he possibly hope to stay in business?

I've been in business 28 years and I always believe the customer. If they want a refund I'll refund the money. If they want something redone I'll redo it. The customer is always right. I don't break even on that principle, I lose money. For some reason Steve doesn't understand this concept. If it wasn't clear before it should be now, IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM THIS GUY YOU ARE A FOOL.

Dave

Posted by: rhodyguy May 15 2005, 08:43 AM

you're the man ron. pm sent at 7:35am pst. at this point i consider the matter closed.

mike, the next time i see you the BIG BEAR BURGER is on me. i'll even spring for the extra side of gravy.

k

Posted by: tat2dphreak May 15 2005, 12:44 PM

Mad props to Ron!! that's very great of you!

Posted by: Qarl May 15 2005, 05:54 PM

QUOTE

karl, i've torn into nothing!!! removed the blue painters tape holding the plastic on. took pictures wiped some of the greasy coating on my fingers and that's it. reread steve's conditions, as i've posted. again, d.h. and a.b. were standing right next to me this afternoon. i've forgotten his expectation to have mesource and secure it to a pallet, which it came to me without. bottom line... i don't believe he will send the money. what assurances do i have he still has the money? dave suggested an escrow account. would you care to broker the deal?

My bad... it's ashame that that was sold as a rebuilt motor considering how bad it looked just by looking at it.

Hope the return goes better for you.

Posted by: mike_the_man May 15 2005, 06:00 PM

Thanks Kevin, although not necessary. I didn't realize that engine was supposed to have been rebuilt. When we pulled it out of the back of Craig's jeep, it was pretty dirty. I just assumed that it had been pulled out of a car.

Posted by: redshift May 15 2005, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ May 15 2005, 01:06 AM)

That's my offer!

See, he's a genie.


M

Posted by: rhodyguy May 16 2005, 11:12 AM

thanks again ron . the engine was dropped off at N.C.R. about 1/2 hour ago.

steve, it seems the engine will transport at the end of this week or the first of next week and ron intends to deliver to you. please have the cashiers check ready for priority mail. for easy reference, please have the check made out to and mail it to:

Kevin S Powers
12502 40th Ave E
Tacoma WA 98446

also, rather than emails or pms, please post All replies and comments you may have in this thread. emails from you, via your isp are now blocked.

k

Posted by: dinomium May 16 2005, 11:21 AM

Man! I am sorry I didnt come over to Rhody-ville this week end, sounds like I wasn't the only one shovling sh!t! (mine went in the garden)

Glad to hear things are working out...

Posted by: otto May 18 2005, 08:58 AM

So stromturd f'ed another. Everybody beware!

Posted by: rhodyguy May 18 2005, 10:03 AM

a very informative conversation yesterday john. interesting i haven't seen thankyous or from those you helped out at willow springs, or maybe there are some and i just haven't seen them.

k

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 07:52 AM

what a nightmare. what a dishonest man. no shame, no pride. game player. coward. thief. onion!!!

k

Posted by: Headrage Jun 3 2005, 07:57 AM

Didn't this get resolved yet???

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 12:03 PM

a picture is worth a thousand words. here's some reading for those behind in their studies.

k

Posted by: Toast Jun 3 2005, 01:02 PM

Wholey Sheat!

Kevin, sorry man. Your too cool of a guy for this to happen to.
Glad someone here at the club was able to help you out.


Now, waiting for a check from Type4.........

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 01:30 PM

it'll be a long wait for that check i fear. is that the sky falling? no, it's the state of california. WHAM!!!

k

Posted by: Toast Jun 3 2005, 01:56 PM

Watch it now. I'm still in that state!

Well, hope all is taken care of PROMPTLY!

Hope to see you again soon Kevin, probably at WCC06!

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 25 2005, 07:40 AM

i know you lurk stromberg and i'm also am aware of your lastest case of deceptive theivery. you idiot!! are you addicted to heroin and you are complelled to steal from people? or is it just your nature? i'm watching you.

k

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Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 25 2005, 08:10 AM

'sup now?!


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Posted by: jonwatts Aug 25 2005, 08:26 AM

Yeah, when do we get to hear the State of the Onion?





(yes, I've been waiting weeks to use that line)

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 25 2005, 09:17 AM

i thought i had told you in a pm. so, what will happen is.... after the 2.0 is in the 75', i'll being doing this to the onion. pulling off the tin, pulling and inspecting the heads, determining the cr, inspecting the cyl as best i can, checking valve train geometry, checking the endplay, seeing if i can "read the cam", renewing the main seals, renewing the p.r. tube seals, plugging the missing air injecting plugs/bolts, replacing the f-ed up flywheel, replacing missing/f-ed up engine tin. while i'm in there might as well inspect the lifters. might just be easier to rebuild the whole thing. or drain the oil and give to al blose for a new boat anchor. so much for a "put on your carbs and install in your car" engine. blow me stromberg.

k

Posted by: Jake Raby Aug 25 2005, 10:12 AM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Aug 25 2005, 05:40 AM)

i'm watching you. k

Yeah- I've been watching him for the past 4 months......

Anyone wanna know the last time he took a crap???

The best thing about it is that he hasn't a clue- He'd never guess how or who has the eyeballs on him...

Posted by: jonwatts Aug 25 2005, 10:21 AM

It's been obvious since day one that the StromBurgler needs to be shown the light. Thanks for helping him see it.

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Aug 25 2005, 10:26 AM

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ May 14 2005, 04:20 PM)

I always like to grind a bad starter so it customizes the flywheel! Iknow, they use a bug starter so it didn't catch the whole flywheel gear.... Hmm, got some 75-76 heads there Kevin that someone adapted with JB Weld. Real nice, so it was blowing crap all over the nice clean enginebay. Is this the 2056 motor you bought???

A bug starter won't even turn, much less not fully engage the flywheel, which it would, BTW, if it had a front support, which it doesn't, which is why it won't turn. Why do you guys keep repeating this TOTALLY BOGUS and unsuppportable misinformation?
The Cap'n

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Aug 25 2005, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ May 14 2005, 04:45 PM)

I see the wire, WTF is that? Why is the motor so oily if it only has 3k on it???

It's the tab of a helicoil ........................ The Cap'n

Posted by: SpecialK Aug 25 2005, 11:27 AM

QUOTE (redshift @ May 15 2005, 06:07 PM)

QUOTE (SLITS @ May 15 2005, 01:06 AM) That's my offer! See, he's a genie. M

Careful Ron....you're going to ruin "SLITS'" reputation as an asshole.


P.S. - Thanks again for the seat support!!

Posted by: rdauenhauer Aug 25 2005, 11:42 AM

So Kev are we to understand the offending motor has made its way back to the land of rust and in back in your possesion?

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 25 2005, 12:39 PM

yes rich. the onion has been back for sometime. no way can it be put in my car without going through it pretty exstensively. me bringing this thread back up is about a totally unrelated matter that has come to my attention. well, sort of related, as stromberg is up to his despicable(so worthless or obnoxious as to rouse moral indignation; syn see CONTEMPTIBLE) ways again. blatantly so.

k

Posted by: Sammy Aug 25 2005, 01:03 PM

I musta missed it. what is the alleged scumbag up to this time?

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Aug 25 2005, 01:52 PM

Yea, Inquiring minds want to know.