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Posted by: r_towle Jun 29 2019, 06:09 PM

Does anyone have a drawing for a dolly in can use for the tub only, while I transport it to a body shop?

Posted by: mepstein Jun 29 2019, 06:31 PM

I have Rory’s dolly. I can take measurements for you in a day or two.

Base is 44” front to back & 46” wide, center to center.
Height is 18” center to top, without wheels.
Mounting holes to hold pins at donuts are 50” - both front to back and side to side, measured center to center.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=124


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Posted by: r_towle Jun 29 2019, 06:34 PM

Please do, no rush.
What are the pins?
A couple of close ups there please, if you have time.

Much appreciated

Posted by: mepstein Jun 29 2019, 08:04 PM

The pins make the height adjustable. They fit in the donuts so the chassis won’t slip off the dolly.

Posted by: JC 914-73 Jun 30 2019, 12:29 AM

How do you load the car on to the dolly?

-john

Posted by: mlindner Jun 30 2019, 05:08 AM

Sorry, not the best shots. This is made with a center rail going into sleeves on each end.
Very strong but also can be broken down to store/ship. Best, MarkAttached Image Attached Image

Posted by: mlindner Jun 30 2019, 05:14 AM

PS, my front supports go in the factory donuts....rear went to the engine support loops because I needed to deal with rear donut rust. Again with the center rail, the length can be adjust as needed, 911 etc.

Posted by: mepstein Jun 30 2019, 09:05 AM

QUOTE(mlindner @ Jun 30 2019, 07:14 AM) *

PS, my front supports go in the factory donuts....rear went to the engine support loops because I needed to deal with rear donut rust. Again with the center rail, the length can be adjust as needed, 911 etc.

My rack was built for a six so it mounts on the rear donuts. I believe Rory did most of the metalwork on a rotisserie and then moved the chassis to a dolly.

The bare chassis weighs 500-600 lbs so getting it on a dolly can be done by 4 adults or carefully jacking up each end and rolling the dolly underneath.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jun 30 2019, 09:43 AM

QUOTE(JC 914-73 @ Jun 30 2019, 02:29 AM) *

How do you load the car on to the dolly?

-john


I used a cherry picker in the front and a motorcycle jack on the rear.
Two cherry pickers are probably a better choice. They are so available now.
I attached to the car using the rotisserie fixture on the front with chain to triangulate to the picker arm.
The same can easily be done in the rear.
As I remember my lift was 24" min. maybe more.
Having the chassis hang is less precarious than supporting it on ever higher
stands or cobbled platforms.
Thank you Mark for posting the pictures.
Rory

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jun 30 2019, 02:40 PM

See Jeff hails thread - page 9 for dimensions

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76791&st=160

I’ve built it and it works well for me

Posted by: JC 914-73 Jul 1 2019, 12:31 PM

Thx for the info Roly

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John

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 1 2019, 03:36 PM

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Thx for the info Roly

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John


Hey John
As you know Mark has my dolly.
I don't have dimensions to send but Mark would likely be willing to help.
I can tell you that the vertical tubes are height adjustable and fit into the donuts at
the corners of the pan.
The rear top member is forward so that repairs can be made to the bulkhead and
fuel pump area. Also the engine can be installed or removed while the tub
is on the dolly.
Best
Rory

Posted by: jmitro Jul 1 2019, 09:47 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jul 1 2019, 04:36 PM) *

I can tell you that the vertical tubes are height adjustable and fit into the donuts at
the corners of the pan.
The rear top member is forward so that repairs can be made to the bulkhead and
fuel pump area. Also the engine can be installed or removed while the tub
is on the dolly.



nice design but with such tight tolerances (tube fitting precisely into the donut holes) I would think you'd need to have some allowability for differences from one chassis to another.

Mine was built in two hours with 4x4 blocks of wood and four Harbor Freight castors. Simple, cheap, easily disposed of.

Posted by: Literati914 Jul 1 2019, 10:08 PM

QUOTE(jmitro @ Jul 1 2019, 10:47 PM) *

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Mine was built in two hours with 4x4 blocks of wood and four Harbor Freight castors. Simple, cheap, easily disposed of.




I like this approach... Got details and pics?


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Posted by: Olympic 914 Jul 2 2019, 07:05 AM

Did this one, pretty cheap and sturdy.

Cut groves in a 2x4 on the table saw and set the seam into it. made a couple passes so it didn't have to be so precise.

Don't have the measurement right now. but you get the idea.

Think I held the grooved 2x4s under the car with floor jacks and connected the cross pieces and then built the frame.

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Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 2 2019, 07:17 AM

QUOTE(jmitro @ Jul 1 2019, 11:47 PM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jul 1 2019, 04:36 PM) *

I can tell you that the vertical tubes are height adjustable and fit into the donuts at
the corners of the pan.
The rear top member is forward so that repairs can be made to the bulkhead and
fuel pump area. Also the engine can be installed or removed while the tub
is on the dolly.



nice design but with such tight tolerances (tube fitting precisely into the donut holes) I would think you'd need to have some allowability for differences from one chassis to another.

Mine was built in two hours with 4x4 blocks of wood and four Harbor Freight castors. Simple, cheap, easily disposed of.


There are any ways to skin a cat.

Posted by: jmitro Jul 2 2019, 04:41 PM

QUOTE(Literati914 @ Jul 1 2019, 11:08 PM) *

I like this approach... Got details and pics?


I would do it like Olympic 914 shows above. Mine was not quite that nice

Posted by: JC 914-73 Jul 2 2019, 10:20 PM

Thx for the follow up post Rory.

I'm still trying to figure what will work best in my case. My car is currently with everything attached sans engine, exhaust and transaxle. Things to do are front suspension bushings, struts and rear hubs replacement, and clutch. It's very nice to have the car on a dolly while working on all of the above. The other option I'm considering is to get the QuickJack, probably more money (~$1400 Cad) but with the convenience of raising or lowering the car at ease.

John



Posted by: mlindner Jul 3 2019, 04:53 AM

Best of both worlds, dolly on the lift.Attached Image

Posted by: beech4rd Jul 3 2019, 02:32 PM

This works.

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Posted by: Literati914 Jul 3 2019, 03:53 PM

Thanks for posting that beech4rd, looks simple and sufficient.

Posted by: roblav1 Jul 9 2019, 07:11 PM

I whipped up this dolly over the past couple days out of an old industrial stainless steel sink. The leg adjusters are upside down and insert in the chassis donuts. Casters are heavy duty at 750 lbs each. Not height adjustable, but set to allow engine installation.

GT build sits now in black epoxy primer.


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Posted by: mepstein Jul 9 2019, 07:54 PM

Great repurpose.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 9 2019, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(roblav1 @ Jul 9 2019, 09:11 PM) *

I whipped up this dolly over the past couple days out of an old industrial stainless steel sink. The leg adjusters are upside down and insert in the chassis donuts. Casters are heavy duty at 750 lbs each. Not height adjustable, but set to allow engine installation.

GT build sits now in black epoxy primer.


Beautiful dolly.
Beautiful car......more pics please

Posted by: roblav1 Jul 31 2019, 06:30 PM

Pics of car immediately after removing paper and tape after color. The dolly is working great. Color is 1970 Porsche 911 Bahia Red. According to the PPG paint records I found, it's slightly different than the VW Bahia Red.


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Posted by: Olympic 914 Jul 31 2019, 06:42 PM

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Looks Good.

Posted by: brettrarnold Aug 11 2019, 09:43 PM

Any Denver owners want a chassis dolly? 50"long x 73"wide x 22" tall with a shelf on the back to lift the rear of the car up and down.
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