Posted by: dhuckabay Jun 3 2021, 05:10 PM
In a picture of the past Clay made mention the mirror may not be correct. I could not figure out how to attach a pic to a PM, so here we are.
Is this an original, if not what does an original look like?
Thanks
John
Posted by: aturboman Jun 3 2021, 05:18 PM
Early mirrors are defined by a much more acute 90' angle between the head and base stem as indicated in the red circled area.
Effectively its similar to a mitered corner in wood working, this is the later style with a curved 90'
Hope this helps.
Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 3 2021, 05:21 PM
Mirror size also determines if it is early or late. Early is smaller.
Posted by: dhuckabay Jun 3 2021, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(aturboman @ Jun 3 2021, 04:18 PM)
Early mirrors are defined by a much more acute 90' angle between the head and base stem as indicated in the red circled area.
Effectively its similar to a mitered corner in wood working, this is the later style with a curved 90'
Hope this helps.
Many thanks. I now have to see if one can be found. Any clue when the style changed?
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jun 3 2021, 05:23 PM
Here is the correct side mirror for early cars- like a '71.
The problem is these mirrors are getting old. Mine are original to my car and the glass is a bit loose. It is on my list to fix. Probably try to shim the glass tight with something you would never see.
Posted by: dhuckabay Jun 3 2021, 05:27 PM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jun 3 2021, 04:23 PM)
Here is the correct side mirror for early cars- like a '71.
The problem is these mirrors are getting old. Mine are original to my car and the glass is a bit loose. It is on my list to fix. Probably try to shim the glass tight with something you would never see.
Perfect, thanks for the picture. Clay picked it out a distance, am in awe. Think you are right, going to be tough to find. First peek showed nothing.
Posted by: gereed75 Jun 3 2021, 09:13 PM
Not super hard to find.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=353400
Not sure exactly when they changed - I seem to recall somewhere around mid 71
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 4 2021, 05:52 AM
QUOTE(dhuckabay @ Jun 3 2021, 06:27 PM)
Clay picked it out a distance, am in awe.
Don't be. It is just 35 years of fooling with these little cars.
The only difference between early and late mirrors is the elbow. The rest of the mirror is identical. The later mirror elbow moves the mirror slightly outboard from the early mirror.
And you can get kits to replace the glass. I have two early mirrors, one is on Elwood, and the other will be going on the right side of Elwood.
I have never understood the reasoning behind not having a right hand mirror (Or left for those who shift with the left hand). It makes it easier to change lanes and look for the cops.
Clay
Posted by: mepstein Jun 4 2021, 07:11 AM
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jun 4 2021, 07:52 AM)
QUOTE(dhuckabay @ Jun 3 2021, 06:27 PM)
Clay picked it out a distance, am in awe.
Don't be. It is just 35 years of fooling with these little cars.
The only difference between early and late mirrors is the elbow. The rest of the mirror is identical. The later mirror elbow moves the mirror slightly outboard from the early mirror.
And you can get kits to replace the glass. I have two early mirrors, one is on Elwood, and the other will be going on the right side of Elwood.
I have never understood the reasoning behind not having a right hand mirror (Or left for those who shift with the left hand). It makes it easier to change lanes and look for the cops.
Clay
The early mirror is smaller. Glass is different. Stainless steel back is smaller. Gaskets are different.
Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 4 2021, 07:17 AM
Mark is right, almost everything on the older mirror is different.
The base seems to be the same.
Posted by: wonkipop Jun 4 2021, 05:36 PM
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jun 4 2021, 05:52 AM)
QUOTE(dhuckabay @ Jun 3 2021, 06:27 PM)
Clay picked it out a distance, am in awe.
Don't be. It is just 35 years of fooling with these little cars.
The only difference between early and late mirrors is the elbow. The rest of the mirror is identical. The later mirror elbow moves the mirror slightly outboard from the early mirror.
And you can get kits to replace the glass. I have two early mirrors, one is on Elwood, and the other will be going on the right side of Elwood.
I have never understood the reasoning behind not having a right hand mirror (Or left for those who shift with the left hand). It makes it easier to change lanes and look for the cops.
Clay
exactly.
makes me wonder how i ever drove it with just one mirror 30 years ago when i was doing right hand shifting. i think my 914 was the only car i ever had with just one mirror.
even my old vws had two mirrors in aus. we had J cars in the 60s with the mirrors way out near the front end of the mudguards. an experience! kind of like reverse tunnel vision.