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Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 11:09 AM
Well you all read the title! I know this has been debated numerous times, but I think another round of debate ending in disagreement would be fun!
I'll start: My dad had two 914's when I was a kid and both came with Porsche Crests installed. I never knew any different until I started seriously looking at buying one. Now I own a car with no crest, and it bothers me.
And to frustrate the situation further, George's recent video on the mean green 914 was the first time I ever heard anyone disparage the idea of having a crest on a 914. Maybe in Europe where they were sold as VW-Porsche I could understand, but in the states, they have ALWAYS been a Porsche!
I say it's time for 914 World to unite and crest every 914 alive today!! We need to create a template to standardize placement and get after it!! If you see a 914 at the grocery store, make sure you have a drill handy and get over there and FIX THAT CAR! I'm sure the cops will understand why you're drilling on a stranger's hood when you explain the injustice and prejudice that has gone on for so many decades!
You're turn! ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: Steve Oct 26 2021, 11:39 AM
Well you all read the title! I know this has been debated numerous times, but I think another round of debate ending in disagreement would be fun!
I'll start: My dad had two 914's when I was a kid and both came with Porsche Crests installed. I never knew any different until I started seriously looking at buying one. Now I own a car with no crest, and it bothers me.
And to frustrate the situation further, George's recent video on the mean green 914 was the first time I ever heard anyone disparage the idea of having a crest on a 914. Maybe in Europe where they were sold as VW-Porsche I could understand, but in the states, they have ALWAYS been a Porsche!
I say it's time for 914 World to unite and crest every 914 alive today!! We need to create a template to standardize placement and get after it!! If you see a 914 at the grocery store, make sure you have a drill handy and get over there and FIX THAT CAR! I'm sure the cops will understand why you're drilling on a stranger's hood when you explain the injustice and prejudice that has gone on for so many decades!
You're turn!
Famous answer... It's your car do what you want. The purist concourse weenies will protest they didn't come that way, but its my car and it already has a badge on it and I'm not removing it. I do agree, some badges are too high and they look stupid. Otherwise IMHO most cars look better with a badge.
Posted by: mate914 Oct 26 2021, 11:49 AM
100% true, but having a small nail polish bottle with some paint. To cover up that bare metal after drilling, just to be nice.....
A 914 is pure Porsche.
Matt 
Well you all read the title! I know this has been debated numerous times, but I think another round of debate ending in disagreement would be fun!
I'll start: My dad had two 914's when I was a kid and both came with Porsche Crests installed. I never knew any different until I started seriously looking at buying one. Now I own a car with no crest, and it bothers me.
And to frustrate the situation further, George's recent video on the mean green 914 was the first time I ever heard anyone disparage the idea of having a crest on a 914. Maybe in Europe where they were sold as VW-Porsche I could understand, but in the states, they have ALWAYS been a Porsche!
I say it's time for 914 World to unite and crest every 914 alive today!! We need to create a template to standardize placement and get after it!! If you see a 914 at the grocery store, make sure you have a drill handy and get over there and FIX THAT CAR! I'm sure the cops will understand why you're drilling on a stranger's hood when you explain the injustice and prejudice that has gone on for so many decades!
You're turn!
Posted by: NARP74 Oct 26 2021, 12:23 PM
NARP! Uphold the tradition...
Posted by: bbrock Oct 26 2021, 12:23 PM
The design team voted to badge them, but the marketing wonks messed that up. Seems like badging is pure to the wishes of those who designed these cars.
No need to drill hoods though. 3M trim tape.
Posted by: flipb Oct 26 2021, 12:29 PM
My dad had two 914's when I was a kid and both came with Porsche Crests installed.
Just curious, is there any evidence that individual US dealerships installed them on brand new 914s?
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 12:31 PM
NARP! Uphold the tradition...
NARP as in Not A Real Porsche? Ha! That's too funny!!
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 12:35 PM
My dad had two 914's when I was a kid and both came with Porsche Crests installed.
Just curious, is there any evidence that individual US dealerships installed them on brand new 914s?
If I was a bettin' man, which I am, I'd put money on the idea that any of them would for a fee!
Posted by: VaccaRabite Oct 26 2021, 01:05 PM
When I got mine, it had a badge. I took it off and filled the holes.
In fact I've taken all the Porsche badging off my car. My car used to have the side stripes. And I took the lettering off the engine grill too.
I even replaced the Porsche grill lettering with a vintage Volkswagen badge at one point. Though that is also off the car.
The only badging left is a 914world sticker and a 914world badge on the grill.
Zach
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Oct 26 2021, 01:16 PM
Well you all read the title!
Famous answer... It's your car do what you want. The purist concourse weenies will protest they didn't come that way, but its my car and it already has a badge on it and I'm not removing it. I do agree, some badges are too high and they look stupid. Otherwise IMHO most cars look better with a badge.
In my 914's case, there is an emotional reason: The car was my older brother's before it was mine, and I spent my head-earned cash as a 13yo on a hood crest as a gift because I thought his new ride looked funny with a PORSCHE reflector (and grille letters) but no hood badge. I didn't "know better" about Porsche history, etc. I just thought the front end looked too plain.
But its place on the car was cemented on a trip to Oregon, where we couldn't pump our own gas. The attendant went to the back and asked if he could check the oil, so my brother popped the rear trunk lid just to josh him. The guy said, "All good!" and proceeded to clean the windshield and the back window. We thought he was just super on it, but when we got to a campground that night, we saw the hood crest was crooked. One post was broken, which probably happened after the fill-up when the hood was closed using the crest—but we all know the posts aren't exactly robust. Still have that crest laying around, somewhere, sun-weathered after many years on the car. The PORSCHE reflector and grille letters are long gone, but a 1973~ orange-bar crest a dear friend gave me is on the car. Is it incorrect? Yep. Do I wish it had been installed with 3M, or redone that way when I painted the car? Sure. Does it matter much? Nope, not to me anyway.
While I've warmed to the 914 without a hood crest due to the design's simplicity, I still think the nose looks a little better with that pointer/point of interest up there. And at least one or two 914s got them while they were still at Porsche…
YMMV!
Posted by: falcor75 Oct 26 2021, 01:18 PM
When I bought mine back in 2013 I was dead set on adding a front badge. Over the years that it took to restore it I changed my mind and only have the Porsche lettering on the engine grille and I'm very happy with the understated look.
Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 26 2021, 01:19 PM
NARP! Uphold the tradition...
NARP as in Not A Real Porsche? Ha! That's too funny!!
It wasn’t so funny back in the day when it was a slur used by ‘other’ Porsche owners to demean the 914. I was there, I lived it and now carry the NARP attitude as a badge of honor.
Those who are new to the appreciation would like to wipe the history like it didn’t happen. But, many of us know the truth and aren’t willing to let it slide. Won’t matter in a few years when I’m too old to drive my 914 and I move on, but til then…….
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 02:13 PM
I went through Air Force flight training with some Germans. At the time I owned a 944. I tried to talk to them about my experiences learning to drive in a 914 and my current ownership of a 944. They were less than receiving of my enthusiasm. I proceeded to tell them that there's a reason the US is back-to-back world war champs and Germans are now night club weirdos who think wearing a white belt is cool.
I've lived with Porsche owner snobbery with every Porsche I've driven/owned. First a 914, then the 944, and even with my 996. If these people were even remotely correct, then there would be no way for me to identify the common design language and characteristics between all of those allegedly unrelated cars. But the truth is, I see and feel the common DNA. They all look like a Porsche and drive like a Porsche; therefore, it's a Duck!
Posted by: emerygt350 Oct 26 2021, 03:07 PM
Well, it has an engine designed by Dr. Porsche so obviously you shouldn't consider it one. 
My only concern with the ornament is people hurting the car trying to steal it. Otherwise I like the way it looks present or not.
I wonder about a magnetic one you could put on when you feel like it...
Posted by: Craigers17 Oct 26 2021, 03:38 PM
I fell in love with these cars back in high school, but didn't buy my first one until around 2002. To be honest, I don't give two cents whether anybody considers them Porsches or VW's....I don't even care. I just like the way they drive and look. That said, I hate most all badging of any kind, as well as side markers. To me, they all take away the clean lines of the car.
To me badging and decals just clutter things up. You can make the car "pop" by color contrasts between the paint, the wheels, bumpers, brake calipers, etc., without putting decals and emblems all over it....not a huge fan of chrome either, but that's just me.
I know what brand vehicle I'm driving, and if passers by don't know what it is, let them wonder. Modern trucks are my pet peev with big cheesy 1 foot "RAM" badging across the tail gate or something like "King Ranch" plastered on the side.....I think that may have come from The Simpsons....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4LTraBoXmg
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 26 2021, 03:48 PM
NARP! Uphold the tradition...
NARP as in Not A Real Porsche? Ha! That's too funny!!
It wasn’t so funny back in the day when it was a slur used by ‘other’ Porsche owners to demean the 914. I was there, I lived it and now carry the NARP attitude as a badge of honor.
Those who are new to the appreciation would like to wipe the history like it didn’t happen. But, many of us know the truth and aren’t willing to let it slide. Won’t matter in a few years when I’m too old to drive my 914 and I move on, but til then…….
911's couldn't accept that a 914 actually handles better than the 911 of the same era. "Have you ever driven a 914? No . . . well here, drive mine."
Usually that ended the debate but of course there were those that saw lift thottle oversteer as some sort of 911 handling trait to be cherished.
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 26 2021, 04:37 PM
No production 914 ever left the factory with a hood badge ...
Posted by: eric9144 Oct 26 2021, 04:38 PM
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 04:59 PM
Posted by: JamesM Oct 26 2021, 05:02 PM
No production 914 ever left the factory with a hood badge ...
THATI say it's time for 914 World to unite and crest every 914 alive today!! We need to create a template to standardize placement and get after it!! If you see a 914 at the grocery store, make sure you have a drill handy and get over there and FIX THAT CAR! I'm sure the cops will understand why you're drilling on a stranger's hood when you explain the injustice and prejudice that has gone on for so many decades!
So you want I should drill holes in the hood of my bumblebee?
Na, im good!
Not into drilling unnecessary holes in that or any of my 914, or any car for that matter
When I bought my first 914 at 19 It had to have a hood crest, and a center rear reflector and 916 bumpers, and flares... not so much anymore. Of that list at this point the flares and the badge are the only 2 on that list I even find still acceptable... but thats "acceptable" as in if they are already on the car cool... leave them, but if your car doesen't already have them, and doesent need them(in the case of a large 6 conversion) I see no reason to put them on.
If you MUST have a Porsche badge buy a 911... or a boxter, or 944, or even a 924, they all came with them. Actually on that note, think some of the newer 911 GT3s came with a sticker on the hood instead of the actual physical badge, That might be a better way to go than drilling holes in your hood. Then when people ask why you have a sticker instead of a badge you can tell them its a GT3 part for weight savings to make your car faster! and added bonus, you wont have extra holes in your hood!
Posted by: JamesM Oct 26 2021, 05:04 PM
Hey look!! its a bargain at only 80 bucks for the sticker!!!
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-porsche-parts/porsche-crest-hood-badge-decal/99655921190/
I mean you could probably print your own but then Porsche would sue you back to the point of never wanting to see their logo on anything you own ever again!
Posted by: NARP74 Oct 26 2021, 05:09 PM
Hey look!! its a bargain at only 80 bucks for the sticker!!!
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-porsche-parts/porsche-crest-hood-badge-decal/99655921190/
I mean you could probably print your own but then Porsche would sue you back to the point of never wanting to see their logo on anything you own ever again!
I love the weight saving angle in the description. That makes it way more expensive!
Posted by: JamesM Oct 26 2021, 05:11 PM
Now I own a car with no crest, and it bothers me.
A little while ago a car came up for auction where the PO had somehow managed to get the Porsche name and or logo on to just about every panel and part off the whole damn car. Need to go find that thread/car you will love it! Will for sure meet your need of having enough badging!
Im just having fun with you... If you want the hood badge, install a hood badge, but they were not original and in my mind totally unnecessary.
Posted by: Robarabian Oct 26 2021, 05:41 PM
No production 914 ever left the factory with a hood badge ...
THATI say it's time for 914 World to unite and crest every 914 alive today!! We need to create a template to standardize placement and get after it!! If you see a 914 at the grocery store, make sure you have a drill handy and get over there and FIX THAT CAR! I'm sure the cops will understand why you're drilling on a stranger's hood when you explain the injustice and prejudice that has gone on for so many decades!
So you want I should drill holes in the hood of my bumblebee?
Na, im good!
Not into drilling unnecessary holes in that or any of my 914, or any car for that matter
When I bought my first 914 at 19 It had to have a hood crest, and a center rear reflector and 916 bumpers, and flares... not so much anymore. Of that list at this point the flares and the badge are the only 2 on that list I even find still acceptable... but thats "acceptable" as in if they are already on the car cool... leave them, but if your car doesen't already have them, and doesent need them(in the case of a large 6 conversion) I see no reason to put them on.
If you MUST have a Porsche badge buy a 911... or a boxter, or 944, or even a 924, they all came with them. Actually on that note, think some of the newer 911 GT3s came with a sticker on the hood instead of the actual physical badge, That might be a better way to go than drilling holes in your hood. Then when people ask why you have a sticker instead of a badge you can tell them its a GT3 part for weight savings to make your car faster! and added bonus, you wont have extra holes in your hood!
Don't forget to paint WEISSACH on the side of it..
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 05:59 PM
This thread is rapidly becoming everything I hoped it would!
I don’t know why all these anti-badgers put on pants in the morning! They didn’t leave the factory with them!
I kid I kid… put on some pants fellas, your mid-engine is showing!
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 06:07 PM
So you want I should drill holes in the hood of my bumblebee?
Na, im good!
Not into drilling unnecessary holes in that or any of my 914, or any car for that matter
When I bought my first 914 at 19 It had to have a hood crest, and a center rear reflector and 916 bumpers, and flares... not so much anymore. Of that list at this point the flares and the badge are the only 2 on that list I even find still acceptable... but thats "acceptable" as in if they are already on the car cool... leave them, but if your car doesen't already have them, and doesent need them(in the case of a large 6 conversion) I see no reason to put them on.
If you MUST have a Porsche badge buy a 911... or a boxter, or 944, or even a 924, they all came with them. Actually on that note, think some of the newer 911 GT3s came with a sticker on the hood instead of the actual physical badge, That might be a better way to go than drilling holes in your hood. Then when people ask why you have a sticker instead of a badge you can tell them its a GT3 part for weight savings to make your car faster! and added bonus, you wont have extra holes in your hood!
I actually have one of the Porsche crest stickers. They make them in the style of each generation of Porsche crest now. So, that and some GT3 RS side stripes and my little 1.8 will be running circles around you fools!
In all seriousness, I’m still considering what I want in the long run. But I think it’s unshakable in my mind that the crest needs to be on there. Like I said earlier, I didn’t even know 914s were excluded until somewhat recently.
Posted by: Jett Oct 26 2021, 06:13 PM
I spent $ fixing the hood from the PO who drilled it 
Use a sticker if you must 
Posted by: aharder Oct 26 2021, 06:54 PM
I don't care for the Badge on the Hood so I put my Badge here.
Posted by: Front yard mechanic Oct 26 2021, 07:16 PM
I use Crest twice a day on my teeth 
Posted by: Van B Oct 26 2021, 09:34 PM
For those still reading, here’s the original thread I found that inspired me. That first photo cracks me up every time!
Also, it confirms that some dealers did apply the crest/badge
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=198488
Posted by: rjames Oct 26 2021, 10:30 PM
If I ever have the $ and time to get around to repainting my car, the crest will be removed (along with the side markers).
Posted by: wonkipop Oct 26 2021, 11:50 PM
NARP! Uphold the tradition...
Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 27 2021, 06:18 AM
No badge for me. However, if I ever installed one it would be with trim tape (no holes) or I would just buy the sticker.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 07:47 AM
Even weak minded Ferrari Dino owners suffer the same need to put the Ferrari badge on their cars.
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ferrari-badge-on-dino.33591/
NARF? 
Posted by: mate914 Oct 27 2021, 08:17 AM
So... If the designers of the car wanted a crest, because its a Porsche.
And the sales team said no because of....well.. just because they can...
If you are against a emblem, don't you dare cut holes for a water pumper or vent.
Posted by: bbrock Oct 27 2021, 08:18 AM
I think I get it now. To be a member of the club that honors the tradition of not being welcomed to the other club, and was created by the botched marketing of a brilliantly engineered car - I can swap any engine I like into the chassis EXCEPT electric motors, and it is cool to install any period correct option or accessory available from the dealer EXCEPT the hood badge. Do I have that right? 
Posted by: Shivers Oct 27 2021, 08:22 AM
Even weak minded Ferrari Dino owners suffer the same need to put the Ferrari badge on their cars.
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ferrari-badge-on-dino.33591/
NARF?
My Lord, it is a NARF.
Imagine all that grief after paying that much.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 08:43 AM
I think I get it now. To be a member of the club that honors the tradition of not being welcomed to the other club, and was created by the botched marketing of a brilliantly engineered car - I can swap any engine I like into the chassis EXCEPT electric motors, and it is cool to install any period correct option or accessory available from the dealer EXCEPT the hood badge. Do I have that right?
No.
The only acceptable engine is aircooled. Others are tolerated, but, we all know the only proper motor is air cooled. Glad to be able clear that up.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 08:45 AM
So... If the designers of the car wanted a crest, because its a Porsche.
And the sales team said no because of....well.. just because they can...
If you are against a emblem, don't you dare cut holes for a water pumper or vent.
Agreed. No problem.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 27 2021, 08:51 AM
No badge for me and also remove the rear grill lettering. Not many people around know what a 914 is anyway. Put lettering and/or a badge on it and it's that much more I have to hear the word "Porsh"
"Nice Porsh"
"Uh, it's Porsche you friggen dolt."
Posted by: tygaboy Oct 27 2021, 08:52 AM
I think I get it now. To be a member of the club that honors the tradition of not being welcomed to the other club, and was created by the botched marketing of a brilliantly engineered car - I can swap any engine I like into the chassis EXCEPT electric motors, and it is cool to install any period correct option or accessory available from the dealer EXCEPT the hood badge. Do I have that right?
No.
The only acceptable engine is aircooled. Others are tolerated, but, we all know the only proper motor is air cooled. Glad to be able clear that up.
HIJACK WARNING: The coolant in my swapped engine is ultimately cooled by air so I'm going to claim I'm still in the club.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 08:53 AM
"Nice Porsh"
"Uh, it's Porsche you friggen dolt."
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 08:56 AM
HIJACK WARNING: The coolant in my swapped engine is ultimately cooled by air so I'm going to claim I'm still in the club.
You're in . . . becuase you are an awe inspiring fabricator. Other than that, you're on probation . . .
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 08:57 AM
I all seriousness . . . I appreaciate the humor and that you've all allowed a trouble maker like me to be part of the 914 World!
Posted by: mrholland2 Oct 27 2021, 09:22 AM
Why not put them on the sail panels kind of like the Ghia badges on the vinyl roof of a Mustang II? LOL
Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 27 2021, 10:24 AM
I all seriousness . . . I appreaciate the humor and that you've all allowed a trouble maker like me to be part of the 914 World!
I think the majority of population of 914World consists of troublemakers.
Clay
Posted by: Van B Oct 27 2021, 10:58 AM
page two of this thread just took this silly debate to a whole new level lol!!! 
What's cracking me up is that we, as owners of a car that some claim as NARP, generally exhibit the same kind of picky and strong opinions that the Porsche community is known for!
I mean if it wasn't for guys like Magnus Walker who popularized the idea of making a car look however you wanted it to, then I'm sure anyone who painted their car any color other than the original color would be shamed out of town!
And it's so ironic that Porsche owners are so set on being picky, we'll continue to do the exact thing that Magnus was rebelling against.
About Magnus when he was new - "Oh it's not a real outlaw because only 356s can be outlaws"
About anyone who's not Magnus - "Oh, it's not a real Magnus Walker, just a tribute or a clone"
In fact, it literally just dawned on me that in my joking of the original post, I was still being a pedantic Porsche owner by expressing the need to standardize hood crest placement! 
Thus, fellas, we are as Porsche as Porsche owners get! 
Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 27 2021, 11:09 AM
I think I get it now. To be a member of the club that honors the tradition of not being welcomed to the other club, and was created by the botched marketing of a brilliantly engineered car - I can swap any engine I like into the chassis EXCEPT electric motors, and it is cool to install any period correct option or accessory available from the dealer EXCEPT the hood badge. Do I have that right?
No.
The only acceptable engine is aircooled. Others are tolerated, but, we all know the only proper motor is air cooled. Glad to be able clear that up.
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 27 2021, 11:15 AM
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
Oh man! Now I'm out of the club and I didn't even know it. 
Posted by: Steve Oct 27 2021, 11:24 AM
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
Oh man! Now I'm out of the club and I didn't even know it. What is a carburetor? Is that like a light bulb or vacuum tube?
Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 27 2021, 11:42 AM
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
Oh man! Now I'm out of the club and I didn't even know it. Sorry, I was aiming at @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845 , you were just in the line of fire.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 27 2021, 12:16 PM
What is a carburetor? Is that like a light bulb or vacuum tube?
It's a perfume atomizer.......
Posted by: flipb Oct 27 2021, 12:18 PM
What is a carburetor? Is that like a light bulb or vacuum tube?
It's a perfume atomizer.......
Non-sequitur, but... I've always felt this was the wrong comparison. Isn't a perfume atomizer way more akin to a fuel injector? Since it takes a positive force to push out the fuel? (As opposed to a carb, where vacuum pressure pulls out the fuel.)
Posted by: Van B Oct 27 2021, 12:36 PM
Non-sequitur, but... I've always felt this was the wrong comparison. Isn't a perfume atomizer way more akin to a fuel injector? Since it takes a positive force to push out the fuel? (As opposed to a carb, where vacuum pressure pulls out the fuel.)
You're making too much sense man! Haven't you read Plato's allegory of the cave?
Posted by: second wind Oct 27 2021, 04:31 PM
You don't see this badge placement very often but I love it! So subtle ...I've been told that the crest is special as well.
All the best,
gg
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Posted by: bbrock Oct 27 2021, 04:51 PM
I think I get it now. To be a member of the club that honors the tradition of not being welcomed to the other club, and was created by the botched marketing of a brilliantly engineered car - I can swap any engine I like into the chassis EXCEPT electric motors, and it is cool to install any period correct option or accessory available from the dealer EXCEPT the hood badge. Do I have that right?
No.
The only acceptable engine is aircooled. Others are tolerated, but, we all know the only proper motor is air cooled. Glad to be able clear that up.
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
Dangit! I'm out of the "out of the club" club. Guess it's off to the NARNARP club for me.
Posted by: Ansbacher Oct 27 2021, 07:51 PM
If I ever have the $ and time to get around to repainting my car, the crest will be removed (along with the side markers).
Now that is interesting. So, you want to remove the crest because the car did not originally come with one, but you want to remove the side markers because it did?
Ansbacher
Posted by: Sway Bar Oct 27 2021, 08:29 PM
I like the idea of no crest or even lettering. Those that are in the know, know. Those that want to learn can ask.
However, I do find some comfort in the confusion on some in having this badge
However, it's a nice big square hood and the crest does look great nicely placed.
Be it NARP, Porsche, VW, or whatever purist form, it can't be any worse than when I go to coffee and cars and there is that 'guy' in the new Porsche that kinda looks like this
Posted by: windforfun Oct 27 2021, 08:39 PM
You don't see this badge placement very often but I love it! So subtle ...I've been told that the crest is special as well.
All the best,
gg
Why is the 914 cluster running up hill?
Posted by: windforfun Oct 27 2021, 08:41 PM
Hey look!! its a bargain at only 80 bucks for the sticker!!!
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-porsche-parts/porsche-crest-hood-badge-decal/99655921190/
I mean you could probably print your own but then Porsche would sue you back to the point of never wanting to see their logo on anything you own ever again!
Posted by: PCH Oct 28 2021, 03:37 PM
My 71 came badged and I'm glad it did. People always wonder what kind of car it is. They see the badging and see that it is a Porsche 914. Saves me from having to go into the nuanced history of the 914. You know that the minute they get home they will Wiki it.
The badging gets me quicker back to my driving. 
Posted by: NARP74 Oct 28 2021, 03:49 PM
I've got an older Land Rover, badging all over. People still say nice jeep!
Posted by: Shivers Oct 28 2021, 03:58 PM
Mine has factory emblem posts and speed nuts up front. The emblem went walk about. Probably ended up hot glued to a Yugo in El Monte.
Posted by: second wind Oct 28 2021, 04:16 PM
You don't see this badge placement very often but I love it! So subtle ...I've been told that the crest is special as well.
All the best,
gg
Why is the 914 cluster running up hill?
I do not understand your question? Do tell?
Thanks,
gg
Posted by: jims914 Oct 28 2021, 08:53 PM
You don't see this badge placement very often but I love it! So subtle ...I've been told that the crest is special as well.
All the best,
gg
Why is the 914 cluster running up hill?
I do not understand your question? Do tell?
Thanks,
gg
If every one is upset about the hood crest then i wounder what they think about putting the crest from a 356 hood handle to the horn pad ???
Posted by: Krieger Oct 28 2021, 11:22 PM
The correct answer is way too obvious. Own two 914s. One car has a badge. The other doesn't 
Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 29 2021, 05:47 AM
What is a carburetor? Is that like a light bulb or vacuum tube?
It's a perfume atomizer.......
Non-sequitur, but... I've always felt this was the wrong comparison. Isn't a perfume atomizer way more akin to a fuel injector? Since it takes a positive force to push out the fuel? (As opposed to a carb, where vacuum pressure pulls out the fuel.)
Nope, not the wrong comparison. The perfume atomizer was the inspiration for the first carburetor.
It is not positive pressure, but negative pressure. A perfume atomizer passes air through a venturi drawing the perfume up from the bowl and mixing it into the passing air. (Sound familiar???).
In 1885, Wilhelm Maybach and Gottlieb Daimler developed a float carburetor based on the atomizer nozzle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburetor)
Clay
Posted by: Jett Oct 29 2021, 09:21 AM
What is a carburetor? Is that like a light bulb or vacuum tube?
It's a perfume atomizer.......
Non-sequitur, but... I've always felt this was the wrong comparison. Isn't a perfume atomizer way more akin to a fuel injector? Since it takes a positive force to push out the fuel? (As opposed to a carb, where vacuum pressure pulls out the fuel.)
Nope, not the wrong comparison. The perfume atomizer was the inspiration for the first carburetor.
It is not positive pressure, but negative pressure. A perfume atomizer passes air through a venturi drawing the perfume up from the bowl and mixing it into the passing air. (Sound familiar???).
In 1885, Wilhelm Maybach and Gottlieb Daimler developed a float carburetor based on the atomizer nozzle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburetor)
Clay
Love it! I do this mapping all the time
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 29 2021, 09:57 AM
Probably has a lot to do with experiences as well. Had something with a hood badge, coulda been a 911 or 944 or something. Thieves mangled the paint and hood to get the badge off. This was some 25+ years ago, made me wish no P-car I owned had a badge.
My current 914 doesn't have one, won't be putting one on.
That said, they do look nice on a 914.
Posted by: mmichalik Oct 29 2021, 10:33 AM
My '75 had a badge on it when I got it. Once I started the restoration, I filled in the holes and removed it.
It also had A/C in it and I removed that as well. (you'd be amazed and how much structural integrity was gained when I welded in the replacement piece from RD)
I'm not nuts on the subject but, I did want my car to be factory correct, if not dealership correct.
My '74 does not have one.
Posted by: TomE Oct 29 2021, 12:09 PM
One thing I have noticed is that they are all Volkswagens until you go to buy parts. Then they become a Porsche!
Posted by: Van B Oct 29 2021, 12:31 PM
One thing I have noticed is that they are all Volkswagens until you go to buy parts. Then they become a Porsche!
Tom, this is a truly relevant observation
Posted by: bbrock Oct 29 2021, 04:14 PM
That said, they do look nice on a 914.
And that's the real problem. As was said earlier, the front of a 914 is a big blank canvas and the Porsche crest is probably the most beautiful hood badge there is. I don't have a badge on my car, but it would look SOooo good with one on there.
Posted by: Craigers17 Oct 29 2021, 04:27 PM
When have you gone to far?
You wanted emotional and irrational......
Posted by: Van B Oct 29 2021, 04:43 PM
When have you gone to far?
You wanted emotional and irrational......
Yes Sir, and we thank you for it! That second photo might be the greatest thing on the front of a car, EVER!!!
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 29 2021, 05:23 PM
I beg to differ ...
Posted by: Sea Rooster Oct 29 2021, 05:30 PM
So what's the correct placement from the tip of the hood?
4, 6, 8 inches?
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Posted by: Van B Oct 29 2021, 06:51 PM
So what's the correct placement from the tip of the hood?
4, 6, 8 inches?
I think we all know that answer. You’ll put it 6” and then tell her it’s 8”
Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 29 2021, 08:17 PM
I think I get it now. To be a member of the club that honors the tradition of not being welcomed to the other club, and was created by the botched marketing of a brilliantly engineered car - I can swap any engine I like into the chassis EXCEPT electric motors, and it is cool to install any period correct option or accessory available from the dealer EXCEPT the hood badge. Do I have that right?
No.
The only acceptable engine is aircooled. Others are tolerated, but, we all know the only proper motor is air cooled. Glad to be able clear that up.
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
Dangit! I'm out of the "out of the club" club. Guess it's off to the NARNARP club for me.
You sound confused about your orientation.
Posted by: fixer34 Oct 29 2021, 08:38 PM
Well, if anyone has a hood badge that they feel they no longer want, I'll take it off your hands... I had the frunk hood replaced about 30 yrs ago due to a minor front end hit that buckled it. The one that was installed has 2 holes about where the badge would go and I never got around to doing anything with it. So I'm the guy in the middle-no badge, but 2 unsightly holes. This thread has motivated me to change that situation...
Now first choice would have been the one in the blue (although she is probably my age now), but she probably wouldn't be happy sitting in an unheated garage all winter, and I'm pretty sure the wife wouldn't be either...
Posted by: eric9144 Nov 1 2021, 01:03 PM
No badge for me and also remove the rear grill lettering. Not many people around know what a 914 is anyway.
When i was 16 I was all about the badging, but being in SoCal with all the pinky lifting 911 owners I heard all the trash talk on 914's to the point where it got really old... Thankfully my ego wasn't tied to that and I actually started embracing the NARP thing even more, because I realized how much they underestimated the 914.
Fast forward to my current 914, flared, twinplug 3.8, no hood badge, no grill letters, somewhat of an enigma to the uninitiated and that's how I like it
I don't think you'll get anyone bashing for badges per say, unelss it's something garishly overdone like on the sail panels, that being said, to each their own--if it's faux pas to assume someone's gender then I'm not going to assume your 914's manufacture origin either
Posted by: Van B Nov 1 2021, 01:55 PM
No badge for me and also remove the rear grill lettering. Not many people around know what a 914 is anyway.
When i was 16 I was all about the badging, but being in SoCal with all the pinky lifting 911 owners I heard all the trash talk on 914's to the point where it got really old... Thankfully my ego wasn't tied to that and I actually started embracing the NARP thing even more, because I realized how much they underestimated the 914.
Fast forward to my current 914, flared, twinplug 3.8, no hood badge, no grill letters, somewhat of an enigma to the uninitiated and that's how I like it
I don't think you'll get anyone bashing for badges per say, unelss it's something garishly overdone like on the sail panels, that being said, to each their own--if it's faux pas to assume someone's gender then I'm not going to assume your 914's manufacture origin either
A real veteran of the SoCal culture wars right here fellas
Posted by: Rick986 Nov 1 2021, 02:47 PM
I beg to differ ...
YES!!!
Posted by: windforfun Nov 1 2021, 02:55 PM
Who needs a badge? Dirty Harry never used his. Keep it simply stock.
Posted by: eric9144 Nov 1 2021, 05:13 PM
A real veteran of the SoCal culture wars right here fellas
Haha, the Stories are way better when the runt becomes the champion.
TTOD guys at the PCA Auto-X's were always 914's and the kicker was, the guy to beat was a big 4 and not even a 6 so they could feel good about themselves.
Posted by: Jamie Nov 1 2021, 06:05 PM
Non-sequitur, but... I've always felt this was the wrong comparison. Isn't a perfume atomizer way more akin to a fuel injector? Since it takes a positive force to push out the fuel? (As opposed to a carb, where vacuum pressure pulls out the fuel.)
You're making too much sense man! Haven't you read Plato's allegory of the cave?
As a schooled Philosopher, the Allegory of the Cave theme was more about form than function.
Posted by: Ansbacher Nov 1 2021, 06:09 PM
Exactly, except that adding carburetors is also off limits.
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Yeah, I'm one of those dual carb guys and I don't lose sleep at night when my car hiccups, dreading a trouble-shooting nightmare of a fifty-year-old fuel injection system.
Carbs are simple, easy to maintain, no electronics, and few moving parts.
Oh, and +1 for hood crests as long as they are placed esthetically (or is it aesthetically).
Ansbacher
Posted by: Van B Nov 1 2021, 09:42 PM
Non-sequitur, but... I've always felt this was the wrong comparison. Isn't a perfume atomizer way more akin to a fuel injector? Since it takes a positive force to push out the fuel? (As opposed to a carb, where vacuum pressure pulls out the fuel.)
You're making too much sense man! Haven't you read Plato's allegory of the cave?
As a schooled Philosopher, the Allegory of the Cave theme was more about form than function.
Oh Sir, the allegory of the cave was actually about how people will murder you if you tell them things they don’t want to hear… so don’t murder me ok?
Posted by: VegasRacer Nov 1 2021, 10:48 PM
After thinking about this topic for a week now . . . 
. . . 
. . . I honestly have no opinion either way. 
Badge or No Badge. I really don't care. ![yellowsleep[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
Whatever gets you thru the night.
However, I have always considered the engine grill letters to be one of my favorite design details on a 914. 
*(Full disclosure: Elvira came with hood piercings and Badge jewelry.)
**(I added the nipple rings.)
Posted by: VegasRacer Nov 1 2021, 11:14 PM
I beg to differ ...
You are correct @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=26011 
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