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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 26 2023, 04:04 PM

https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles/po23_001/1971-porsche-914-6-m471

Posted by: Bullethead Mar 26 2023, 04:32 PM

Wow.

Posted by: dirk2056 Mar 26 2023, 04:37 PM

How many of the 23 original M 471 are still available/exist? George might be one of the best authorities.

Posted by: URY914 Mar 26 2023, 05:34 PM

The car was at the Amelia action but was on display only.

Posted by: URY914 Mar 26 2023, 05:36 PM

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Posted by: mepstein Mar 26 2023, 05:51 PM

Pretty. What color blue?

Posted by: poorsche914 Mar 26 2023, 05:54 PM

Several years ago before these were half-million-dollar cars

Posted by: poorsche914 Mar 26 2023, 05:55 PM

Gemini Blue

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 26 2023, 06:52 PM

Chance to own a piece of history. Very nice M471.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Mar 26 2023, 06:57 PM

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=364166


https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo21/monterey/lots/r0169-1971-porsche-9146-m471/1131361

Posted by: Quinn Moore Mar 26 2023, 07:33 PM

Unbelievable. Except, there it is.quite spectacular. Kudos to Autoatlanta. Mr. Hussey!.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 27 2023, 05:54 AM

OOPS!!

Not original.....

Black headlight surrounds were not on a 70. They were not available until 1973.

Posted by: carr914 Mar 27 2023, 06:03 AM

Had different wider Fuchs than it does now. It looks weird now with the big gap between tire and flare in the rear

Posted by: DRPHIL914 Mar 27 2023, 06:14 AM

this is George's former car that he brought to Okteenerfest 5-6 years back!! Also i ran into him and his wife on sunday during the concours, after having seen the car at the BroadArrow booth on saturday, he was surprised to see it out there so soon after being bought from him. I didnt know he had sold it, I thought this was the car that he would keep. i first saw it at the Hilton Head Island Concours when they first showed it afte completion aobut 5 years or so back, It won class as did Steve G's 914/4 in its class( if you dont know that red car pictured by Steve above in the same picture was also Steve's M471 car and it also is back up for sale i believe in Europe)

Maybe George will chime in here when he sees the thread, hey George it was good to see you out and about at Amelia.

Phil

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 27 2023, 06:43 AM

"the consignor conducted a thorough review of the car, focusing on the details to return it to a condition closely resembling how it left the factory 52 years ago".

looks like the consignor got his tits in a tangle over the cigarette lighter too.
i mean you know, who wants to get picky, but it is half a mil.



whats with the stoopid tyres?
i was gonna comment on the front sway bar. but who knows.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 27 2023, 06:50 AM

For a car that was in the hands of an expert for many years......who has every resource.
There is a list.

Documentation ? $450. oil change

Posted by: carr914 Mar 27 2023, 06:54 AM

SMG's M471 is not Red - it's Tangerine

Posted by: DRPHIL914 Mar 27 2023, 06:56 AM

i knew than andwas going to correct that after i typed it but left it to see who would be first to correnct me, you win

Posted by: TROJANMAN Mar 27 2023, 07:01 AM

It's a Resto-Mod

Posted by: orthobiz Mar 27 2023, 07:55 AM

I also liked the writeup. They didn't go through a two paragraph generic history of the 914, the writeup we've all read 1000 times.

Paul

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 27 2023, 09:27 AM

It is an absolutely beautiful car.
I'd love to have it.

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 27 2023, 12:26 PM

I thought the M471's came with wider rims? Those Fuchs could be stock to the 914, looks a little goofy.

Posted by: flipb Mar 27 2023, 01:56 PM

Clearly riding on narrower rims now than in the photo from a few years ago.

Posted by: Gustl Mar 27 2023, 02:53 PM

M471 cars originally came with 185/70 VR 15 on 6Jx15 Fuchs in combination with wheel spacers

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 27 2023, 03:36 PM

missing the spacers?
agree with @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2105 - is goofy the way it is now.
if your going to put the original size wheels and rubber back on you should at least go full pedant or go home?

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 27 2023, 03:45 PM

There is (or was) a real M471 here in New Jersey that looked a bit scruffy,
much like the silver one pictured.
I saw it probably 15 years ago at a PCA event

Posted by: fixer34 Mar 27 2023, 05:24 PM

Not to be picky also, but on a half-million car..
I wouldn't expect to see a spot of rust anywhere..
Calipers should be redone to factory finish.
chipped/flaked paint on the engine underside air baffles.
Was the front suspension significantly different? The panel that protects the steerig rack and master cylinder doesn't look right; it only has 2 bolts.

I agree, the rear wheels look 'lost' in the flares.

Sadly, as a car that was originally sold specifically for racing, this one will spend the rest of it's life as a garage queen, only trotted out for shows.

Posted by: BillJ Mar 27 2023, 07:09 PM

I agree in general but rarity and desirability is everything. This car sold for $230k and i think i spy some rust lol




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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 27 2023, 07:44 PM

Sold as a Body Mod... no other GT features.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Mar 27 2023, 07:59 PM

It looks like the current owner went with a narrower set of tires. The stock photo in the other link looks like a different tread pattern, with wider tires.



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Posted by: wonkipop Mar 27 2023, 08:50 PM

that was 230,00 pesos (aus $) not greenbacks.
approx 150K USD.

sure was rusty though. saw that car.
aussie rust but.

some one did their maths on that one and figured out it was worth it.
and it probably was. it was all there. rusty or not. there was profit in it.
and income.

there is a speedster down here. a right hand drive delivered.
all original. and i mean original. its not restored apart from mechanical upkeep.
beautifully faded. reportedly changed hands last at a mil aud. it never goes up for auction when it switches owners. i've seen it once or twice. some rich chinese dude owns it at present. nice enough guy. brings it out to coffee runs occasionally.
no trailer queen. gets driven to its outings.

Posted by: Brian Fuerbach Mar 27 2023, 09:31 PM

Beautiful 914. Were sway bars part of the M471 package? The front sway bar appears not to be through body. Is this correct?

Posted by: BillJ Mar 27 2023, 10:14 PM

Strange. Article said Dollars
https://www.motorious.com/articles/news/porsche-barn-find-ludicrous-price/

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 28 2023, 01:52 AM

you think you are the only country in the world with dollars?

the government here calls it a dollar. the locals (me and others) refer to it as the peso . if you deploy your sense of humor you will understand the vernacular.

its not even a bill anymore, its a coin.
the paper notes were gorgeous.





the oxidised 356 was sold here in aus at shannons.
at an auction i attended.
with aussie buyers. the auctioneer called it in a broad australian accent.
the car is right hand drive.
the article you probably read was an australian article.

yes we are another country that has a currency called the..................dollar!!!!!!

it sold for 150 thou of your greenback dollars.
there is a conversion rate you can access on google.
if you think about it, given 356 values for certain cars etc thats probably about right.
it will return a profit after restoration when its sold again.
the $ in the end are the same, here or USA. there is a potential sale price for a finished restored car which dictates how much the chicken shed find wreck is worth.

and just to upset your cultural supremacy even more!
austalia was the first export market for porsches.
we even beat you guys to it.
check the history.
there is a lot of very very very early 356s here.

but no 914s. officially.
except one special one.
.......maybe.
who knows.
its all above my pay grade.

ps if you look closely at the oxidised 356 you will notice lots of very special things about it. check the wheels. some other clues. and while aussies might whinge about the rust, its mostly surface oxidisation on that car, not your version of savage salt rust - terminal cancer. its more like a desert scorched car in your neck of the woods.

but i'm going to agree with original poster.
any one calling half a mil of gen-yu-whine greenbacks on a 914/6 - well you don't want to see any rust.
esp bubbles under the paint. esp around the door handle area.

Posted by: BillJ Mar 28 2023, 06:54 AM

Ok ok ok lol

Posted by: carr914 Mar 28 2023, 07:05 AM

It was too easy for me as SMG's car has been at my house, in my garage, I R&R the engine, etc. I also bought the seats that came with the car to Steve ( he replaced with Factory seats)

Posted by: BillJ Mar 28 2023, 08:05 AM

Really love those seats with pepita. Sooooooo nice. If i ever convert back to street car that is what will go in.

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 28 2023, 10:59 AM

Agree with others, don't like being picky on such a beautiful 914, but for $500k+, you'd think the trim around the radio would be tucked in correctly. The screws on the gauge bezel would be painted and not look like they were removed with an incorrect Phillip's driver etc.

I see it so much, $50k paint job, lots of parts replaced, looks like a new car until you get closer. This 914 would never pass the 356 guys sniff test.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 28 2023, 12:21 PM

I saw my car at Amelia and was sad at how down hill it had gone since I owned it, people trying to do things they should not have, rough treatment, and everything everyone else has mentioned.

I actually used to run that car at road atlanta, so installed factory 16 front and 15 rear sway bars and seven and 8 fuchs with the correct 21mm wheel spacers even though it came with sixes. So as one comment back then, it was a "resto mod" for example I LIKED the black headlight surrounds!!!!
Somethng happened to the right seat cushion and a poor job done in restitching, they tried to do someting to the paint and it had some kind of a reaction in some areas.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 28 2023, 12:47 PM

Here is m471 9142430259 I bought and sold about two years ago


seems like all of these m471 cars have had rough treatment over the years, Even the Jerry Slick car

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 28 2023, 12:48 PM

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 28 2023, 12:49 PM

registration


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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 28 2023, 01:26 PM

You should Know You restored it.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 28 2023, 01:33 PM

Just Like Brutus....

Posted by: Aerostatwv Mar 28 2023, 01:35 PM

<heavy sigh>. George, you did the car justice.. it's a shame to see the deterioration.

Posted by: Gustl Mar 28 2023, 02:27 PM

little correction - this is 9142430259

9142430260 is also a M471, but green

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 28 2023, 04:15 PM

Thank you for correcting me, I am getting old and forgetful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the description of 259 we sold:

Factory-Equipped M471 Package 914/6; One of Only 23 Examples Built
Delivered New to Germany Finished in Gemini Blue over Black
Equipped with Desirable Type 911/83 (Carrera 2.7 RS) Engine
Offered with Original Maintenance Booklet, German Registration Records, and COA
Among the Most Desirable of All 914s; A Model Rarely Offered for Public Sale

In addition to the standard four- and six-cylinder models, Porsche developed a few special variants of its 914, the most famous being the competition-prepared 914/6 GT, the exclusive road-going 916, and the experimental eight-cylinder 914/S. Another rare and often overlooked 914 variant was quietly announced in a March 1971 sales bulletin – the Competition Option Group M471.

Intended to homologate the 914/6 for SCCA production-class racing, the M471 package consisted of GT-style steel fender flares, rocker panels, and front valence, as well as 6" x 15" Fuchs wheels, 185/70VR15 tires, longer wheel mounting bolts, and 21 mm spacers. Primarily offered by dealers in kit form, to be installed post-production, the M471 package was also available as a factory option, though it was rarely specified. In fact, just 23 examples of the M471-equipped 914/6 left the Porsche factory during 1971 and 1972.

The Porsche presented here, chassis 9142430259, is among this exclusive group of factory-built M471 914/6s. It is one of eight built during the model’s final year and the second-to-last example produced, the final car being chassis number 0260. According to factory records, this car was originally finished in Gemini Blue (code 8610) with interior trimmed in black leatherette and corduroy inserts. In addition to the rare M471 package, optional equipment included front and rear sway bars, tinted glass, and a center seat cushion.

In June 1972, chassis 0259 was delivered to its first owner, Dr. Gunter Heynen of Rheydt, Germany, who immediately put the 914/6 to good use. As is noted in the original factory-issued maintenance booklet, the Porsche had covered more than 40,000 km during its first year on the road. According to original German registration papers (Kraftfahrzeugbrief), in the mid-1970s, chassis 0259 received several mechanical upgrades, including the fitting of a more powerful fuel-injected 911 S engine, ventilated disc brakes, a front spoiler, and wider 7" and 8" Fuchs wheels.

In September 1981, the owner was Walter Hamacher from Moenchengladbach, Germany (a neighbour city of Rheydt); license plate RY – ND 80
In Aachen the car had two different license plates => AC – VV 67 and the one shown on the auction pics AC – PM 576
When a car gets sold in Germany, normaly the license plate will stay with the OLD owner. Therefore I would guess, that this car had at least two owners from Aachen (AC – …).

Inl 1991, the car was sold to Udo Frey of Aachen, an active member of the German 914/6 Club. During his ownership chassis 0259 was further upgraded with a desirable 911/83 engine, the same type used in the iconic Carrera RS 2.7. In 1994, along with GT auxiliary oil cooler plumbing and thermostat. The M471 was sold to David Hatch of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, shipped to Florida, collected by Mr. Hatch’s agent, Martin Arnaud, and then entrusted to ICI International Inc. of Orlando for federalization.

Since its arrival in the US over 25 years ago, with a short stop here at Automobile Atlanta, this rare Porsche has been kept in static storage and will require a complete servicing before road use. The chassis and frame are straight and rust free, finish in mediocre condition, yet the dash and interior are in remarkably good condition

Offered with a tool kit, German registration plate, and Porsche Certificate of Authenticity, as well as the aforementioned maintenance booklet and registration papers, this Gemini Blue factory-built M471 914/6 presents an exciting opportunity for discerning collectors to acquire one of the most rare and sought-after Porsches of the era.

This car has recently replaced another m-471 GT that Automobile Atlanta sold for $450.000, making this one an extreme bargain at $200.000.

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 28 2023, 07:01 PM

the kiwis have a dollar too.
its because the kiwis and the aussies dumped the english pound when we went decimal in the sixties. we named our new currencies dollars because of our alliance (and general admiration) with the USA post WW2.

Posted by: SKL1 Mar 28 2023, 09:52 PM

Out of the 23 original 471 cars I bet only 200-300 still exist...

Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 29 2023, 02:29 AM

Yup like the 427 Tri-Power Vettes

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 29 2023, 09:57 AM

the italians are building speedsters from old cowl sections!