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Posted by: sixaddict May 1 2023, 05:31 PM

Just got turned on to this stuff.
Limited distribution but worth. The trouble.l.better than PB to the 10th power.
No dog in this hunt
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Posted by: brant May 1 2023, 05:43 PM

Have you used kroil?

Hard to believe anything is better than kroil

Posted by: technicalninja May 1 2023, 06:06 PM

"Pimp Juice" is my go-to now for ferrous metals.

1/2 acetone 1/2 Dexron III

Shake it up before use. The acetone separates during storage.

Works so much better than anything else on ferrous fasteners.

Dissimilar metals? I use wintergreen oil.

You by this on Amazon as an "essential oil"

The wintergreen oil was a tip from military techs servicing aircraft on carriers.

Just imagine...

Every single fastener has multiple dissimilar metals touching each other and it's being used in a "salt" poisoned atmosphere.

Posted by: sixaddict May 1 2023, 07:22 PM

I have not but a tic-tac-toe video co mpared t he two….I believe this won but can’t attest.




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Have you used kroil?

Hard to believe anything is better than kroil
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Posted by: bkrantz May 1 2023, 08:51 PM

QUOTE(brant @ May 1 2023, 05:43 PM) *

Have you used kroil?

Hard to believe anything is better than kroil



Kroll is the man!

Posted by: bkrantz May 1 2023, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(brant @ May 1 2023, 05:43 PM) *

Have you used kroil?

Hard to believe anything is better than kroil



Kroll is the man!

Posted by: VaccaRabite May 2 2023, 05:10 AM

QUOTE(technicalninja @ May 1 2023, 08:06 PM) *

"Pimp Juice" is my go-to now for ferrous metals.

1/2 acetone 1/2 Dexron III

Shake it up before use. The acetone separates during storage.

Works so much better than anything else on ferrous fasteners.

Dissimilar metals? I use wintergreen oil.

You by this on Amazon as an "essential oil"

The wintergreen oil was a tip from military techs servicing aircraft on carriers.

Just imagine...

Every single fastener has multiple dissimilar metals touching each other and it's being used in a "salt" poisoned atmosphere.


Yup. Acetone and ATF has been my go-to for years. Way better then Kroil.

Zach

Posted by: Superhawk996 May 2 2023, 07:17 AM

QUOTE(technicalninja @ May 1 2023, 08:06 PM) *


Dissimilar metals? I use wintergreen oil.

You by this on Amazon as an "essential oil"

The wintergreen oil was a tip from military techs servicing aircraft on carriers.

Just imagine...

Every single fastener has multiple dissimilar metals touching each other and it's being used in a "salt" poisoned atmosphere.

Can’t imagine the military using anything other than $1000/can Mil-spec stuff. Hell; I used to have the recipe for MRE brownies - it was something like a mind numbing 80 26 pages (still out there on the web).

Now don’t get me wrong, I’ve never tried wintergreen oil. But, I will give it a try!

I’m also not saying some yahoo isn’t putting wintergreen oil purchased off Amazon from the Chinese, putting it in a can, and slapping a MIL-Spec label on it and then selling it to military procurement av-943.gif

Posted by: brant May 2 2023, 07:26 AM

Going to try the wintergreen also
Ordered it last night
Thanks for the tip

Posted by: NARP74 May 2 2023, 08:05 AM

This needs a shootout style competition. I just read about Free All being good, from amazon. I have usually been less than impressed with blaster, which is available everywhere, and wd40 never did much for me either.

Posted by: technicalninja May 2 2023, 08:26 AM

makes your shop smell like Christmas!

I found an "off prescription" use of the wintergreen oil this last winter.

I ended up with a "puss" catapillar infestation on the bush by my shops front door.

I always called these things "asps" as they can still the crap out of you.

These critters have poison "hairs" like a jellyfish.

I've never seen more than one before and my bush had hundreds!

They ate more than 1/3 of the foliage in a very short time.

These things are hard to kill and eradicate.

They make a special "BT" poison that works great but took 8 days to get here.

The internet said "essential oils like peppermint can be a pesticide."

I didn't have peppermint but the wintergreen oil made them MELT in about 20 seconds...

It's MAGICAL on killing caterpillars...

A single drop is all you need!

Posted by: DennisV May 2 2023, 08:34 AM

QUOTE(brant @ May 1 2023, 04:43 PM) *

Have you used kroil?

Hard to believe anything is better than kroil

I used Kroil for a long time, but switched to https://seafoamworks.com/product/deep-creep-penetrating-oil/ after my dad showed it to me. It really does foam up a bit and clings to surfaces better than Kroil. Which is helpful if you have something other than a horizontal surface.

I'm sure everyone has a favorite, and there is probably a 10 page argument on Garage Journal somewhere. I don't have a dog in the hunt. Just sharing.

Posted by: technicalninja May 2 2023, 08:45 AM

I use a shit ton of WD40.

I call it my dis-assembly fluid. All plastic pop clips and any electrical connection will come apart much easier and be re-usable. It is the proper lubricant for the internal seals in a weather pack style fitting.

WD40 doesn't damage stuff like the pimp juice will.

I don't use it for assembly, but it is integral to my work.

I don't use it at all for jammed fasteners in metals...

Posted by: eeyore May 2 2023, 09:43 AM

Even though I find this slightly better than anecdotal, it is interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUEob2oAKVs

Posted by: NARP74 May 2 2023, 10:01 AM

QUOTE(eeyore @ May 2 2023, 09:43 AM) *

Even though I find this slightly better than anecdotal, it is interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUEob2oAKVs

Not the result I was expecting

Posted by: brant May 2 2023, 10:04 AM

I've never had good luck with liquid wrench though....

Posted by: rhodyguy May 2 2023, 10:13 AM

Amazon. I NEVER read the positive reviews. The straight poop is in the ones that usually describe the numerous flaws and shoddy quality.

How much lacquer thinner do you buy at a time? A gallon? AeroKroil is a great product. Convenient spray can. No mix, no mess, no nitrile gloves. Like most penetrants it can take time and multiple applications.

Water Displacement formula #40.

Posted by: StarBear May 2 2023, 11:13 AM

QUOTE(eeyore @ May 2 2023, 11:43 AM) *

Even though I find this slightly better than anecdotal, it is interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUEob2oAKVs

A worthwhile video and well-done experiment. Not exhaustive, for sure, but good technique. Thanks!

Posted by: 76-914 May 2 2023, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(technicalninja @ May 2 2023, 07:45 AM) *

I use a shit ton of WD40.

I call it my dis-assembly fluid. All plastic pop clips and any electrical connection will come apart much easier and be re-usable. It is the proper lubricant for the internal seals in a weather pack style fitting.

WD40 doesn't damage stuff like the pimp juice will.

I don't use it for assembly, but it is integral to my work.

I don't use it at all for jammed fasteners in metals...

Good to know!

Posted by: sixaddict May 3 2023, 05:27 PM

Help.
Two STUCK studs.
Used heat, special Collette tool, impact wrench and tapping.
3 days still no luck.
Ideas?..

Posted by: blabla914 May 3 2023, 05:44 PM

QUOTE(sixaddict @ May 3 2023, 03:27 PM) *

Help.
Two STUCK studs.
Used heat, special Collette tool, impact wrench and tapping.
3 days still no luck.
Ideas?..


What are the studs in? If they are head studs I've always found it hard to put enough heat on a head stud. I mean the head is designed to dissipate heat right?

I've only had luck with acetylene or welding a nut right onto the stud. If you are using a MIG setup for sheet metal with like 0.023 wire you need to really crank it up.

Do it along with copious amounts of penetrating oil. Have plenty of ventilation and be prepared for some fires. Plan on a mess.

Good Luck

Kelly

Posted by: brant May 3 2023, 05:53 PM

Recently pulled a Jeep 4.0 head that was cooked and nasty
Nothing would budge them
Until my neighbor taught me a trick


TIG machine
No filler or tungsten
Hold the torch on the top of the stud until the stud glows red
All of the heat is concentrated on the stud
They all came out after this. Easily

Posted by: sixaddict May 3 2023, 07:53 PM

QUOTE(brant @ May 3 2023, 03:53 PM) *

Recently pulled a Jeep 4.0 head that was cooked and nasty
Nothing would budge them
Until my neighbor taught me a trick


TIG machine
No filler or tungsten
Hold the torch on the top of the stud until the stud glows red
All of the heat is concentrated on the stud
They all came out after this. Easily


Posted by: sixaddict May 3 2023, 07:54 PM

10-4

Worth a shot


QUOTE(sixaddict @ May 3 2023, 05:53 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ May 3 2023, 03:53 PM) *

Recently pulled a Jeep 4.0 head that was cooked and nasty
Nothing would budge them
Until my neighbor taught me a trick


TIG machine
No filler or tungsten
Hold the torch on the top of the stud until the stud glows red
All of the heat is concentrated on the stud
They all came out after this. Easily



Posted by: sixaddict May 4 2023, 06:46 AM

Finally got them…very last one broke…. headbang.gif
I’m sure machine shop will be able to get what’s left out.

Posted by: DennisV May 4 2023, 07:52 AM

QUOTE(brant @ May 3 2023, 04:53 PM) *

TIG machine
No filler or tungsten
Hold the torch on the top of the stud until the stud glows red
All of the heat is concentrated on the stud
They all came out after this. Easily

Interesting! learn something new every day... welder.gif

Posted by: 930cabman May 4 2023, 07:58 AM

QUOTE(DennisV @ May 4 2023, 07:52 AM) *

QUOTE(brant @ May 3 2023, 04:53 PM) *

TIG machine
No filler or tungsten
Hold the torch on the top of the stud until the stud glows red
All of the heat is concentrated on the stud
They all came out after this. Easily

Interesting! learn something new every day... welder.gif


I have also found heat to be the best at loosening rusted/stuck threaded fasteners. Thanks for the great TIG tip

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