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Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 06:41 PM

I don't get it, trying to access the brake switch at the pedal removed nuts holding cardboard kick panel wont come out because some frigging thing I have no idea what it is is riveted to the kick board..

Please advise...

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Posted by: Steve May 21 2024, 06:49 PM

That pedal stop is just riveted to the board. It does not hold the board down. Did you remove the left side hold down Allen bolt? It looks the same as the right side. The carpet might be hiding it.

Posted by: Spoke May 21 2024, 06:50 PM

There's a couple of bolts on each end of the pedal board holding the board to the chassis. That riveted piece is to limit how far the accelerator can be pressed. Once the bolts are out, you have to shimmy the board around the brake and clutch pedals.

It may help too to remove the 2 bolts holding the accelerator pedal to the floor.

Posted by: wonkipop May 21 2024, 06:52 PM

even your pedal board has been frankenstiened mate and given a club foot.
a PO has arsed about the hold down clips.
that one should be on gas pedal side.
and the other one on clutch pedal side.
it should wind out i believe.

its been 30 odd years since i dealt with a left hand drive one so forgive me,
got a right hand drive 914. a bit different.

but that one has been farked with.

or are those photos back to front or something?

Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 06:54 PM

I removed one allen bolt and two 10mm nuts is there another allen I missed behind the accelerator pedal? I just pushed the carpet out of the way maybe I missed it? the bracket that I think is suppose to be with the switch was just laying there on the floor..


QUOTE(Steve @ May 21 2024, 06:49 PM) *

That pedal stop is just riveted to the board. It does not hold the board down. Did you remove the left side hold down Allen bolt? It looks the same as the right side. The carpet might be hiding it.

Posted by: wonkipop May 21 2024, 06:58 PM

ah yeah. those photos are back to front. somehow.

there should be a hold down fitting off to the right of that gas pedal stop.
or your tangled up in carpet. its a bit of a wriggle job to get the board out.
helps to take the rubber pads off the pedals to do the extraction.


Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 06:59 PM

sorry my phone was screwing up its upside down view, its just the way the pic came out, I dont think its farkened with looks pretty original to me but i'm no Porsche expert but have had a ton of VW's and you can tell when its farkened with

QUOTE(wonkipop @ May 21 2024, 06:52 PM) *

even your pedal board has been frankenstiened mate and given a club foot.
a PO has arsed about the hold down clips.
that one should be on gas pedal side.
and the other one on clutch pedal side.
it should wind out i believe.

its been 30 odd years since i dealt with a left hand drive one so forgive me,
got a right hand drive 914. a bit different.

but that one has been farked with.

or are those photos back to front or something?


Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 07:02 PM

I'll revisit it in the am its too dark now, sorry the pics came out upside down...

I just thought that riveted thing was my hold up..Thanks

QUOTE(wonkipop @ May 21 2024, 06:58 PM) *

ah yeah. those photos are back to front. somehow.

there should be a hold down fitting off to the right of that gas pedal stop.
or your tangled up in carpet. its a bit of a wriggle job to get the board out.
helps to take the rubber pads off the pedals to do the extraction.


Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 07:04 PM

Thanks, make more sense now will retry in the am when less frustrated by the unknown but hey I'm willing to learn.. thanks for the help..

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 21 2024, 06:50 PM) *

There's a couple of bolts on each end of the pedal board holding the board to the chassis. That riveted piece is to limit how far the accelerator can be pressed. Once the bolts are out, you have to shimmy the board around the brake and clutch pedals.

It may help too to remove the 2 bolts holding the accelerator pedal to the floor.


Posted by: wonkipop May 21 2024, 07:09 PM

QUOTE(thecleanoutking @ May 21 2024, 07:02 PM) *

I'll revisit it in the am its too dark now, sorry the pics came out upside down...

I just thought that riveted thing was my hold up..Thanks

QUOTE(wonkipop @ May 21 2024, 06:58 PM) *

ah yeah. those photos are back to front. somehow.

there should be a hold down fitting off to the right of that gas pedal stop.
or your tangled up in carpet. its a bit of a wriggle job to get the board out.
helps to take the rubber pads off the pedals to do the extraction.



pop the gas pedal off its little ball fitting and rod. get it out of the way if you have not already done so.

good luck. all part of the fun. i notice you have a console in the car. thats probably in the way too. i have a little bin type console. i always have to take it out first to go for pedal board surgery. beerchug.gif beerchug.gif

Posted by: Superhawk996 May 21 2024, 07:13 PM

That picture is making my head hurt. How does a photo get mirrored like that? A negative I understand. A digital picture confused24.gif

Posted by: wonkipop May 21 2024, 07:16 PM

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ May 21 2024, 07:13 PM) *

That picture is making my head hurt. How does a photo get mirrored like that? A negative I understand. A digital picture confused24.gif


glad it did your head in too. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
it really bamboozled me as i drive a RHD 914.
i wondered what the fark i was looking at for a minute.
had someone literally done a mirror rhd conversion with gas pedal in middle of car.
that would be a first and really weird to drive. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif blink.gif

Posted by: Superhawk996 May 21 2024, 07:18 PM

Here is the other attachment over by the gas pedal on the tunnel.
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Posted by: Superhawk996 May 21 2024, 07:24 PM

QUOTE(wonkipop @ May 21 2024, 09:16 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ May 21 2024, 07:13 PM) *

That picture is making my head hurt. How does a photo get mirrored like that? A negative I understand. A digital picture confused24.gif


glad it did your head in too. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
it really bamboozled me as i drive a RHD 914.
i wondered what the fark i was looking at for a minute.
had someone literally done a mirror rhd conversion with gas pedal in middle of car.
that would be a first and really weird to drive. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif blink.gif

Would be unique experience for sure.

Like a vintage Indian motorcycle with left hand throttle or Norton with the shifter on the right and inverted 1 up, 3 down. Have to constantly think about what you’re doing. screwy.gif

Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 07:28 PM

arrrg...

SO sorry everyone about the upside down pic, my phone wouldn't switch back to front view took it kind of blindly, backwards upside down..

Thanks for the advice makes sense to get all that stuff out of the way just tried to go the easy route..



QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ May 21 2024, 07:18 PM) *

Here is the other attachment over by the gas pedal on the tunnel.
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Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 08:19 PM

Ok guys so sorry again went out and took a couple more pics as to not drive anyone else crazy..

About the 3rd pic isn't this brake bracket part of the brake switch was just laying on the floor???Attached Image Attached ImageAttached Image

Posted by: FlacaProductions May 21 2024, 08:28 PM

that's the clutch pedal hard stop.

when you finally get the board loose, take the rubber covers off of the brake and clutch and it'll make it easier to wiggle the board out.

Posted by: windforfun May 21 2024, 08:44 PM

IIRC or don't recall correctly, isn't this switch on the master cylinder under the car chassis?

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Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 09:08 PM

I think there are two switches one on the master and one under the brake pedal I thought I'd start there for the no brake light situation..bulbs are good fuses are good



QUOTE(windforfun @ May 21 2024, 08:44 PM) *

IIRC or don't recall correctly, isn't this switch on the master cylinder under the car chassis?

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Posted by: thecleanoutking May 21 2024, 09:10 PM

Thanks thought it looked like a picture I've seen where the brake switch has like a bracket..I'm new to all this ..


QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ May 21 2024, 08:28 PM) *

that's the clutch pedal hard stop.

when you finally get the board loose, take the rubber covers off of the brake and clutch and it'll make it easier to wiggle the board out.


Posted by: windforfun May 21 2024, 09:18 PM

Why would there be two switches?

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Posted by: Steve May 21 2024, 09:45 PM

The one under the pedal board activates the rear brake lights. The one on the master cylinder only actuates the brake light / emergency brake light on the fuel gauge cluster. Don’t confuse the two.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 22 2024, 09:10 AM

You’ll be pleased when the Haynes shows up. The correct orientation of the ‘brake light switch arm’ is shown on P 129 and the adjustment is described. Remove the carpeting that is not glued in. Why fight with it? The master cyl switch is a low brake pressure warning light. Not to be confused with the actual brake light switch.

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