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Posted by: tontonmac Aug 8 2003, 01:29 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3129581.stm

Wednesday, 6 August, 2003



German cars 'not reliable'


"German cars, once famed for their reliability, have been given the thumbs down in a survey by Which? magazine.
Leading brands such as Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz all fared worse in the magazine's annual reliability survey than in recent times.

Less prestigious marques including the US' Ford performed better than in the past, overtaking their German rivals.

Overall, Japanese cars were found to be the most reliable in the survey of 80,000 readers, comparing 138 different models.

Poor

Mercedes-Benz slipped two categories, from best to average, in reliability, according to the survey.

No major German marques has escaped the steady decline we have noticed in recent years

Which magazine spokesperson
BMW trod water in the survey, achieving a disappointing average reliability rating for the fourth consecutive year.

However, Which? readers expressed greater dissatisfaction with Volkswagen cars.

The carmaker, which manufactures leading models such as the Golf and Polo, was downgraded by Which? readers to the poor reliability category.

Two other Volkswagen-owned companies, Seat and Audi, dropped from good to average in the reliability tables, while the sporty Audi TT received one of the magazine's lowest scores for reliability for years.

Overall, no German carmaker managed to make it into either the best or good categories.

"German cars were once known for their solid build-quality and dependability, but it seems no major German marque has escaped the steady decline we have noticed in recent years," a Which? magazine spokesperson said.

American dream


There was better news for US giant Ford, which the survey found has raised its game in recent times.

Most reliable cars
Honda Accord
Honda Jazz
Mazda 323
Nissan X-Trail
Toyota Celica
Source: Which? magazine

Consistently rated poor in the survey from 1998 to 2000, Ford has managed to clamber into the good category, having been rated average last year.

Dominating the top reliability places for both manufacturers and individual car models were the Japanese and other Asian makers, with Honda, Hyundai, Lexus, Mazda, Nissan and Toyota all in the best category for maker-reliability."


Dere is to many Germans who dink in an old-fashioned way. Dey need to refo'm mo'e and become mo'e broad-minded. De old ways duzn't wo'k no mo'. Dey should let in mo'e educated folks dere country regain dere greatness.

tonton

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 8 2003, 01:35 PM

Posted by: tontonmac Aug 8 2003, 01:38 PM

Are ya' makin' fun uh my accent man? Dere is laws against dat I'm fine sho'!

Posted by: #1RAGE Aug 8 2003, 04:40 PM

Funny they didn't mention Porsche at all. Porsche cars are way up there on the reliability list according to J.D. Power and Associates.

http://www.jdpa.com/studies/pressrelease.asp?StudyID=749&CatID=1

Posted by: tryan Aug 8 2003, 04:52 PM

electronic gizmos have a lot to do with owner satisfaction. reboot and go on.


f a bunch of far east stuff. not my cup of tea, but good mule/school bus appliances.

i like the cars from graz.

Posted by: Anton Aug 8 2003, 04:52 PM

Did they mention 30 year old Porsches too?

Posted by: redshift Aug 8 2003, 04:55 PM

Ford? Ford? Don't they own all the other makers mentioned as crap?

Whogivesafuck? Magazine?



M

Posted by: redshift Aug 8 2003, 04:56 PM