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Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 12 2006, 11:21 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-911-911-8-2-Litre-V8-Porsche-911-Targa_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10156QQitemZ4620635281QQrdZ1
Posted by: bd1308 Mar 12 2006, 11:27 PM
gross
wtf is with that "clever disguise" thing?
ug....next!
b
Posted by: Bruce Allert Mar 12 2006, 11:27 PM
THAT's Nice 
I'd give not only the right nut but the left one too 
and that engine cover... how cool is that??? 
Spiffy Man............ Spiffy 
........b
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 12 2006, 11:30 PM
you GOTTA give him kudos for how clever he is... the mid engine monster with "gentlemen's luggage"...
Posted by: bd1308 Mar 12 2006, 11:31 PM
yes, he does get design kudos.....but that chevy's blaring in his ears all the time.....
but he does have a point, 911 back seats are *USELESS*
b
Posted by: Howard Mar 12 2006, 11:33 PM
Wow!!
Would love to show up at a PCA event with that. 
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Mar 12 2006, 11:34 PM
That is some amazing work. I remember seeing a 911 coupe like that about 20 years ago in a magazine. I suspect the buy it now price is way less than it cost to build.
Bob
Posted by: bd1308 Mar 12 2006, 11:35 PM
i guess a former-sporto car?
b
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 12 2006, 11:43 PM
I'm trying to find a picture of the transaxle alone. Or the caddillac/oldsmobile drivetrain...the obvious question is "will it fit into a 914"....
If you can add limited slip to that transaxle, maybe having an automatic wouldn't be too ridiculous... ...sounds like you CAN'T break it...
Posted by: bd1308 Mar 12 2006, 11:47 PM
one of those constant variable tranny's would be nice too...
caddy's were the first one to do it i believe...had some rediculous cone thing on the engine with a huge belt....
b
Posted by: neo914-6 Mar 12 2006, 11:51 PM
Here ya go Brian...
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Posted by: skline Mar 13 2006, 12:18 AM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Mar 12 2006, 09:27 PM) |
| gross wtf is with that "clever disguise" thing? ug....next! b |
WTF Britt? Your first comment about it is trash and then when others step up and like it, you change your mind?
I am going to contact this guy and go take a look at it. I have a chance to pick up an old 911 for cheap and this could be an interesting conversion. The 911 I am looking at has no engine or trans so it would be perfect.
Posted by: jonwatts Mar 13 2006, 12:33 AM
The valve covers are nice.
Posted by: bondo Mar 13 2006, 12:47 AM
Wow.. what a convoluted drivetrain.. What the heck do you call that? Mid-rear engined?
I like the console.. anyone know what it is?
Posted by: Porcharu Mar 13 2006, 01:18 AM
| QUOTE (Brian Mifsud @ Mar 12 2006, 09:43 PM) |
| I'm trying to find a picture of the transaxle alone. Or the caddillac/oldsmobile drivetrain...the obvious question is "will it fit into a 914".... If you can add limited slip to that transaxle, maybe having an automatic wouldn't be too ridiculous... ...sounds like you CAN'T break it... |
You don't want one of those things in your car. it's a cast iron automatic trans and it sits half under the engine.
Posted by: GS Guy Mar 13 2006, 06:10 AM
I've read the FWD Olds/Caddy transmission alone weighs in around 300+lbs!!! 
It's unbreakable - like a boat anchor 
Posted by: Bruce Allert Mar 13 2006, 08:11 AM
Can you say DYNAFLOW??? 
( 
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My Grampa had an early 50's Buick with a dynaflow tranny. Floor the sucker, engine revs to what sounds like rde line, slooowly creep up to speed. Think that was their first attempt at good gas mileage ...........
in reverse ???????? 
Posted by: ninefourteener Mar 13 2006, 09:55 AM
I gotta give the guy props.... lots of engineering went into that monster... I can't help but wonder if you put on a set of really sticky tires, if it would just wheelie-flip it self over backwards--LOL
That car CAN'T handle well.... a cast-iron Caddy big-block mounted in the rear of a 911??
Can you imagine the understeer?
I scanned through it..... but I don't remember reading anything about beefing up the brakes to compensate for all that extra weight??
Nevertheless...... very cool.....
Go fast...... don't turn
Posted by: bd1308 Mar 13 2006, 10:02 AM
| QUOTE (skline @ Mar 13 2006, 12:18 AM) | ||
WTF Britt? Your first comment about it is trash and then when others step up and like it, you change your mind? I am going to contact this guy and go take a look at it. I have a chance to pick up an old 911 for cheap and this could be an interesting conversion. The 911 I am looking at has no engine or trans so it would be perfect. |
no I still dont like it.
I dont think its smart to have the engine sticking into the cockpit of the car, but the guy gets some points for creativity.
just so we're clear, I would only take it if it were like 500 bucks or something.
b
Posted by: boboli914@att.net Mar 13 2006, 10:07 AM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Mar 13 2006, 08:02 AM) | ||||
no I still dont like it. I dont think its smart to have the engine sticking into the cockpit of the car, but the guy gets some points for creativity. just so we're clear, I would only take it if it were like 500 bucks or something. b |
Posted by: boboli914@att.net Mar 13 2006, 10:13 AM
All you can say is WOW! 
Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 13 2006, 12:11 PM
That's a whole lot of engine!
Posted by: Kargeek Mar 13 2006, 12:24 PM
It's a..."Caddy Under Glass".
I want it for this years PCA concours event.
DH
Posted by: Brad Roberts Mar 13 2006, 12:35 PM
All the SoCal 914 people that attend events for the last 2-3 years have been watching a little VW pickup show up with this same setup it (Dad Roberts)
Dad got the idea from the 911 story ran in Hot Rod or Car Craft back in the late 60's early 70's.
He drives it everywhere. He used the Olds Tornado setup.
B
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 13 2006, 03:51 PM
I'd venture a guess that the weight DISTRIBUTION would actually be not bad...
Taking the center of mass of the engine/transaxle forward quite a bit has GOT to move the CARS center of mass forward with it.
This thing (although very heavy) may actually have pretty NEUTRAL handling....
"All the SoCal 914 people that attend events for the last 2-3 years have been watching a little VW pickup show up with this same setup it (Dad Roberts)"
Brad, got any picks of dad's creation??
I don't care how you shape it... mechanical creativity is always fun to look at.. and you always learn something to boot..
Posted by: byndbad914 Mar 13 2006, 07:55 PM
that just may be the definition of 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag! And I am with Britt on that engine cover 
Carpet to match the rest of the interior would have been just fine. It is interesting, but I think more in that 'serial killer is interesting to a psychologist' sort of way.
Is the p/up Brad mentioned the blue one with scallops and the engine sticking up in the back that was at Joe's BBQ? If so, that one is pretty damn cool!
Posted by: bondo Mar 14 2006, 12:43 AM
| QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ Mar 13 2006, 11:35 AM) |
| All the SoCal 914 people that attend events for the last 2-3 years have been watching a little VW pickup show up with this same setup it (Dad Roberts) Dad got the idea from the 911 story ran in Hot Rod or Car Craft back in the late 60's early 70's. He drives it everywhere. He used the Olds Tornado setup. B |
Cool! I was wondering what trans that was.. I took a look under it at the last R&G and couldn't make heads nor tails of what I was looking at.
Posted by: Porcharu Mar 14 2006, 01:44 AM
| QUOTE (ninefourteener @ Mar 13 2006, 07:55 AM) |
| I gotta give the guy props.... lots of engineering went into that monster... I can't help but wonder if you put on a set of really sticky tires, if it would just wheelie-flip it self over backwards--LOL That car CAN'T handle well.... a cast-iron Caddy big-block mounted in the rear of a 911?? Can you imagine the understeer? I scanned through it..... but I don't remember reading anything about beefing up the brakes to compensate for all that extra weight?? Nevertheless...... very cool..... Go fast...... don't turn |
Actually the Caddy weighs less than a small block chevy.
Posted by: stock93 Mar 14 2006, 04:48 AM
At least someone finally figured out 911's have the engine in the wrong place...
Posted by: ft.lbs. Mar 14 2006, 05:05 PM
I couldn't cut up a 911 like that!Sorry-
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 14 2006, 08:14 PM
| QUOTE (ft.lbs. @ Mar 14 2006, 03:05 PM) |
| I couldn't cut up a 911 like that!Sorry- |
if there is any Porsche that could be cut up.. it's the 911... they built way more of those than 914's......
no loss of "precious resources".
Posted by: byndbad914 Mar 14 2006, 08:27 PM
| QUOTE (Porcharu @ Mar 13 2006, 11:44 PM) |
| Actually the Caddy weighs less than a small block chevy. |
I can't even begin to see how that is possible. Maybe v. a Big Block Chevy but no way v. Small Block. What do you think the 500 c.i. Caddy engine weighs?? Just gut feel, a SBC cranks is roughly 45-50lbs, Big Block anything is most likely over 70lbs, rods are longer in a BB than SB so weigh more, pistons are larger in diameter so weigh more, typically the wrist pins are larger in diam, the block has to be much larger to accomodate the bore spacing... on and on.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 14 2006, 08:37 PM
| QUOTE (byndbad914 @ Mar 14 2006, 07:27 PM) | ||
I can't even begin to see how that is possible. Maybe v. a Big Block Chevy but no way v. Small Block. What do you think the 500 c.i. Caddy engine weighs?? Just gut feel, a SBC cranks is roughly 45-50lbs, Big Block anything is most likely over 70lbs, rods are longer in a BB than SB so weigh more, pistons are larger in diameter so weigh more, typically the wrist pins are larger in diam, the block has to be much larger to accomodate the bore spacing... on and on. |
quit being a playa hater, hate the game, not the playa
this is not converions I'd tackle or try to talk anybody I know into doing, but you got to admit, the thing would be a hoot to go for a ride in.....just make sure you got your ear plugs in cause that sucker has got to be loud
Posted by: byndbad914 Mar 14 2006, 08:41 PM
sorry, no hatin' intended if it was taken that way. Just wondering what the Caddy weighed since I can't imagine how it is lighter and I couldn't find a weight for the engine on Google.
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