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Posted by: J P Stein Mar 18 2006, 08:54 AM

From the latest Pano.
Were you on vacation, Tim?

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Posted by: ! Mar 18 2006, 09:03 AM

It's a slant nose....God is telling them to fix it....

Posted by: Jeroen Mar 18 2006, 09:28 AM

IIRC, that happened quite some time ago already (last year?)
and Tim posted pics of the aftermath...

Posted by: Seagrave Mar 19 2006, 01:42 AM

Bad technique with that extinguisher. This is the before pic but we can't see the after. My bet is he expended the can trying to put it out from there. I gots news for ya, bub. You can't put it out from da outside!!!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 19 2006, 03:54 AM

I've put one of those out from the outside.... The bumper caught because some oil puked onto the turbo and it caught. Got the bumper put out and got enough "agent" onto the turbo without having to open the engine lid. They kept me on watch with the extinguisher in hand, though, just in case. The rest of the crew did clean-up.

The fire was not that big, though!

--DD

Posted by: Randal Mar 19 2006, 11:12 AM

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You can't put it out from da outside!!!

So what is the right way to put a fire like that out?

You know we have (properly charged) extinguishers at the autoX events, but never any instruction on how to use them.

Posted by: DonTraver Mar 19 2006, 12:50 PM

Always shoot towards the base of the flames closest to you, sweep back and forth towards the other side, sort of like washing your driveway. Keep going until it's empty, if one won't put it out, you're pretty well screwed.

Later, Don

Posted by: Mueller Mar 19 2006, 12:55 PM

QUOTE (Seagrave @ Mar 19 2006, 12:42 AM)
Bad technique with that extinguisher. This is the before pic but we can't see the after. My bet is he expended the can trying to put it out from there. I gots news for ya, bub. You can't put it out from da outside!!!

of all people to mention that, what about suppling more oxygen to the fire by opening up the lid??, more access, more fire??

Posted by: J P Stein Mar 19 2006, 01:09 PM

That guy doesn't get paid enuff money to open that lid

Posted by: TimT Mar 19 2006, 01:10 PM

LOL

ya thats our car..

The fire was caused by one of the left side chain tensioners studs pulling. this allowed pressurized oil to spray on the turbocharger. then a nice fireball when he stopped.

The car looked pretty cool dragging a 20' plume of fire though

We Used a Powerwasher we found in the Watkins Glen maintenance shop to wash all the extinguisher schmutz off the car, then cut the well done bodywork off the car, replaced some singed wires, and made the race

http://www.rudtnersracing.com/Videos/start.wmv

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Posted by: TimT Mar 19 2006, 01:11 PM

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Posted by: TimT Mar 19 2006, 01:13 PM

JP, it basically "buffed out"

by removing the whole rear cap, we removed a parachute

Posted by: johannes Mar 19 2006, 05:05 PM

Very impressed by the video. The car is VERY fast !!! .

Posted by: trekkor Mar 19 2006, 06:14 PM

The video was great. You passed 8 cars in the first lap!

love the turbo spooling up

KT

Posted by: tdsmoonchild Mar 19 2006, 07:07 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Mar 19 2006, 06:14 PM)
The video was great. You passed 8 cars in the first lap!

love the turbo spooling up

KT

Posted by: MattR Mar 19 2006, 07:11 PM

Did that car have fire suppression?

Posted by: alpha434 Mar 19 2006, 07:17 PM

JEEZE!!! That video was awesome.

Was it a reverse start or what? (Fastest qualifier in back)

Or did you fail to qualify because your car caught fire. Jeeze that was a quick car.

Turn, spool, pass. Turn, spool, pass.

Awesome

Posted by: TimT Mar 19 2006, 07:34 PM

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Or did you fail to qualify because your car caught fire.

Yes we missed qualifying, because of the fire..

Starting last makes for good video

We have fire supression in the car, however Bill didnt fire it since we knew from the workers it was a turbo fire, didnt want to have to clean the front cockpits and rear of the car. I was on the radio with Bill talking to me in one ear, and the track officials in the other ear..While at speed you could barely see the fire..just like on tv where the announcers say "we think he's on fire" So Bill just stopped at a flag station and they got the fire out within seconds of him stopping.

This year was good for us.. we had some publicity in the club racing news and Pano, some of it good and some bad

Posted by: trekkor Mar 20 2006, 12:05 AM

Bill, you gotta see that video.

KT

Posted by: Mugs914 Mar 20 2006, 12:20 AM

Awsome vid Tim!

Any specs on the car, or is it a secret?

Motor, 'box, weight etc?

Posted by: MattR Mar 20 2006, 12:29 AM

Wow, that car has a little pickup. Its not every day you see another porsche pass a gt3 cup car like it was standing still...

What class does that race in?