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Posted by: Lawrence Oct 19 2003, 06:08 PM

I was browsing Jon Lowe's GT pages... are those cool bumper/hood mounted rally lights still available, OEM or aftermarket?

-Rusty

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 19 2003, 06:11 PM

i don't think they are porsche specific lights.
i had them on my VW-Bug too

Andy

Posted by: Lawrence Oct 19 2003, 06:16 PM

So there's nothing special about them, then? I saw the name "Cibie" on some of the lights.

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 19 2003, 06:22 PM

maybe the guys girl-friend ???

Andy

Posted by: ChrisReale Oct 19 2003, 06:37 PM

Cibie's are the "OEM" light maker for the rally cars. The NOS sets are available from time to time on Ebay, but they want like $700 for a set. I have some Hella 500series that I mounted to the front bumper using the holes where the bumper tits used to be.
Here's a set on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2437385563&category=33709

Posted by: redshift Oct 19 2003, 06:41 PM

Cibies are spensive as hell.

Use big flashlights!



M

Posted by: kdfoust Oct 19 2003, 07:24 PM

Don't waste your time with ebay. Just call this guy:

Gunther
Aardvark Int'l
Work: 562-699-8887
Whittier, CA

They've got a website as well that has most Cibie auxillary lights:
http://www.talbotco.com/cibie_models.htm

Yeah they are expensive but most of them will look period correct on your car.
Good luck,
Kevin

Posted by: Lawrence Oct 19 2003, 08:18 PM

Kevin,

Thanks for the website. Yeah, they're steep.

I found a place that sells chrome trimmed Cibie H-4s for 142.00 each.

http://www.cibielights.com/cibie/oscar/oscar.htm

I want enough light up front that I'll melt the paint off any car in front of me. My plan is to rig the lamps so that the fog lamps run through one switch, and the driving lights run through another. There is a hole for an extra switch on the dash (hidden behind the vinyl) immediately to the right of the steering wheel.

-Rusty

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 19 2003, 08:26 PM

when i took the vinyl off i wondered what that hole might be for. thought it might be for the dash ing switch and the factory never changed the stamping die.

kevin
'hell, just cover it"

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 19 2003, 08:34 PM

i like the oscar sc's better....

Posted by: Lawrence Oct 19 2003, 08:43 PM

Yeah, I wondered, too. Cause there's already a place on the left for ignition, foglight and headlight. On the right, there's a place for the lighter and rear window defroster.

It's just an extra hole, I guess.

-Rusty

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 19 2003, 08:48 PM

remember- early cars had windshield wiper switch on the right

Posted by: ! Oct 19 2003, 09:40 PM

You won;t like it....but there is a thread about them here....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130472

Wayne says he's gonna do some copoes that are cheaper then the bend over NOS ones that are out there.....

Posted by: Lawrence Oct 20 2003, 02:10 PM

Huh? My windshield wiper control is on the steering column.

-Rusty

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 20 2003, 02:13 PM

really? early cars had their widshield wiper switches mounted to the right of the column. they are available but the stalk version is NLA. another hole was used for headlight washers on later cars......

ill see if i can find a pic...be back soon

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 20 2003, 02:16 PM

CORRECTIoN: EARLY 4 cyl cars had them on the dash- see pic below-

also, the rear defroster was on that side.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 20 2003, 02:19 PM

OOPS, pic would be good huh!


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Posted by: synthesisdv Oct 20 2003, 02:23 PM

I bought this set of cibie's on e-bay for $70.

The chrome is in good but not perfect shape.

I like them because the housing has a short dimension from the lens to the rear of the case, they don't stick out too much.

dr


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Posted by: ! Oct 20 2003, 02:26 PM

I think Rusty was talking about the hood mounted ones......

Posted by: campbellcj Oct 20 2003, 02:32 PM

I think the vintage Super Oscars are getting in the >$600/pair range now. The new flavors should be substantially less than that, but still not cheap lamps. Plus you have to fab the brackets I think.


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Posted by: djm914-6 Oct 20 2003, 02:34 PM

I had a set of Cibie Oscars on my last VW. Those things are great! I plan on getting two pair for the NARP once the body work has been done. I'll mount one pair in the bumper somewhat in the stock location and the other I'll mount inboard a bit. Super Oscars were THE rally light to own in the day. I have a set of Cibie headlamps now and find they are worth the extra coin. IMO, there is a big quality difference between the Cibie 7" E-spec and a similar lamp from Hella.

Posted by: kdfoust Oct 20 2003, 02:43 PM

I happened to have a set of Hella 7" e-code headlamps laying around which I just put in my S2. My 914 has Cibie 7" e-code headlamps already. There is no comparision! The Cibies have a much sharper cutoff and produce "more" useful light (same bulb wattage).

Now I'm screwed since I've seen the difference. The Hellas are coming out so I can put another set of Cibies in. Bosch e-code headlamps are close to the Cibie but no cigar.

Have fun,
Kevin

Posted by: campbellcj Oct 20 2003, 09:54 PM

My old 911 had E-code vintage Cibie H4's too; I ended up replacing them with Bosch H4's (the slant-lens 911 kind), mostly for looks. I wish I hadn't sold the Cibies, though. I have the euro Hella H4's on my current 914, with PIAA bulbs; they're nice but I don't drive it at night anyway. The headlights are basically just still there to help save me from too many equipment violation fines if I get pulled-over on the street

Posted by: campbellcj Oct 20 2003, 09:58 PM

OK...I know these are 911's but for lighting fetish guys they aren't bad...


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Posted by: campbellcj Oct 20 2003, 09:58 PM

Not mine either...


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Posted by: campbellcj Oct 20 2003, 09:59 PM

911ST...


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Posted by: campbellcj Oct 20 2003, 10:01 PM

Had to throw in this one cuz I love this pic...(my old car)


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Posted by: seanery Oct 20 2003, 10:06 PM

Chris, was your blue car a sporto?
I looked at an 911 E blue sporto with lights like that at California Cars in Calabassas.

Posted by: thesey914 Oct 21 2003, 02:47 AM

I really love the "GT" look these lamps give to the car....trouble is as has been mentioned before the correct period lamps are £$€!.
I have never seen any of the cluster variety for sale as shown on the silver 155 numbered car.....might be a bit of an overkill though


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