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Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 06:50 PM

GREAT SUCCESS!

Today, members of Team NARP achieved remarkable results after some officesupply engineering.

To make a splitter, go to your local UPS store, or Kinkos (Home Depot might be overkill but some prefer their selection).

You will need:

Yellow Duct Tape
Black Duct Tape
Random cardboard box
Up to 6 plastic knives for supports
A real knife for cutting the cardboard
Permanent marker for adding graphics.

The design speaks for itself, so here goes...


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Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 06:51 PM

Second picture.





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Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 06:52 PM

Now for some high speed testing. John reports that he definitely felt a good 50-55 lbs of additional downforce. AWESOME!


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 18 2006, 06:52 PM

dude, we rock. Thanks to all for the design work, and the fabbing skills. i cannot wait to see what it does at the track!!!


cardboard - free
plastic utensils - free
nice flared six - borrowed.

Making your own sweeper dam and splitter with friends. PRICELESS.

downforce -
"Great Success"

Posted by: mikez Nov 18 2006, 06:52 PM

Ok........S L O W L Y step away from the tile grout you have been smoking.....the crack is B E T T ER......

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 06:53 PM

Very high smile factor. It HAS TO BE WORKING.. Of course it did retract into the bumper for stowage, an unanticipated feature.




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Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 06:54 PM

John catches a cone! OH NO!


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Posted by: jsteele22 Nov 18 2006, 06:54 PM


Is the yellow to make it go faster ?


Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 06:55 PM

TEAM NARP TAPE ENGINEERS


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 18 2006, 06:57 PM

these will be available shortly, we are in process of making bulk purchase of cardboard from UPS (thanks ellyut)

we will post our downforce results inthe paddock.

High five! Great Success!

Posted by: Joe Ricard Nov 18 2006, 07:12 PM

Ya know this is Trekkor's fault he startedall this Splitter on a budget crap.
Now look at this we got young'ins tryingto imitate evil genious

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 18 2006, 07:25 PM

ours came in at around 2 lbs....

we needed 22 lbs total, so we added scuba weights and 2x4's for strength and mass.
the plastic knives/utensils acted as a great turn buckle... great for adjusting attack angle.


Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 18 2006, 08:56 PM

The next project is a set of cardboard mailing tube headers. One of the advantages is that as you drive, they get less restrictive, AND get lighter over time.

-Tony

Posted by: trekkor Nov 18 2006, 09:24 PM

Speechless... ohmy.gif







Posted by: Series9 Nov 18 2006, 09:32 PM

Oh yes. I still hurt from laughing so hard.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 18 2006, 10:03 PM

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man, i needed that laugh!
piratenanner.gif Andy

PS: group buy? idea.gif

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 18 2006, 10:38 PM

So anyone figure out how much downforce it creates at say 100mph??

My computations say we will need about a foot of travel on the stock torsion bars....???

Look for the original on e-bay shortly, and mass production as soon as we can pawn shipping off on Z.

BJH

Posted by: T H O M A S Nov 18 2006, 10:46 PM

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Posted by: Series9 Nov 18 2006, 10:48 PM

High altitude testing to commence in NM next month...........

Posted by: lybones Nov 19 2006, 01:04 AM

QUOTE(TonyAKAVW @ Nov 18 2006, 04:52 PM) *

Now for some high speed testing. John reports that he definitely felt a good 50-55 lbs of additional downforce. AWESOME!




av-943.gif SHWEET! love the Pacifico sponsor, too. I wish I could have been there.

Posted by: Howard Nov 19 2006, 01:38 AM

To save you a trip to snopes.com, let me give you the real story.

3 engineers and a commercial pilot took an origami class. Lacking any artistic abilities, they decided to create an aerodynamic device. The goal was cheap downforce, but without a wind tunnel (or any common sense) the device looked more like a snow shovel.

They securely (?) mounted it on a 914/6. While proud of their work, none wanted to risk the test flight. After a brief conference, they agree:
"Let's get the bartender to do it".

While there are no actual test results, it appeared to this trained eye that prior to its catastrophic failure the device caused substantial lift. With rigid materials and suitable mounting, flight may been possible. Not controlled flight, but addition of control surfaces.....

Thought you'd like to know happy11.gif burnout.gif

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 19 2006, 02:07 AM

On the contrary, we have ample data to support our claims. In the following graph you will notice that the downforce increases monotonically with speed. What begs further investigation however is that it does not do so linearly or exponentially as one might expect.

The dramatic decrease in downforce at 30mph is due to the automatic retraction of the splitter, not a catastrophic failure as some have proposed.

- Tony


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 19 2006, 04:52 AM

cross posted pictures....


as you can see, we are even sponsored for our R/D on the cardboard splitter.
we would like to thank Low Performance HAUS and UPS, along with costco utensils smile.gif

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Posted by: Headrage Nov 19 2006, 10:17 AM

I was wondering what you nuts were doing with the box...





Excellent work!!! thumb3d.gif

Posted by: JPB Nov 19 2006, 10:22 AM

av-943.gif Comedic genious and over the top!!!

Posted by: sww914 Nov 19 2006, 11:52 AM

You guys need to buy some project cars, idle hands do the devil's work.

Posted by: redshift Nov 19 2006, 09:16 PM

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OMG! That killed me!


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Posted by: Joe Sharp Nov 19 2006, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 19 2006, 07:16 PM) *

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OMG! That killed me!


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Probably not Miles, but we'll keep trying.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 19 2006, 09:49 PM

LMFAO here!!!!!!

Posted by: Howard Nov 19 2006, 10:08 PM

On another note, they weren't even drinking. Scary, huh? blink.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM

only during the celebration!

no one commented on the winglets????

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 20 2006, 12:20 AM

too busy sending the winglet pics to the chineese to mass produce them....

BASTARDS!!

Posted by: Series9 Nov 20 2006, 12:40 AM

QUOTE(Howard @ Nov 19 2006, 09:08 PM) *

On another note, they weren't even drinking. Scary, huh? blink.gif



Don't go crazy.........beer IS required.


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Posted by: markb Nov 20 2006, 01:17 AM

I absolutely cannot believe these guys were messing around while there were 914's present. One of those cars must have needed something repaired on it, and you all ignored it to play with cardboard. Shame on you!!!





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Looks like you had a good time. smile.gif

Posted by: VegasRacer Nov 20 2006, 01:50 AM

As Team NARP Test Driver MDB2.gif I would like to congratulate the Engineering Team smilie_pokal.gif on the resounding success of the splitter project. smash.gif The improvement in handling and stability was dramatic. burnout.gif

I would also like to thank them pray.gif for answering the age old question:
"How many engineers does it take to change a light bulb?" idea.gif
*(or in this case, a set of new Pilot Driving Lights from Camp914)





Hey Trekk - beerchug.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Nov 20 2006, 10:07 AM

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Posted by: GTeener Nov 20 2006, 03:38 PM

chairfall.gif Nice! Looks like a good time was had by all.

Thanks for sharing thumb3d.gif

Posted by: trekkor Nov 20 2006, 08:06 PM

The "real deal" wink.gif

70-75 mph.

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You can see the entire Infineon gallery over in my splitter thread in the Paddoack if you wish.


KT

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 20 2006, 09:25 PM

now thats track tested.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 20 2006, 09:39 PM

i think you missed the spirit or message in the thread T smile.gif

Posted by: trekkor Nov 20 2006, 11:25 PM

No I got it. smile.gif

i thought it was hilarious and was thankful I hadn't taken a bite of food or a drink of anything carbonated.

i liked the functional roof scoop, too.

"LPH"- classic.


KT

Posted by: mudfoot76 Nov 21 2006, 09:13 AM

QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 21 2006, 12:25 AM) *

thankful I hadn't taken a bite of food or a drink of anything carbonated.


I did just spray coffee onto my screen. That cardboard splitter is hilarious!! Low Performance Haus!!

I especially enjoyed the graph, with downforce measured in "units"

Good job, everyone!!

Posted by: grantsfo Nov 21 2006, 10:42 AM

On a serious note. Couldn't you guys throw some fiberglass cloth down on your cardboard cutouts and slop some resin on them. Then get L brackets and affix this permanently?

I think there is a potential market for cheap cardboard core performance parts for the 914. Maybe you could find a viable source of employment for yourselves? biggrin.gif


Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 21 2006, 12:00 PM

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I especially enjoyed the graph, with downforce measured in "units"


I hoped someone would notice that smile.gif

Grant: You are right. There definitely is a potential market for cheap performance parts for the 914. You ever see anyone around here asking for higher prices on perfromance parts? Tricky part is that once you put fiberglass and resin on the cardboar it increases the price by 50 times. Now if you glued together multiple sheets of cardboard in alternating directions (like plywood) you might have something.

Hmm... boxes and 3M super 77 adhesive spray. Probably moves you up from UPS/Kinkos to Staples/Office Depot, but still a bargain!

-Tony

Posted by: mudfoot76 Nov 21 2006, 02:04 PM

QUOTE(TonyAKAVW @ Nov 21 2006, 01:00 PM) *

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I especially enjoyed the graph, with downforce measured in "units"


I hoped someone would notice that smile.gif


In my work, I deal with alot of graphs and statistics, so whenever I see a new graph, I look at the scales before I look at the plot(s).


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Hmm... boxes and 3M super 77 adhesive spray. Probably moves you up from UPS/Kinkos to Staples/Office Depot, but still a bargain!

-Tony


I can't believe this is turning into an almost serious consideration. Instead of laying cardboard like plywood, why not just use plywood (since we're still shopping at home depot and this idea brings us back to absurd). Yeah, it might be heavy, but it will resist "retracting" above 30 mph biggrin.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 21 2006, 11:45 PM

and it can fly off and kill people on the track smile.gif


trek - thanks for being a goodsport....

we all lost some pounds from laughing so hard.

too fun

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 22 2006, 04:04 PM

i'm still giggling...

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Nov 22 2006, 04:39 PM

So we aren't the only ones to do cardboard ground effects....

http://home.cogeco.ca/~pteahan/92cavy/howto.htm

I like how he considers his final result "kick-ass."

-Tony


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Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 22 2006, 06:17 PM

he put more time into his... but ours is Much more effective.

Ours also might be prettier...

BJH

Posted by: Geezer914 Jan 12 2024, 01:30 PM

That is some funny shit!

Posted by: technicalninja Jan 14 2024, 02:36 PM

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Thanks for bringing this back from the dead Gezzer!

Now, on a more serious note...

My first-born Bryan built a bridge out of cardboard for one of his engineering classes.

He had to span 3' at 3' high and the bridge was to be "tested to failure."

The assignment was "a bridge out of non-standard building materials."

You could have 2, he picked cardboard and construction adhesive.

He used 3ply cardboard and laminated 5 sheets together with the construction adhesive.

It was "surfboard" stiff, and the instructor STOPPED the destructive testing at 900lbs of rocks and two big students jumping on the rocks. Nearly 1500lbs of force with impacts!

They'd run out of rocks and room for students on it. The instructor was worried someone might get hurt if it failed.

Bryan's bridge was the ONLY one in history (12 years) that didn't break!

We had to use a chain saw to cut it up and put it in a dumpster.

So, if you really want to make a splitter out of cardboard, I know exactly how to do it...

Posted by: AZBanks Jan 17 2024, 06:01 PM

With that kind of engineering talent and those materials, I'm surprised no one thought to add boxed rockers

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