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Posted by: jhadler Dec 5 2007, 11:36 AM

I've scanned through the old posts, but couldn't find the info I was looking for.

I might be in the market to get one of those mid-rise lifts. I'm looking for the one that a couple people have said was great for the 914. Low enough to get the car on, and would rise high enough, and had enough room under the car to enable an engine drop/install.

I'd love to get some information on this one. A new lift for the garage might be in my immediate future! biggrin.gif Then I can REALLY get some work done... sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif smash.gif

Right? beer3.gif yellowsleep[1].gif

-Josh2

Posted by: race914 Dec 5 2007, 11:53 AM

Hi Josh,

I ended up with the http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Master-Series-XL6-p/tp-xl6.htm from Greg Smith Equipment

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Works great with a 914!

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Remember that you have to build some ramps to get a 914 over the lift itself

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Besides the obvious benefits of having a lift, I recently rebuilt my pedal cluster and boy was it great standing up and just leaning in to R&R the pedals vs. lying on the floor half way in the car doing the same!


Posted by: Ferg Dec 5 2007, 11:58 AM

I'm happy with my Bend Pak as a brand name, I know they make a mid rise too.

Not sure the diff between mid and low rise but saw this on craigslist...

http://denver.craigslist.org/tls/472552993.html

Ferg beerchug.gif

Posted by: jhadler Dec 5 2007, 12:07 PM

QUOTE(race914 @ Dec 5 2007, 09:53 AM) *

Hi Josh,

I ended up with the http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Master-Series-XL6-p/tp-xl6.htm from Greg Smith Equipment


That's the one! Very cool. If I can manage to get this soon, can you send me drawings or something for those ramps? Looks like a great way to do it, and wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel in the process.

And I could use this to work on my "other" cars too (all Volvos)...

THANKS!!

-Josh2

Posted by: race914 Dec 5 2007, 12:12 PM

I'd be glad to!

If you notice I have some 'removable' center pieces. They are "on" to get the car onto the ramp (last pic of ramp without the car) and "off" to swing the lift arms out to the jacking points (pic with 914 raised).

I'll get the measurements and post a drawing.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Dec 5 2007, 12:14 PM

Josh,
You might try searching pelican. I seem to remember a pretty detailed thread about this in the 911 forum. wink.gif

Posted by: sww914 Dec 5 2007, 12:40 PM

Friggin engineer types make everything perfect! makes my cobbled together crap look like crap!

Posted by: race914 Dec 5 2007, 01:28 PM

QUOTE(sww914 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:40 AM) *

Friggin engineer types make everything perfect! makes my cobbled together crap look like crap!


I resemble that remark! beer.gif

Posted by: race914 Dec 5 2007, 01:39 PM

Here's the ramp layout. If I did it again, I would probably just use two 2x4 x 10's instead of the middle 2x10x10. Would be cheaper, lighter and still more than strong enough.

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Here's the http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200304485_200304485 I used.

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They are overkill but I got tired of messing with an easy way to do this. Without a smooth ramp you end up pushing the ramps instead of driving up them.

Don't let SWW914 fool you. His stuff is awesome! And he does stuff efficiently. I spend twice as much time as needed thinking about it before I do it!! Like drawing pictures of wood ramps instead of just building them blink.gif

Posted by: Krieger914 Dec 5 2007, 03:17 PM

Hey, what do you peeps think of this one outside of the price. The big advantage I think is that it weighs 160#s and you could move it to another car. Those steel ones are 800#s and don't seem that movable. Also for an extra $300 you can get casters that allow everything to move. This only goes up 27", but my buddy has one and it seems really cool. I (Santa) am about to purchase one of these so please chime in for me too. ezcarlift.com Thanks

Posted by: jhadler Dec 5 2007, 03:22 PM

QUOTE(Krieger914 @ Dec 5 2007, 01:17 PM) *

Hey, what do you peeps think of this one outside of the price. The big advantage I think is that it weighs 160#s and you could move it to another car. Those steel ones are 800#s and don't seem that movable. Also for an extra $300 you can get casters that allow everything to move. This only goes up 27", but my buddy has one and it seems really cool. I (Santa) am about to purchase one of these so please chime in for me too. ezcarlift.com Thanks


The drawback I see might be that 1) it doesn't seem to raise high enough to do an engine drop/install. And 2) there's the crossbar that might also prevent an engine drop/install. And that's not factoring in the price which is nearly twice that of the scissor lift posted above.

-Josh2

Posted by: race914 Dec 5 2007, 03:40 PM

QUOTE(Krieger914 @ Dec 5 2007, 01:17 PM) *

Hey, what do you peeps think of this one outside of the price. The big advantage I think is that it weighs 160#s and you could move it to another car. Those steel ones are 800#s and don't seem that movable. Also for an extra $300 you can get casters that allow everything to move. This only goes up 27", but my buddy has one and it seems really cool. I (Santa) am about to purchase one of these so please chime in for me too. ezcarlift.com Thanks


I saw the EZCARLIFT demonstrated at Buttonwillow during a track event.

You are right, it does come apart, and is easier to move. When I saw the demo, it did assembly pretty easy and with the cordless drill lifted pretty quickly too.

I included it in my comparisons before I bought.

Regarding moving around the garage. The Greg Smith lift actually moves ok using the pump stand with the wheels as the 'lever'. But as you point out, the Greg Smith doesn't come apart and can't be stored on a shelf out of the way.

Most other lifts also needs 110v to operate which you may or may not have where you want to use it, epecially if you want to take it to the track... I couldn't take the Greg Smith lift to the track...

I didn't need the storage/transport features, so for $700 less and a lifting height of 55" vs. 26" I went the mid rise route.

The http://www.ezcarlift.com/ would work well if your requirements were something lightweight, breaks down for transportation and/or storage and you only need 26" of lift. I'm sure it will need less maintence too : )

Posted by: Krieger914 Dec 5 2007, 03:49 PM

Thanks, ample room for engine drop, no crossbar clearnace issues.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 29 2011, 10:34 PM

This is the one I need. Leaves the whole side open so I can roll my Celette under the car for mounting. This is the only kind I can use in my shop. A two post doesn't even work for me. I have in floor heat and can't drill holes for bolting a lift down.

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Master-Series-SPL-6-Portable-Single-Post-Lift-p/tp-xl-spl-6.htm

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 30 2011, 11:18 AM

Paul has agreed to come over and do this for me...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=84544

Posted by: PRS914-6 Jan 30 2011, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 30 2011, 09:18 AM) *

Paul has agreed to come over and do this for me...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=84544


Yep, it's good to have dreams.... slap.gif

On a serious note......Be forewarned about buying lifts! When they advertise the height of the lift it's the total height off the ground and they will include all the pads as part of that. You need to subtract the fully retracted height to get the actual "lift". Yeah, try to get that info

For instance they may advertise a 42" height but on the ground it is 6" so the actual "lift" is only 36". Pay attention! I actually had to call some manufactures to get the "real" numbers. Some of the lifts have large rubber truck pads included. They add that as part of the "height"

After learning this lesson the hard way, I bought the Bend Pack. Paid more but have never regretted it. I love it!!!
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