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Posted by: grantsfo Aug 6 2010, 02:52 PM

Good luck to all you guys running at Packwood this weekend! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Aug 6 2010, 05:55 PM

Thanks piratenanner.gif We're going to need it dry.gif

There is some seriously killer cars in our class driven by some very tallented drivers. but I know we will have fun driving.gif

Posted by: BMXerror Aug 6 2010, 08:56 PM

What are you drivin' this weekend, Jon? Good luck. Watch out for all the crazy nuts that I race with up there. drunk.gif
Mark D.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 7 2010, 07:50 AM

The Packwod NT is well attended by the Pcar bunch.....better than most NTs, if not all. The Britbox was the only Pcar (NARP, actually biggrin.gif) at the Wendover NT, whereas there will be 14 or so Pcar jocks at Packwood. It's a nice drive for he local Porsche guys, well worth while to day trip & watch the big dogs run on either day.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 7 2010, 03:01 PM

Saturday's ru **** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) ****

Class standings for XP [10 Cars] (8/7/2010 2:22:10 PM)

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T 1 21 Duke Langley 1990 Chevy Corvette Blk Hoosier
49.303 51.650(1) 49.708 49.303

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T 2 59 Mark Snell 2006 Lotus Exige Blk Hoosier
49.469 51.770 49.659 49.469
(0.166)
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T 3 144 Britain Smith 1974 Porsche 914/6 Ylw Hoosier
51.360 49.588 49.554 49.554
(0.085)
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T 4 128 Jodi Fordahl 1971 Porsche 914 White Hoosier
51.000 49.557 64.289 49.557
(0.003)
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5 28 Leeds Gulick 1971 Porsche 914-6 Wht Hoosier
51.478 50.336 50.234 50.234
(0.677)
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Posted by: J P Stein Aug 7 2010, 03:04 PM

AS 2010 Packwood National Tour
Aug 6-8, 2010

**** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) ****

Class standings for ASP [11 Cars] (8/7/2010 12:33:50 PM)

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T 1 177 Jeff Barstow 2004 Porsche 911 Slv Hoosier
51.057 51.045 50.908 50.908

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T 2 98 Rob Boynton 2002 Porsche GT 2 Gry Hoosier
53.496(1) 51.289 50.958 50.958
(0.050)
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T 3 77 Geoff Newman 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 Sl Hoosier
52.701 51.065 53.220(1) 51.065
(0.107)
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T 4 119 Matt Lowell 1993 Porsche 911 RSA Bl Hoosier
57.238(1) 57.703(3) 51.462 51.462
(0.397)
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5 191 Eric Hyman 2009 Nissan GT-R Wht Hoosier
52.339 51.692 52.478 51.692
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Posted by: J P Stein Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM

---------------------------------------------------------
T 1 177 Jeff Barstow 2004 Porsche 911 Slv Hoosier
51.057 51.045 50.908 101.809
51.612 51.249 50.901
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T 2 98 Rob Boynton 2002 Porsche GT 2 Gry Hoosier
53.496(1) 51.289 50.958 102.409
52.585 51.835 51.451 (0.600)
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T 3 77 Geoff Newman 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 Sl Hoosier
52.701 51.065 53.220(1) 102.970
52.906 51.968 51.905 (0.561)
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T 4 119 Matt Lowell 1993 Porsche 911 RSA Bl Hoosier
57.238(1) 57.703(3) 51.462 103.945
53.999 55.719(1) 52.483 (0.975)
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5 191 Eric Hyman 2009 Nissan GT-R Wht Hoosier
52.339 51.692 52.478 103.966
53.129 52.390 52.274 (0.021)




---------------------------------------------------------
T 1 21 Duke Langley 1990 Chevy Corvette Blk Hoosier
49.303 51.650(1) 49.708 98.633 ***TTOD for doorslammers weekend****
49.550 50.273 49.330
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T 2 144 Britain Smith 1974 Porsche 914/6 Ylw Hoosier
51.360 49.588 49.554 99.853
51.655 50.299 52.697(1) (1.220)
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T 3 59 Mark Snell 2006 Lotus Exige Blk Hoosier
49.469 51.770 49.659 100.145
52.589 50.999 50.676 (0.292)
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T 4 177 Jodi Fordahl 1971 Porsche 914 White Hoosier
51.000 49.557 DNF 101.243
52.304 54.470(1) 51.686 (1.098)
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5 77 Leeds Gulick 1971 Porsche 914-6 Wht Hoosier
51.478 50.336 50.234 102.243
DNF DNF 52.009 (1.000)


Pcars done gud.

Posted by: BMXerror Aug 8 2010, 05:38 PM

Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! biggrin.gif
Mark D.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Aug 8 2010, 06:55 PM

Very fun couple of days but boy do I suck when it comes driving 911s. I didn't get DFL but I may as well have. My first NT was worth it. Next year I will hopefully be in a car I am very familiar with smile.gif.

Good job Britian. Very impressive driving beating out Snell.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 9 2010, 06:12 AM

SCCA Porsche class?

2010 Packwood National Tour
Aug 6-8, 2010

**** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) ****

Class standings for AS [5 Cars] (8/8/2010 4:24:29 PM)

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T 1 96 John Stimson 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho
54.720(1) 52.258 52.050 105.813
55.628(1) 54.438 53.763
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T 2 185 Annie Bauer 2008 Porsche Cayman S S Hoosier
53.772 53.198 52.820 106.428
53.975 53.608 53.655 (0.615)
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3 85 Abe Potter 2008 Porsche Coxster S Hoosier
53.869 53.027 52.861 106.559
54.501 54.195 53.698 (0.131)
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4 14 Eric Moore 1997 Chevy Corvette Wht Hoosier
53.835 53.650 55.191(1) 106.784
54.241 54.172 53.134 (0.225)
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5 196 Elizabeth Bacon 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho
55.675 54.026 54.283 108.358
54.722 54.418 54.332 (1.574)


Posted by: grantsfo Aug 9 2010, 03:19 PM

QUOTE(J P Stein @ Aug 9 2010, 05:12 AM) *

SCCA Porsche class?

2010 Packwood National Tour
Aug 6-8, 2010

**** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS (INFORMATIONAL ONLY) ****

Class standings for AS [5 Cars] (8/8/2010 4:24:29 PM)

---------------------------------------------------------
T 1 96 John Stimson 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho
54.720(1) 52.258 52.050 105.813
55.628(1) 54.438 53.763
---------------------------------------------------------
T 2 185 Annie Bauer 2008 Porsche Cayman S S Hoosier
53.772 53.198 52.820 106.428
53.975 53.608 53.655 (0.615)
---------------------------------------------------------
3 85 Abe Potter 2008 Porsche Coxster S Hoosier
53.869 53.027 52.861 106.559
54.501 54.195 53.698 (0.131)
---------------------------------------------------------
4 14 Eric Moore 1997 Chevy Corvette Wht Hoosier
53.835 53.650 55.191(1) 106.784
54.241 54.172 53.134 (0.225)
---------------------------------------------------------
5 196 Elizabeth Bacon 2006 Porsche Cayman S S Kumho
55.675 54.026 54.283 108.358
54.722 54.418 54.332 (1.574)

Well setup Cayman S in AS should be one of the top cars. Surprised SCCA hasnt relegated them to SS.

Posted by: grantsfo Aug 9 2010, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(BMXerror @ Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM) *

Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! biggrin.gif
Mark D.

You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 9 2010, 04:33 PM

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 9 2010, 02:25 PM) *

QUOTE(BMXerror @ Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM) *

Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! biggrin.gif
Mark D.

You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell.


I agree, there is not enough money in the till to build a Porsche of sufficient performance to play in FP & if so, time will continue to push the 2 valve motor to a dead end. This year the experiment/experience was to find out how far behind the big dogs the car is......the answer is about 1.5 sec per run. That is a bunch to make up. Brit has been blown out by big HP cars, the handles are there as is his driving but when your up against cars with twice the HP you start out at a disadvantage. Prolly gonna work on that.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Aug 9 2010, 05:26 PM

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 9 2010, 02:25 PM) *

QUOTE(BMXerror @ Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM) *

Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! biggrin.gif
Mark D.

You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell.

Ah, but something else you don't see that will happen is Greg Fordahl is driving Leeds 914 in FP piratenanner.gif . Finally a driver that can make that car work its magic. Leeds and Jodi are good but Greg is amazing in that car. Hope he gets a little seat time before this event.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 9 2010, 08:10 PM

Leeeds told me that his car is not handling well. The new radial tires are causing a push. He said the tires are more heat sensetive then the old bias R35 compound and the rears get hot & the fronts don't.....which seems like a good theory. To hear him tell it, Jodi called Greg after driving the thing and wanted to know how to cure it....then it broke & we got no cure....assuming there was one.

To my eyeball, I suggested a scrub radius problem....the front wheels are wide and I assumed a standard 5 inch backspace. I did run into one fella that understood that.....the owner of the Stagnaro CP Mustang. He's gone thru 2-3 front ends to get closer to 0 scrub.....and those are huge fronts...12 or 13 inch, me thinks. I took one look at the shallow positive offset of those wheels & went to talk to him. No push there and that thing is FAST...for a CA car. biggrin.gif I think Brit has found a solution to get wide tires up front with no scrub problems.....we'll see.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Aug 9 2010, 08:26 PM

Your theory makes perfect sense to me JP. I just hope Greg has time to look into it before Nationals. Leeds has been complaining a lot lately and I don't really get it. He sure isn't putting down the times he was three or four years ago. Dunno what the cause is but I have always loved watching Greg drive his car. Greg just makes that 914 dance.

Posted by: grantsfo Aug 10 2010, 01:53 PM

QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Aug 9 2010, 04:26 PM) *

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 9 2010, 02:25 PM) *

QUOTE(BMXerror @ Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM) *

Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! biggrin.gif
Mark D.

You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell.

Ah, but something else you don't see that will happen is Greg Fordahl is driving Leeds 914 in FP piratenanner.gif . Finally a driver that can make that car work its magic. Leeds and Jodi are good but Greg is amazing in that car. Hope he gets a little seat time before this event.

Have you seen Toby drive? At wide open course in a FP BMW that reportedly only makes 250 RWHP he was less than a second off XP National Class 400 RWHP Lotus. He was second place car in XP at FP weight at San Diego NT as well. While it was only reported that the B driver beat Brit by 3 seconds in FP it wasnt reported that Toby in same FP car beat Brit by over 5 seconds - he was just running the FP car in XP. In my years of AX he is one of the fastest AX'ers I have seen. Very impressive driver.


Not saying a well setup FP 914 couldnt beat him but I wouldnt underestimate that BMW with Toby at the wheel. There are lots of benchmark cars up at Packwood. The ASP GT2, CP Mustang, and CSP miata that were all flattened by him in San Diego or El Toro by a couple seconds.



Posted by: brilliantrot Aug 10 2010, 02:39 PM

Toby is certainly one of the best drivers I have seen. Just take a look at some of his incar video. He is on a different level than some of us mere mortals.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Aug 10 2010, 03:04 PM

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 10 2010, 12:53 PM) *

QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Aug 9 2010, 04:26 PM) *

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Aug 9 2010, 02:25 PM) *

QUOTE(BMXerror @ Aug 8 2010, 04:38 PM) *

Good job, Britt. You keep runner upin' in XP, you should give the FP guys hell at nationals! biggrin.gif
Mark D.

You know something I dont? I dont see Brit signed up for FP nationals? Would love to see him go at the BMW again but truly I think it will take a faster car than his ballasted XP car to give that BMW hell.

Ah, but something else you don't see that will happen is Greg Fordahl is driving Leeds 914 in FP piratenanner.gif . Finally a driver that can make that car work its magic. Leeds and Jodi are good but Greg is amazing in that car. Hope he gets a little seat time before this event.

Have you seen Toby drive? At wide open course in a FP BMW that reportedly only makes 250 RWHP he was less than a second off XP National Class 400 RWHP Lotus. He was second place car in XP at FP weight at San Diego NT as well. While it was only reported that the B driver beat Brit by 3 seconds in FP it wasnt reported that Toby in same FP car beat Brit by over 5 seconds - he was just running the FP car in XP. In my years of AX he is one of the fastest AX'ers I have seen. Very impressive driver.


Not saying a well setup FP 914 couldnt beat him but I wouldnt underestimate that BMW with Toby at the wheel. There are lots of benchmark cars up at Packwood. The ASP GT2, CP Mustang, and CSP miata that were all flattened by him in San Diego or El Toro by a couple seconds.


Well, the GT2 was beat by the GT3 that is one of our local guys who is regulary beat by Greg when he drives the 914. I believe Greg and Toby may be on an even playing field where, if the equipement holds, it really just depends on who is more on that day.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 10 2010, 08:07 PM

Assuming everyone breought their A game to the Nats in 2009;

Zust-XP: 110.2-W
Maier-CP: 111.8-W
Larsson-FP: 113.6-2nd

Yes, good markers. Zust beat Larsson by a lesser amount (2.4 sec) at the SD NT.

Posted by: grantsfo Aug 10 2010, 08:47 PM

QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Aug 10 2010, 02:04 PM) *



Well, the GT2 was beat by the GT3 that is one of our local guys who is regulary beat by Greg when he drives the 914. I believe Greg and Toby may be on an even playing field where, if the equipement holds, it really just depends on who is more on that day.

I beat that GT2 on regular basis in my poorly prepped 190 HP 2480cc 914 and now in my better prepped but heavier 185 HP 2480cc Boxster? Wouldnt look to that GT2 as gold standard of fast AX cars.

While I'm a 914 fan have to put my money on Toby for Nats this year. Hope i'm proven wrong!

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 11 2010, 04:25 PM

Fordahl was leading XP in that GT2 on day one at the 2008 Nats....finished 3rd.

Leeds said he was gonna make it to the ORPCA AX in Packwood this next Sunday.
If things hold true, he'll get lotso testing. There appears to be no other local AXs
before the Nats.

I see a possible ringer entered in XP this year....a white 95 M3 from CO.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 13 2010, 11:01 AM

there was a fellow driving a nissan 240SX (had idaho plates on it) at the SCCA event in packwood a few weekends ago. fast car, good driver. it has one of the japanese export engines installed. i think brittain was chasing his time when i left.

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