AEM Wideband AF meter, Anyone running this one? |
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AEM Wideband AF meter, Anyone running this one? |
jeffdon |
Dec 9 2010, 11:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Just wonder if this model is a good choice. Price looks good.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CFQM4...;pf_rd_i=507846 |
brant |
Dec 9 2010, 11:25 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I think that is the price for just the gauge without the controller or sensor
i think the innovate model's price was about the same brant |
jeffdon |
Dec 9 2010, 11:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
I think that is the price for just the gauge without the controller or sensor i think the innovate model's price was about the same brant I dunno about that....here it is again, and they sure picture a lot of stuff with it. If its gauge only, then they are really misrepresenting things. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ITFA9...;pf_rd_i=507846 |
Mike Bellis |
Dec 9 2010, 11:34 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I beleive that gauge does control the WB but does not include the WB with the gauge.
AEM makes quality stuff. Mostly for ricers. |
Mike Bellis |
Dec 9 2010, 11:37 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I may be wrong!
Jegs has it for $199 and includes the sensor. http://www.jegs.com/i/AEM/017/30-4100/10002/-1?CT=999 |
brant |
Dec 9 2010, 11:45 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
the 2nd link is helpful
I'm not sure either... I'd probably call and talk with a live person and research it its a great price if it is complete with the "lamba cable" I have 2 innovate systems now (one is hardwired into the race car / one is mobile for everything else) they(wide bands) are awesome and really the only way to go for jetting/tuning brant |
ChrisFoley |
Dec 9 2010, 12:01 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,958 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
We have installed a few of the AEM units. I like them. The auxilliary output can be configured for use as input to the SDS injection ECU.
That's why I have them for sale on my website, but I can't compete with Jegs or Amazon on price. |
ChrisFoley |
Dec 9 2010, 12:05 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,958 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Here's one we installed in a 912E, on the AC console next to the fuel level gauge.
The dash has CHT & EGT instruments as well. That's why the fuel gauge is on the AC panel. |
jeffdon |
Dec 9 2010, 12:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
I better get this on order before the wikileak hackers shut down amazon, LOL!
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p914 |
Dec 9 2010, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 1,117 Region Association: None |
We have installed a few of the AEM units. I like them. The auxilliary output can be configured for use as input to the SDS injection ECU. That's why I have them for sale on my website, but I can't compete with Jegs or Amazon on price. Does this adjust the SDS on it's own or do you still have to tune each parameter yourself? |
ChrisFoley |
Dec 9 2010, 08:21 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,958 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
We have installed a few of the AEM units. I like them. The auxilliary output can be configured for use as input to the SDS injection ECU. That's why I have them for sale on my website, but I can't compete with Jegs or Amazon on price. Does this adjust the SDS on it's own or do you still have to tune each parameter yourself? You still have to tune the parameters manually, but there is a limited closed loop mode. |
Brett W |
Dec 9 2010, 09:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
AEM makes quality stuff. Mostly for ricers. Hey, I resemble that remark. Have one in my Turbo Civic. Useful, but there really isn't a reason have a full time AF gauge in the car. I bought it first and then I bought the Innovate LM2 setup. Its more useful in my opinion. |
ConeDodger |
Dec 9 2010, 11:19 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,758 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I have an Innovate gauge new in box if you're just looking for a gauge. SDS requires the controller too.
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hasaramat |
Dec 9 2010, 11:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 23-November 08 From: Utah Member No.: 9,782 Region Association: None |
I sell about 15 or 20 of these a year and put them on small engine turbos, (snowmobiles, ATV's, etc.) It has been a very good product for that application. We lose an O2 sensor once and awhile on the 2 strokes because of the oil in the exhaust stream but small price to pay for getting the AFR right. They also work good with alot of water around.
mounted on yamaha apex turbo (325 Hp 18 psi boost) |
strawman |
Dec 10 2010, 01:30 AM
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BIGKAT_83 |
Dec 10 2010, 07:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States |
AEM makes quality stuff. Mostly for ricers. Hey, I resemble that remark. Have one in my Turbo Civic. Useful, but there really isn't a reason have a full time AF gauge in the car. I bought it first and then I bought the Innovate LM2 setup. Its more useful in my opinion. Good to have when tuning but really not needed after your done. I have a AFR gauge mounted on my ash tray with a plug on the wiring so I can remove it. If you don't have a ECU that can do Data logging the LM2 set up is the way to go with Data logging. Bob |
brant |
Dec 10 2010, 08:21 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
We run different altitude and different jetting every weekend the car runs. So I appreciate having the race car hard mounted...
but on the 3 street cars I've tuned with an innovate, I agree... I tuned them for 1 day and then didn't need the innovate again. (hard wired not necessary) The sensors have a defined life span with any lead in the gas ie race gas |
Brett W |
Dec 10 2010, 10:13 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
QUOTE 914 Guru ***** Group: Members Posts: 6,173 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 We run different altitude and different jetting every weekend the car runs. So I appreciate having the race car hard mounted... but on the 3 street cars I've tuned with an innovate, I agree... I tuned them for 1 day and then didn't need the innovate again. (hard wired not necessary) The sensors have a defined life span with any lead in the gas ie race gas Well if you would graduate from semi controlled fuel leakage to accurate fuel control, like the rest of the world, you too could set it and forget it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) JK, I know your race rules don't allow FI. |
jeffdon |
Dec 10 2010, 01:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
AEM makes quality stuff. Mostly for ricers. Hey, I resemble that remark. Have one in my Turbo Civic. Useful, but there really isn't a reason have a full time AF gauge in the car. I bought it first and then I bought the Innovate LM2 setup. Its more useful in my opinion. Good to have when tuning but really not needed after your done. I have a AFR gauge mounted on my ash tray with a plug on the wiring so I can remove it. If you don't have a ECU that can do Data logging the LM2 set up is the way to go with Data logging. Bob I have had this thought too. Is there any place i could RENT an AF meter, so I can dial in my jetting and hopefully, be done with it? |
Brett W |
Dec 10 2010, 04:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
Most chassis dynos have a tailpipe sniffer that will work perfectly and its a controlled environment.
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