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Front Oil Cooler, How do you vent |
MikeSpraggi |
Feb 16 2011, 03:06 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Silver Spring, Md Member No.: 3,570 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Looking to get some ideas about where/how to vent air from the front oil cooler for my track car. I would prefer not to vent through the hood since I want to do some vintage racing and try to keep the car close in appearance to the /6 GT's of the day. Show some pics if you would. Thanks.
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Mark Henry |
Feb 16 2011, 07:07 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I wouldn't vent a front cooler, it's under pressure from the scavenge side of the pump. You would vent the sump tank, be it in the front or back.
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pcar916 |
Feb 16 2011, 07:18 AM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
Folks have vented cooling air out of the wheel wells or under the car. But your air flow won't be as much. Out the hood is illegal in SCCA production classes anyway, it's an aerodynamic aid. Yeah.
What motor? I have to get big air since the 3.6 uses the front cooler as the primary one. |
brant |
Feb 16 2011, 08:25 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've vented 2 different configurations out the bottom, also 1 car through the hood, and 1 car through the headlight buckets
(also one car with a rear mounted trunk cooler not vented) If your going to go vintage racing and keep stock appearance then: -headlights are a super amount of work to do right -GT style front trunk shroud is the easiest and probably best if you don't do the hood or headlights |
jt914-6 |
Feb 16 2011, 08:32 AM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Mike...are you going to use a stock fuel tank or a trunk mounted fuel cell??? If you're going to use the stock tank/location you could get the "GT" shroud...but as you can see in my pic, using a cell, mine is a 12 gal, you don't have much room around the cooler. Mine is enclosed with a two speed fan. The outlet hose is routed out under the car behind the steering rack. Just driving the air flow through the cooler/fan works fine. But on the track I use the fan to help cool when the temp. gets to about 220......
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 16 2011, 09:51 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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MikeSpraggi |
Feb 16 2011, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Silver Spring, Md Member No.: 3,570 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Mike...are you going to use a stock fuel tank or a trunk mounted fuel cell??? If you're going to use the stock tank/location you could get the "GT" shroud...but as you can see in my pic, using a cell, mine is a 12 gal, you don't have much room around the cooler. Mine is enclosed with a two speed fan. The outlet hose is routed out under the car behind the steering rack. Just driving the air flow through the cooler/fan works fine. But on the track I use the fan to help cool when the temp. gets to about 220...... I too have a 12 gal fuel cell in the front trunk, not enough room for the GT style shroud. Speaking of the GT shroud, is there any concern regarding lift at high speeds on the track? My engine is a 2.2l six, not quite stock, but almost (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . I was thinking of some type of venting through the front wheelwell. |
SirAndy |
Feb 16 2011, 12:12 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
My engine is a 2.2l six, not quite stock, but almost For a small /6 like that, you should be fine to hang the cooler in front of the trunk directly in the air-stream and not vent into the trunk at all. Some of the early GT cars did just that, the cooler is simply mounted under the bumper. If you run a custom "lip", you can even divert any warm air off to the sides and prevent it from getting under the car. No cutting the trunk and no additional warm air under the car ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
SirAndy |
Feb 16 2011, 12:15 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Funny,
you asked the same question two years ago and i posted a pic of one of the early GT's in that thread ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=94924 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1240435597.jpg) |
dflesburg |
Feb 16 2011, 12:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,722 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
heck with the rules!
color outside the lines! |
moparrob |
Feb 16 2011, 12:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
Funny, you asked the same question two years ago and i posted a pic of one of the early GT's in that thread ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) That likely means one of two things. He is either a) old enough to forget what he learned yesterday (I'm getting that way) or b) his car has been on jackstands for so long that he simply forgot issue #21964 while dealing with the rest of the issues, in order to get the thing on the road again... |
MikeSpraggi |
Feb 16 2011, 01:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Silver Spring, Md Member No.: 3,570 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Funny, you asked the same question two years ago and i posted a pic of one of the early GT's in that thread ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=94924 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1240435597.jpg) Not Funny ..... birth certificate syndrome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). And yes, I will be asking how to remove the jackstands from under the car. |
moparrob |
Feb 16 2011, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
Jackstand removal is typically facilitated by investing large sums of money into the project, to be followed by an equally large investment of time. Good friends and beer can help reduce the time frame (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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SirAndy |
Feb 16 2011, 03:31 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Good friends and beer can help reduce the time frame (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) Or at least skew the perception of said time-frame ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) |
DanT |
Feb 16 2011, 09:51 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
back on topic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
15 1.5" holes in trunk floor cut with hole saw. 25 row oil cooler mounted directly over grid of holes 1600CFM fan pushing air thru cooler out bottom of car (only used after coming off track, car never got hot while driving with this setup.) all the rubber plugs pulled from the front bulk head and matching holes drilled in front valence for air. Attached image(s) |
moparrob |
Feb 16 2011, 10:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
I just found these louvered panels online. They might be kinda cool...
Louvers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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