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Who has bought the inner rocker from AA, I meant to ask about the rocker |
obscurity |
Jun 30 2011, 06:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
I am curious whether it comes with a zinc coating, just red shop primer, or raw steel
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reharvey |
Jun 30 2011, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 16-July 08 From: N. E. Ohio Member No.: 9,308 Region Association: North East States |
Never saw one that was zinc coated.
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mikea100 |
Jun 30 2011, 07:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Edison, NJ Member No.: 11,182 Region Association: North East States |
You can do it yourself - cheap and readily available. Thats what I'm doing
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-10...mp;ddkey=Search |
jaxdream |
Jul 1 2011, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
You can do it yourself - cheap and readily available. Thats what I'm doing http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-10...mp;ddkey=Search Can this spray be welded to / against the edge ??? I've been using SEM weld through primer , and have to scratch away the primer in the areas that get tacked / plug welded as it really doesn't give a good condutive surface. Really more for corosion protection under the welded layered surfaces of the long / jackpost area that I'm working on to patch rusted out places . That rustolem product would be great to spray up into the longs after the por 15 metalready bath .Gonna have to get some , thanks for posting that product. Jack |
nsr-jamie |
Jul 1 2011, 08:33 AM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
Are the inner longitudinal parts that go in the inside of the car? Are they welded to the floor pan? I have seen some people call them inner or outer and am not quite sure....next year I am going to do some rust repair on my car, my outer longitudinals are not too bad but need work but the inner longitudinal on the passenger side is quite bad and I cant seem to find a good replacement...I am talking about the parts that are inside the car that are carpeted and not the outside parts covered by the rocker panels
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obscurity |
Jul 1 2011, 08:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
Are the inner longitudinal parts that go in the inside of the car? Are they welded to the floor pan? I have seen some people call them inner or outer and am not quite sure....next year I am going to do some rust repair on my car, my outer longitudinals are not too bad but need work but the inner longitudinal on the passenger side is quite bad and I cant seem to find a good replacement...I am talking about the parts that are inside the car that are carpeted and not the outside parts covered by the rocker panels It appears I have made the same mistake. I meant to ask about the outter longitudinal/inner rocker (I have heard both) The inner longitudinal are welded to the floorpans. It is a relativelt expensive part considering it is a basic box. I bought it because it is hard to bend 16ga steel and it came with the screew hole for the passenger seatbelt. John |
mikea100 |
Jul 1 2011, 01:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Edison, NJ Member No.: 11,182 Region Association: North East States |
You can do it yourself - cheap and readily available. Thats what I'm doing http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-10...mp;ddkey=Search Can this spray be welded to / against the edge ??? I've been using SEM weld through primer , and have to scratch away the primer in the areas that get tacked / plug welded as it really doesn't give a good condutive surface. Really more for corosion protection under the welded layered surfaces of the long / jackpost area that I'm working on to patch rusted out places . That rustolem product would be great to spray up into the longs after the por 15 metalready bath .Gonna have to get some , thanks for posting that product. Jack Jack, I'm planning on doing minimum welding (if any). I'll be using this panel adhesive. The edges need to be clean and thin layer of this product applied, it will act as primer. I bought the adhesive and the gun and now in the process of making templates. Another advantage is that I'm using galvanized steel for all my patch panels. I have a thread on the club site that I'll updating as I go. http://3mcollision.com/3m-panel-bonding-adhesive-08116.html Thanks, Mike |
obscurity |
Jul 1 2011, 01:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
Jack, I'm planning on doing minimum welding (if any). I'll be using this panel adhesive. The edges need to be clean and thin layer of this product applied, it will act as primer. I bought the adhesive and the gun and now in the process of making templates. Another advantage is that I'm using galvanized steel for all my patch panels. I have a thread on the club site that I'll updating as I go. http://3mcollision.com/3m-panel-bonding-adhesive-08116.html Thanks, Mike What panels are you replacing with the epoxy? Nothing structural I hope. John |
mikea100 |
Jul 1 2011, 01:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Edison, NJ Member No.: 11,182 Region Association: North East States |
Jack, I'm planning on doing minimum welding (if any). I'll be using this panel adhesive. The edges need to be clean and thin layer of this product applied, it will act as primer. I bought the adhesive and the gun and now in the process of making templates. Another advantage is that I'm using galvanized steel for all my patch panels. I have a thread on the club site that I'll updating as I go. http://3mcollision.com/3m-panel-bonding-adhesive-08116.html Thanks, Mike What panels are you replacing with the epoxy? Nothing structural I hope. John Inner rocker panels, hell hole patches, small firewall access patch around hell hole, small tunel patch, the passenger side crossmember. Speaking of structual, they gue roofs and beds, I think that's structural. |
obscurity |
Jul 1 2011, 02:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
Jack, I'm planning on doing minimum welding (if any). I'll be using this panel adhesive. The edges need to be clean and thin layer of this product applied, it will act as primer. I bought the adhesive and the gun and now in the process of making templates. Another advantage is that I'm using galvanized steel for all my patch panels. I have a thread on the club site that I'll updating as I go. http://3mcollision.com/3m-panel-bonding-adhesive-08116.html Thanks, Mike What panels are you replacing with the epoxy? Nothing structural I hope. John Inner rocker panels, hell hole patches, small firewall access patch around hell hole, small tunel patch, the passenger side crossmember. Speaking of structual, they gue roofs and beds, I think that's structural. True but they are not life safety related. The data sheet for that adhesive says that it is not for structural repairs. I would definitely weld anything that is structural. On a related note as an architect I would only use adhesive based roofs occasionally. I usually spec mechanically fastened roofs. Sorry if this post comes off sounding the wrong way. I'm just concerned for safety. John |
mikea100 |
Jul 1 2011, 02:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Edison, NJ Member No.: 11,182 Region Association: North East States |
Jack, I'm planning on doing minimum welding (if any). I'll be using this panel adhesive. The edges need to be clean and thin layer of this product applied, it will act as primer. I bought the adhesive and the gun and now in the process of making templates. Another advantage is that I'm using galvanized steel for all my patch panels. I have a thread on the club site that I'll updating as I go. http://3mcollision.com/3m-panel-bonding-adhesive-08116.html Thanks, Mike What panels are you replacing with the epoxy? Nothing structural I hope. John Inner rocker panels, hell hole patches, small firewall access patch around hell hole, small tunel patch, the passenger side crossmember. Speaking of structual, they gue roofs and beds, I think that's structural. True but they are not life safety related. The data sheet for that adhesive says that it is not for structural repairs. I would definitely weld anything that is structural. On a related note as an architect I would only use adhesive based roofs occasionally. I usually spec mechanically fastened roofs. Sorry if this post comes off sounding the wrong way. I'm just concerned for safety. John John, you're absolutely right about fasteners, I consider that superior to welding. I live in NYC area and all the bridges and high rises use fasteners. I was thinking of doing that, but some places are difficult to access with fastener gun. I also consider adhesives superior to welding - this is based on my own research, I've been wrong many times before. They use adhesives on new carbon fiber Boeing 787, Airbus has been gluing tail stabilizers for a while now. The disadvantage to gluing is the wait for it to set and cure - not good for mass production evironment where time is money. In my case it's not a problem. Thanks, Mike. |
scott_in_nh |
Jul 1 2011, 03:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
John, you're absolutely right about fasteners, I consider that superior to welding. I live in NYC area and all the bridges and high rises use fasteners. I was thinking of doing that, but some places are difficult to access with fastener gun. I also consider adhesives superior to welding - this is based on my own research, I've been wrong many times before. They use adhesives on new carbon fiber Boeing 787, Airbus has been gluing tail stabilizers for a while now. The disadvantage to gluing is the wait for it to set and cure - not good for mass production evironment where time is money. In my case it's not a problem. Thanks, Mike. The new Aston Martins are aluminum unibody that is glued together. They were showing the process on HD theatre (I think) and the engineers said that it is stronger than welding. |
mikea100 |
Jul 1 2011, 06:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Edison, NJ Member No.: 11,182 Region Association: North East States |
John, you're absolutely right about fasteners, I consider that superior to welding. I live in NYC area and all the bridges and high rises use fasteners. I was thinking of doing that, but some places are difficult to access with fastener gun. I also consider adhesives superior to welding - this is based on my own research, I've been wrong many times before. They use adhesives on new carbon fiber Boeing 787, Airbus has been gluing tail stabilizers for a while now. The disadvantage to gluing is the wait for it to set and cure - not good for mass production evironment where time is money. In my case it's not a problem. Thanks, Mike. The new Aston Martins are aluminum unibody that is glued together. They were showing the process on HD theatre (I think) and the engineers said that it is sronger than welding. I saw that show and that's where I got the idea and started researching it. |
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