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pics of 914 turbo plumbing |
mattillac |
Nov 8 2004, 04:27 PM
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robots! Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 27-October 04 From: vallejo,ca Member No.: 3,020 |
i was considering aftermarket pefi and a turbo for my
type-4 914, but plumbing the turbo without cutting out the trunk or using really long tubing seems difficult. anyone have a 914 with a turbo? any pictures? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/monkeydance.gif) |
Joe Bob |
Nov 8 2004, 04:34 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
ME FIRST....YOU CAN"T TURBO A 914...... <_<
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Mueller |
Nov 8 2004, 05:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
if you could really turbo a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) , then you could mount the turbo in the engine compartment and run the exhaust up to it...the easiest would be to have the exhaust come up in front of the engine to the turbo....of all of the turbo's I've seen in 914s, the turbo is place either way in the back near the muffler with the intake tube being real long, or with the turbo mounted in the engine compartment with the exhaust tube being real long....both methods work and unless you are building a car that you need to extract the very last bit of HP out of, pretty much any method is going to work....that is of course if you could turbo a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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mattillac |
Nov 8 2004, 05:47 PM
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robots! Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 27-October 04 From: vallejo,ca Member No.: 3,020 |
well, i'll try both and post my pics when i'm done, in about 3 to 5 years. <_<
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 8 2004, 05:49 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
turn the engine upside down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Ed?!?! Are ya out there? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Check back issues of Excellence for Ed's ride. |
nein14 |
Nov 8 2004, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 838 Joined: 6-February 03 From: USA Member No.: 262 |
As the current owner of EvilEd's turbo 914 you can turbo a 914 and it's a blast to drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 8 2004, 06:53 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Well... post some pics for Matt already! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
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ChrisReale |
Nov 8 2004, 07:36 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
AirSix also has a Turbo with custom plumbing on his 1.7L
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Mueller |
Nov 8 2004, 07:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(nein14 @ Nov 8 2004, 05:51 PM) As the current owner of EvilEd's turbo 914 you can turbo a 914 and it's a blast to drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) and "somebody" was supposed to give us some dyno numbers !?!?!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
iamchappy |
Nov 8 2004, 07:57 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Cutting a few holes in the trunk is the easiest, you maybe able to use the existing
holes by removing the seam sealer from around them. The nice thing about running from the back is that all the pieces can be attached to the crossover pipe and can be removed in one piece. Attached image(s) |
Mueller |
Nov 8 2004, 08:04 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
iamchappy,
what is your max angle for a driveway??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) from that picture it looks like the turbo "stuff" would hit the pavement going up a steep incline.... |
URY914 |
Nov 8 2004, 08:20 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,026 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is a 914-4 turbo...
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URY914 |
Nov 8 2004, 08:22 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,026 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
It has been done...
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ppickerell |
Nov 8 2004, 08:26 PM
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914 addicted Group: Members Posts: 1,679 Joined: 14-October 03 From: Pleasanton, CA. Member No.: 1,246 |
So who wants to talk about designing a easy bolt on T4 turbo installion kit. What's the HP gain? What's the price point that would work?
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mattillac |
Nov 8 2004, 08:30 PM
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robots! Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 27-October 04 From: vallejo,ca Member No.: 3,020 |
QUOTE(iamchappy @ Nov 8 2004, 05:57 PM) Cutting a few holes in the trunk is the easiest, you maybe able to use the existing holes by removing the seam sealer from around them. The nice thing about running from the back is that all the pieces can be attached to the crossover pipe and can be removed in one piece. i like the way that turbo looks hanging out the back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) i think thats the way i'll go when i turbo. i'm signing up for welding and machine shop class tomorrow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/monkeydance.gif) |
iamchappy |
Nov 8 2004, 09:01 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am refabricating the rear crossover pipe to raise it up another 2 inches to help the drain angle on the oil drain. It looks lower than it really is, look at the height of the exhaust pipes.
Here is how a turbo looks in my car. Attached image(s) |
airsix |
Nov 8 2004, 11:01 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 8 2004, 03:02 PM) ....of all of the turbo's I've seen in 914s, the turbo is place either way in the back near the muffler with the intake tube being real long, or with the turbo mounted in the engine compartment with the exhaust tube being real long.... Mine is actually somewhere inbetween. My turbo is 1/2 in the engine compartment and 1/2 out. I don't have any decent pictures, but I'll try to draw you a visual image. The turbo is located on the passenger side almost exactly opposite the starter. The rear vertical engine cooling tin piece has been cut and the compressor (cold) side of the turbo peeks into the engine compartment through the hole cut in the tin. The turbine (hot) side of the turbo is outside the engine compartment along side the bellhousing at about the 2:00 possition. The exit side of the compressor points straight back running paralel to the bottom of the trunk with about 2 inches clearance. Oil drainback is gravity feed into the right valve-cover. I used an IHI turbo from a 1.8 Subaru. It seems to be sized well. Boost starts at 2,300rpm and is still pulling when my injectors saturate at around 5,700rpm @12psi. (I'm working on getting some bigger injectors). Not including the PEFI, adding the turbo only cost $175 for everything. Turbo & all the plumbing: $175 PEFI on the cheap: $500 Pulling away from a late model Impala: Priceless. Pulling away again when he comes back for more: Priceless^2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) -Ben M. |
mattillac |
Nov 9 2004, 01:52 AM
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robots! Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 27-October 04 From: vallejo,ca Member No.: 3,020 |
airsix, did you modify your oil pump to help supply the turbo? can you still fit your targa top in there? the car looks great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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redshift |
Nov 9 2004, 02:01 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(iamchappy @ Nov 8 2004, 09:57 PM) Cutting a few holes ..... Dood, that -radio edit- has a big fat -radio edit-! Pic looks great! YOU ARE AN EVIL GENIUS! M |
Mueller |
Nov 9 2004, 02:17 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ppickerell @ Nov 8 2004, 07:26 PM) So who wants to talk about designing a easy bolt on T4 turbo installion kit. What's the HP gain? What's the price point that would work? it's the fuel/ignition management that is the killer of this idea...I don't know enough (nor do I care right now) about the stock FI to get it to work properly....once you add on an aftermarket FI, the cost just starts to skyrocket unless you get some of the smart guys like Ben to do thier own fuel systems....... making the brackets and adapters are no big deal, the tubing if you want custom exhaust will be costly..of course no reason that it just couldn't be based on the stock or SSI heat exchangers like the few that are already up and running...the cost of the turbos vary.....I bought a used turbo similar to Bens for $75, i also have 2 newer more modern rebuilt turbos that I bought for $250 each. I only plan on using one...it's rated for 168hp...I was thinking that when i put everything together for my turbo motor, I'd build/make all the parts in duplicate and sell the 2nd "kit" once my installation was somewhat proven to work..not really looking to make a profit, I just would like to break even (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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