Adding Cruise control to my suby conversion, For those long trips to help keep me from speeding! LOL |
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Adding Cruise control to my suby conversion, For those long trips to help keep me from speeding! LOL |
JRust |
Mar 5 2015, 10:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,309 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Okay so I am looking to add aftermarket cruise control to my suby conversion. I want to add it because I have a tendency on long drive to let my speed creep up. Really want to keep from getting any tickets.
I wasn't totally sure how cruise was integrated. I thought it might work through the stock ECU. I have the Stinger ECU from Outfront. So I gave them a call to ask. While the guy didn't outright laugh at me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . He did say I've never had anyone ask me that before. He then proceeded to tell me the ECU wouldn't have anything to do with that. You would need some type of speed sensor. Then whatever Cruise control unit you bought would integrate with that. Or something along those lines. So I think on this a bit. I have aftermarket Speedhut gauges. They are GPS based for the speed. I don't believe there is a speed sensor for them. Huh would I have to add a speed sensor just to run cruise? I figured I'll call Speedhut to see if there is something they do or recommend to add cruise with their gauges. Gal says you just send me your speedometer gauge. They have added a cruise control output recently as an option. Well cool (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) . Going to call back tomorrow to see what the turn around is. Might just be overnighting it monday to them. Really depends on that turn around. Be great to have for my trip to Vegas & then Route 66 later this month. Anyone here added cruise control aftermarket before. Is there a unit hearing how mine will run from my speed hut gauge you would recommend? |
Mike Bellis |
Mar 5 2015, 10:39 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
You just need a magnet glued to your CV to make a speed sensor. Many aftermarket cruise control units come with one. Audiovox used to make a pretty good unit. You can probably find one on ebay.
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76-914 |
Mar 5 2015, 11:03 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,611 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Jaime, your running a Suby trans, right? If so use the sender off it. IIRC, it has 4 wires but you only need 2 of them.
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Elliot Cannon |
Mar 6 2015, 12:43 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) A water cooled engine isn't enough? So, what's next? Power windows? Heated seats? White side wall tires? A fu**ing heater? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Kansas 914 |
Mar 6 2015, 09:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 1-March 03 From: Durango, Colorado Member No.: 373 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) A water cooled engine isn't enough? So, what's next? Power windows? Heated seats? White side wall tires? A fu**ing heater? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Have you seen his air conditioner thread? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
mgp4591 |
Mar 6 2015, 09:54 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,457 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Jaime, I think you're making the air cooled guys jealous! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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DBCooper |
Mar 6 2015, 12:07 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
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Kansas 914 |
Mar 6 2015, 01:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 1-March 03 From: Durango, Colorado Member No.: 373 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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76-914 |
Mar 6 2015, 04:24 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,611 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
While your in there Jamie, you might as well add Heated Seats. Your alt can handle the load. It will be the best $50 you'll spend in the cabin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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JRust |
Mar 6 2015, 05:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,309 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
While your in there Jamie, you might as well add Heated Seats. Your alt can handle the load. It will be the best $50 you'll spend in the cabin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I will do that. Thinking of getting a pair of seats recovered while adding a little bolster down low. Then do seat heaters at the same time. Elliot my car is already bastardized! May as well be comfortable too. Nothing like a 15 hour drive in a day to realize I need some creature comforts in my 914. The nice thing will be you won't even know most of it. While bastardized it is done subtly & still hold true to the character of a 914. I'll remember those scoffing at me while I pass them doing 120 in 100+ degree weather with my windows rolled up & 70 degree air conditioned cabin. All of it while looking absolutely kick ass (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) I do have tinted windows so my ugly mug won't screw it all up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Here is one unit I was thinking about http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rostra-250-1223-Un...=item3cc40a8efe |
computers4kids |
Mar 6 2015, 10:08 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Jamie, Jamie, Jamie..., I love you brother but...I remember the day when you heckled me for putting ac on my 914....then the day came when you did the same (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Now you want cruise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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Mike Bellis |
Mar 6 2015, 10:13 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Looks like a good unit with modern electronics. I'm not in love with the switch but it will work. |
JRust |
Mar 6 2015, 10:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,309 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Looks like a good unit with modern electronics. I'm not in love with the switch but it will work. Yeah was thinking of putting it on the center console. A little stealth on the front of center pocket. Not sure yet but easily accessible there & not to obvious. They have the cruise control arm but didn't like the idea of putting that on the steering column. Here is that one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rostra-250-1223-Un...=item3cca7016ea |
gryphon68 |
Mar 7 2015, 07:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 2-October 13 From: SE Michigan Member No.: 16,462 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I don't think there is anything fancy about those switches. Just momentary, normally open circuits. Would be easy enough to wire into some other switch of your choice, but you need four switches total for full control.
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914forme |
Mar 8 2015, 07:32 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Or (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Use a latter 911 Carrera Column in the 914 spot. Totally different column, but they have a factory Cruise switch on a stalk, and then leave it to the Miata guys to write up how to rewire one to work with a factory switch!!
Not sure I like where the Porsche put the stalk on the 911 though. But I have been toying with the idea myself on my build. |
914forme |
Mar 8 2015, 07:38 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
It looks almost like it was an after thought!!!
That might make it easier to be an after thought on a 914 also. Different switch gear completely, but no reason it can't be done. After all Mike grafted that VW steering column into his 914. Not my thing, but I do appreciate all the work that went into do that, the wiring alone would have driven me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
914forme |
Mar 8 2015, 08:28 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
And then well, you know them tail draggers had cruise control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Switch is less than $80 new at a Porsche Dealer. 1976 Porsche 930 had them as an option, might be able to make it work with a little (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) The early 944 switch is over $400 new at the same stealership!!! Better chance of fitting the column though as the 924 switches did with minor work.
Of course I hope no one will admit to it, but I am sure a few 911 / 914-6 with hand throttles used them for a very crude cruise control. Middle of the night run from Vegas to Salt Lake City comes to mind.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) Or any run across Kansas on I-70 heading to Colorado, them damn Mountains can be seen for 8 hours before your even close. But once you get there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) the torture was well worth it!!!! |
JRust |
Mar 8 2015, 09:31 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,309 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yeah I'm going to stay away from the column. I'll use the first of the 2 I believe. Once I get my gauge reworked at Speedhut it should be pretty straight forward. I think I can even manage to do it myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Mar 8 2015, 10:19 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
don't melt any wires.
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76-914 |
Mar 16 2015, 06:23 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,611 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Jaime, did you pull the trigger on this yet?
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