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Oil Slick, Oh where, oh where, does the oil go? |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:26 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Let me get this straight!
The new oil pump now has a line coming from it off of its bilet plate "D". The filter bilet cover, covers where the old filter went. A & B ? Where does the line from the new oil pump cover return to???? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Attached image(s) |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:28 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
This is the original way oil lines were plumbed.
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ArtechnikA |
Mar 18 2005, 02:30 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
the fitting that is tapped into the oil gallery ?
at least that's where it went on the T-I's when we did this mod ... T-IV's i donno zackly... |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:33 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I am trying to remote both the cooler and the filter.
So the line coming off the pump will go through "in series" the filter(s) then the cooler, then back where??? Please God, this is simple right??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:35 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Rich, There are 5 galley plugs that have to be tapped. Right?
Which one would I return to.??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/icon8.gif) |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:41 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
There are three galley plugs that need to be tapped and plugged behind the flywheel.
There are two ajacent to the old filter mount. Looks to me it would be easier to just plug those too. And get some sort of a bilet fiting to return the oil to where the filter was. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) |
BMartin914 |
Mar 18 2005, 02:48 PM
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Where are you mounting your cooler Joe?
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Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:52 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ben, I am not sure yet. Thinking a remote fan/coil somewhere/anywhere or just a coil in flow through scoops on the side of the car???? How you doing?
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BMartin914 |
Mar 18 2005, 02:55 PM
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Doing good.
I have been contemplating mounting a cooler at an angle, next to the trans with an electric fan. I know this is a big topic of debate, but it seems like a possible solution for more cooling when the car is just a driver, not a racer. |
ArtechnikA |
Mar 18 2005, 02:57 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
in the T-I's we'd plug the 'normal return from the pump into the case then use some sort of output in the cover to route the oil through the "effects loop" (the musicians will understand this analogy ...). the cooled / filtered / whatevered oil was then returned to the oil gallery via a fitting drilled and tapped at about the 10 o'clock position relative to the oil pump.
those cases had a cooler, for which blockoff (loop-over) plates are available, and used to be a good place to mount an oil temp sender. they had no filter, of course... for T-IV's - i just don't know - i'm trying to be helpful and failing miserably.... you plugged the 'normal' oil outlet from the pump to the case, yes ? |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 02:58 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You know some 914 had defectors on the bottom of the car that forced more air to be turbulent underneath. Thinking also putting a scoop down there through duct to a cooler???
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BMartin914 |
Mar 18 2005, 03:03 PM
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I know, mine does! Somebody on this board has fab'd a duct to route air through a cooler mounted underneath. Ferg's car (2.7 soon to be 3.2) has (had) a cooler mounted under the car, at an angle, on the passenger side. Nice fab job. Worth checking out. I am going to put a numbered oil temp gauge in next weekend with a CORRECT sender and see if I really do need the cooler (you can't tell much when your gauge is pegging at 230) for Moab. |
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Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 03:07 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I play the stereo! And I have for years.
I haven't done anything except buy Jakes Full flow kit. It has a screaming Schadek 30mm Rabized pump, cam gear, pump bilet with a fitting coming off it and a bilet cap to cap off the filter mount. |
Teknon |
Mar 18 2005, 03:12 PM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ben, If you find that thread send it to me huh. Maybe if Ferg is doing something different I could purchase it from him.
Looks like Im following his footsteps. Except mine will be a 2.3. |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 18 2005, 04:22 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,048 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
It seems to me that, if you are "remoting" the filter and cooler, and you want to maintain the stock functionality, that you want the connections to be exactly the same as they are now. Just with lots of hose making the connection instead of short passages through the crankcase.
D would go to H; G to C; F to B; and A to E. If you want to change the stock functionality, then you need to re-arrange things somewhat. --DD |
machina |
Mar 18 2005, 04:28 PM
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does this help?
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ArtechnikA |
Mar 18 2005, 04:32 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
and no instructions ? contact Jake and get the instructions ! (otherwise, you didn't get a 'kit' - you got a box of parts.) |
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Jake Raby |
Mar 18 2005, 04:49 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I have been working on the instructions for this kit, but trying to put it in writing clearly isn't simple....
Thats why every one of those"Kits" has a note stating to contact me for verbal instructions to make sure its fully understood..... (When the parts are in hand email me and I'll call you) That oil system diagram won't do you any good on this one.... The pic that Synthesis posted will, because he has my engine and that very system... Writing instructions for all the kits I offer is taing a long while... I am going to end up posting ALL them to the net to make it easier to get color pics with them.. Until then we'll have to keep doing it verbally and making sure its clear. |
Teknon |
Mar 19 2005, 07:24 AM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That would be what I need. Thank you for posting. Joe |
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ArtechnikA |
Mar 19 2005, 07:30 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
i can't tell -- are you still using the factory cooler in that picture? i got the impression Joe was trying to use a remote cooler instead of the factory cooler. is there a block-off plate for T-IV's like there used to be for the T-I's ? |
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