watercooled radiator photos, Subaru, Maxda, V6, V8 etc, Please post radiator setups, need some design ideas |
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watercooled radiator photos, Subaru, Maxda, V6, V8 etc, Please post radiator setups, need some design ideas |
dmenche914 |
Oct 13 2006, 04:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 27-February 03 From: California Member No.: 366 |
Would folks with water cooled 914's please post some photos of your radiator set up, and details of what metal was cut for inlet, outlet holes, fan details, etc... also list type / size of motor you are cooling. Looking for proven idea on a cooling system for a Buick V6 engine 3.8 liter. Like to see what has been done for any water cooled engine, V6, V8, Subaru, mazda etc... Thinking maybe a front bumper area inlet, adn with right ducting an outlet/fan on trunk floor. I kind of like Philip hauns set up (Blue Thunder car) but waant to check out other options. The "holy grail would be to locate the enitre cooling system in the engine bay, but I thinkt here is too many space, heat issues. What have you all done? thanks in advance |
Phoenix-MN |
Oct 13 2006, 07:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
This setup is yet to be proven, but this is how I am doing my Buick 3.8.
http://www.phoenixhobbies.com/html/cooling.html Paul |
jimkelly |
Oct 13 2006, 07:43 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
how much did will this cost in parts?
renegade's system is about $1150 shipped. |
Phoenix-MN |
Oct 13 2006, 07:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Jim,
I figure I have spent a little over $800.00 so far. Maybe a little bit more to finish it off. (keep in mind that setup was sized for 3.8 V6 with about 250 - 275 HP, a V8 would require a larger radiator) |
Nickm1 |
Oct 13 2006, 08:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Madison Heights, MI Member No.: 3,966 |
I use an electric water pump with griffin radiator. 305 ci V8
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nicksws6/det...jpg&.src=ph http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nicksws6/det...jpg&.src=ph |
jsteele22 |
Oct 13 2006, 09:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO Member No.: 4,653 |
Great thread, keep the pics coming. Nickm1 : In your photos I saw a front quarter shot, and the air intake wasn't visible; does the air come in from below the bumper ? Nickm1 & PhoenixNM : both of your setups blow air into the front trunk; where does it exit ? Fender cutout ? |
Phoenix-MN |
Oct 13 2006, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
jsteele22,
Fender/wheel well cutout for me. Paul |
dmenche914 |
Oct 13 2006, 09:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 27-February 03 From: California Member No.: 366 |
anyone with experience with a front bumper area intake, and a trunk floor outlet? (rather than inner fender well outlets) that would be my prefered system I think, as long as it cools ok. I am doing a 3.8 V6.
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Nickm1 |
Oct 13 2006, 11:05 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Madison Heights, MI Member No.: 3,966 |
The intake is just below the front bumper. And there are 2 giant holes cut into the wheel wells. You can sort of see them in the pictures. I'll try to take some better pictures for you. The front intake doesn't seem to be working well for me though. At high speeds 80+ there isn't any airflow and I overheat. Better shrouding around the fan might fix that problem also.
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jsteele22 |
Oct 13 2006, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO Member No.: 4,653 |
anyone with experience with a front bumper area intake, and a trunk floor outlet? (rather than inner fender well outlets) that would be my prefered system I think, as long as it cools ok. I am doing a 3.8 V6. Well, that would be great for me, 'cause I've got a huge gaping hole there already - my car had the dealer A/C. Unfortunately, the area under the car is somewhat high in pressure. If you imagine flow lines of air travelling around/over/under the car, then the ones that pass under the car converge, meaning the air is getting squished. On the side of the car, OTOH, the lines spread out as they pass over the front of the wheel well opening (some of the air that was going straight turns into the wheel well area), so this is a low pressure area. Hmmm, now that I think of it, has anybody put a radiator flat on the floor of the trunk, and vented it upwards and out the wheel wells ? Then you could seal off that area between the headlights and have a mini-trunk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
dakotaewing |
Oct 13 2006, 11:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,160 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Nick -
As you mentioned, better shrouding around your fan would probably solve your problem, as well as going to a 2 fan set up with the better shrouding - Can you guys who are using the Griffin radiators tell me which model # and where are you getting them ??? |
Phoenix-MN |
Oct 13 2006, 11:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Bought it from Summit Racing, I think the part number was
Went back and looked at the order form and the part number is 2-58190-X http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.a...mp;autoview=sku Paul |
dakotaewing |
Oct 13 2006, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,160 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Bought it from Summit Racing, I think the part number was 2-28185-X http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.a...mp;autoview=sku Paul Thanks Paul - |
jsteele22 |
Oct 13 2006, 02:11 PM
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Kind of an impulse buy, but I just bought 2 radiators off EBay.. Aftermarket replacment radiators for Honda Del Sol (mid engine, anyways...). The core size is just under 14" x 14" x 5/8". And it includes a transmission oil cooler. The application was for a 1.6 L engine, so I figure 2 should work if I can find some airflow.. Plastic tanks, but what's a CSOB supposed to do ? Both radiators, including S&H for $75. Sorry, no more at that price (unless I can't get mine to fit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Don't have a definite plan for where to put them yet, but I'm gonna start out seaching for room in the engine bay. |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 13 2006, 02:16 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
Kind of an impulse buy, but I just bought 2 radiators off EBay.. Aftermarket replacment radiators for Honda Del Sol (mid engine, anyways...). The core size is just under 14" x 14" x 5/8". And it includes a transmission oil cooler. The application was for a 1.6 L engine, so I figure 2 should work if I can find some airflow.. Plastic tanks, but what's a CSOB supposed to do ? Both radiators, including S&H for $75. Sorry, no more at that price (unless I can't get mine to fit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Don't have a definite plan for where to put them yet, but I'm gonna start out seaching for room in the engine bay. Del SLows are fron engine.... |
dlo914 |
Oct 13 2006, 03:28 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
Unless you came upon this Del Slow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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jsteele22 |
Oct 13 2006, 03:38 PM
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pjhaun |
Oct 13 2006, 09:29 PM
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Front Trunk.
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pjhaun |
Oct 13 2006, 10:04 PM
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Radiator.
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pjhaun |
Oct 13 2006, 10:06 PM
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Radiator and Shroud.
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