How much does the Engine/Transmission Weigh? |
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How much does the Engine/Transmission Weigh? |
ericread |
Apr 9 2008, 10:50 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
I am getting ready to drop my engine/transmission this weekend (1974 2.0L w/original FI - all stock).
How much does the engine + tansmission weigh? Harbor Freight has a transmission jack for $60.00 bucks. Will this work OK for me? 450 LB. CAPACITY TRANSMISSION JACK Perfect for removing transmissions on smaller vehicles. Heavy duty steel construction with ball bearing easy-roll casters. Includes 2''W x 43''L nylon strap to secure the load. Works with any 1/2'' drive ratchet handle (not included). Saddle tilts for easy positioning Maximum capacity: 450 lbs. Lift range: 7-1/4'' to 23-1/4'' Cradle size: 6-7/8'' x 13'' 3'' non-marring swivel casters Overall dimensions: 16-1/2''L x 15-5/8''W x 8''H Tool weight: 33.25 lbs. |
SLITS |
Apr 9 2008, 11:24 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Engine about 350 lbs .... tranny about 80 lbs
3 ton floor jack works wonderfully |
TravisNeff |
Apr 9 2008, 11:49 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You need to use a rachet to raise or lower that jack, better havea lot of extensions. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be under the engine when it is all free from the mounts - jack or not.
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ericread |
Apr 9 2008, 11:53 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
You need to use a rachet to raise or lower that jack, better havea lot of extensions. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be under the engine when it is all free from the mounts - jack or not. So how about the Harbor Freight unit described above? Any downside to using that? |
G e o r g e |
Apr 9 2008, 12:04 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None |
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TravisNeff |
Apr 9 2008, 12:11 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I used that HF jack to remove an engine/trans once (with lots of extensions and an air rachet. It worked, but it bent the saddle and was definately at it's max with the engine/trans on it. I didn't use it to put the engine back in, I used a standard jack.
Check out an ATV jack instead. Make sure it is the kind that the jack moves with the handle. Lemme see if I can find a pic |
TravisNeff |
Apr 9 2008, 12:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
This jack is no good. I know because I have one. Since the bottle jack portion doesn't move it gets in the way of the transmission.
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TravisNeff |
Apr 9 2008, 12:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
This style would be a better choice
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ericread |
Apr 9 2008, 12:20 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
This style would be a better choice THANKS! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I see I almost made a mistake here. I will look for what you are recommending. Where did you get yours? |
degreeoff |
Apr 9 2008, 12:31 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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TravisNeff |
Apr 9 2008, 12:39 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
This style would be a better choice THANKS! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I see I almost made a mistake here. I will look for what you are recommending. Where did you get yours? I have all the ones that I don't recomend, lol. I like Chris Foley's jack attachment, or the ATV jack I showed you - I did a google image search for ATV jack - looks like those run about $150 |
ericread |
Apr 9 2008, 12:43 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
Anybody out there in SoCal got one i can use for the weekend??? I'm in Irvine (south Orange County) and the offer comes with a case of beer!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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Cevan |
Apr 9 2008, 01:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 7,351 |
Engine about 350 lbs .... tranny about 80 lbs 3 ton floor jack works wonderfully I have to disagree with the motor being 350 pounds. My wife and I lifted one of my motors into the bed of my pickup. I doubt she can dead lift 175 lbs. My guess is the motor weighs about 180-200 lbs. Why not use a furniture dolly and use the Pelican method? I made mine for $20 using wheels from Home Depot (2 swivel and 2 stationary) and 2x4s I had lying around. |
ericread |
Apr 9 2008, 02:04 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
Engine about 350 lbs .... tranny about 80 lbs 3 ton floor jack works wonderfully I have to disagree with the motor being 350 pounds. My wife and I lifted one of my motors into the bed of my pickup. I doubt she can dead lift 175 lbs. My guess is the motor weighs about 180-200 lbs. Why not use a furniture dolly and use the Pelican method? I made mine for $20 using wheels from Home Depot (2 swivel and 2 stationary) and 2x4s I had lying around. Without imnplying any disrespect whatsoever, what's your wife doing this weekend? OK, I'm just kidding - thanks for the advice. (Got to be realllly careful with the wife humor...) |
bperry |
Apr 9 2008, 02:17 PM
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Lurker Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: 16-February 04 From: Dallas, Tx Member No.: 1,661 |
I bought the Motorcycle lift from SAMs a couple of years ago for $80.
It works great. I wish it had a bit more lift, but I was able to easily remove and install the engine by myself. I think if I were doing it again, I'd look for a nice low profile transmission jack that had a removable plate so that it could function as normal jack. Also from what I've seen, the transmission jacks seem to have alot more lift height. In other words I'd rather spend a little bit more to have a second jack that is dual function with lots of lift height than to have a nice "914 engine remover" jack. Or get Chris's custom plates and use it on a nice low profile jack. (Again, dual functionality vs a dedicated 914 engine jack). Or if you are a CSOB like many of us and already have a jack you could try one of these transmission adapter plates. Not as stable or as nice as Chris's plate but quite a bit cheaper from HarborFreight. Actually its cheaper than the lift you originally were looking at. --- bill |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 9 2008, 02:23 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Engine about 350 lbs .... tranny about 80 lbs 3 ton floor jack works wonderfully I have to disagree with the motor being 350 pounds. My wife and I lifted one of my motors into the bed of my pickup. I doubt she can dead lift 175 lbs. My guess is the motor weighs about 180-200 lbs. Why not use a furniture dolly and use the Pelican method? I made mine for $20 using wheels from Home Depot (2 swivel and 2 stationary) and 2x4s I had lying around. Ummm... she must be strong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The engine with everything on it is rather heavy and is much more that 200lbs. |
akellym |
Apr 9 2008, 02:36 PM
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Eyes Of The Deep Battle Group: Members Posts: 598 Joined: 25-July 04 From: Annandale, MN Member No.: 2,395 Region Association: Northstar Region |
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JeffBowlsby |
Apr 9 2008, 02:47 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,663 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Factory manual says the 1.7/1.8L engine weighs 278 lbs. FWIW
Add HEs, Trans, starter and exhaust to that if you pull them out as a unit. |
HAM Inc |
Apr 9 2008, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Our race ready engine and 901 tranny, bolted together weighed 293 on our race scales. It had nickies and that was without the Tangerine header. Iron cylinders and factory HE's will add a few pounds.
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Gint |
Apr 9 2008, 04:44 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,093 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Hey Len,
You probably didn't have the stock tin and junk installed did you? |
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