Wiring help for conversion, Butchered 2.7 wire harness |
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Wiring help for conversion, Butchered 2.7 wire harness |
kfish914 |
Jun 15 2010, 12:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Osceola, Indiana Member No.: 9,026 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
OK I am trying to figure out the wiring for my 2.7 conversion and I see this. I talked with the PO and he hadn’t done any wiring changes, so he was not any help in why the additions to the harness. I should also point out that I am an idiot when it comes to auto wiring. The first photo I just need some one to confirm the wires for me.
Thanks for any help |
914Sixer |
Jun 16 2010, 06:13 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,989 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You might want to contact Perry Kiel, a member here. He makes new harnesses for -6's. Judging from what I see here, you would benefit from a new one.
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kfish914 |
Jun 16 2010, 08:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Osceola, Indiana Member No.: 9,026 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks for the feed back. I will contact him. I am out of work at this time so I am trying to spend my "car funds" wisely, and save money where I can.
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windforfun |
Jun 16 2010, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,956 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Are you good at soldering? Crimp connectors should be avoided especially for splices. For splices, go with a "Bell telephone" connection where one twists the wires togther length-wise. You then solder the connection & cover it with shrink tubing. Don't cut any strands either since this can cause additional resistance. Be patient with wire harness repairs & be sure to do it right.
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Scott S |
Jun 16 2010, 10:59 AM
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Small Member Group: Members Posts: 1,698 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 633 |
Perry built my 2.7 conversion harness - it may be the nicest part on my entire car. I show it off more than the motor that is sitting on the stand next to it...
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 16 2010, 11:01 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Are you good at soldering? Crimp connectors should be avoided especially for splices. For splices, go with a "Bell telephone" connection where one twists the wires togther length-wise. You then solder the connection & cover it with shrink tubing. Don't cut any strands either since this can cause additional resistance. Be patient with wire harness repairs & be sure to do it right. Sorry, but soldering connections for cars is currently WAY out of favor. Manufacturers specifically FORBID their service personnel from doing it. Crimps, properly done, are mandated. That goes for aircraft, too, only more. The Cap'n |
windforfun |
Jun 16 2010, 11:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,956 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Are you good at soldering? Crimp connectors should be avoided especially for splices. For splices, go with a "Bell telephone" connection where one twists the wires togther length-wise. You then solder the connection & cover it with shrink tubing. Don't cut any strands either since this can cause additional resistance. Be patient with wire harness repairs & be sure to do it right. Sorry, but soldering connections for cars is currently WAY out of favor. Manufacturers specifically FORBID their service personnel from doing it. Crimps, properly done, are mandated. That goes for aircraft, too, only more. The Cap'n Ever notice how MBZ solders all of their crimp connections? Of course dealers don't recommend it, it's hard as hell to do right (especially when the harness is buried in the car) & therefore very expensive. |
IronHillRestorations |
Jun 16 2010, 11:44 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,759 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I guess I'm out of favor. I crimp and solder all connections on my harnesses, and wouldn't do it any other way.
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Root_Werks |
Jun 16 2010, 04:03 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,424 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Duct tape mine.
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windforfun |
Jun 16 2010, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,956 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
BTW, if you must use crimp connectors, do not "tin" the wire with solder beforehand. The crimp will loosen with time. Only apply solder afterwards while you melt the connector's plastic sleeve & make a big ugly mess. But seriously, if you're going to solder a crimp connector, first remove the plastic sleeve & then apply the solder. Use shrink tubing to cover the shank of the connector & adjacent wire. Slip the shrink tubing over the wire before you crimp & solder the connector.
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IronHillRestorations |
Jun 16 2010, 10:53 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,759 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Detail shot of the CD Box plug on one of my harnesses.
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kfish914 |
Jun 18 2010, 09:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Osceola, Indiana Member No.: 9,026 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Does any one know why he PO would have split the white wire into two?? (the two red ones) one with a female spade copnnector and the other with a nut connector?? If I could figure that out I might be able fix this harness.
Thanks for all your help now that i have the time to work on it, I really want to get it on th road again. Flush out the gas and brakes and of course put the motor in and i could be driving (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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