Exhaust choice, '74 914 2.0L... good exhaust??? |
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Exhaust choice, '74 914 2.0L... good exhaust??? |
basenji7 |
Apr 20 2004, 11:17 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 20-April 04 From: dallas, tx Member No.: 1,953 |
'74 914 2.0L
I'm trying to decide between the Pacesetter Monza Dual Exhaust or the Bursch Exhaust? Does anyone know of any performance difference? What is the sound difference? I currently have the Bursch exhaust. thx.....d (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) |
Rusty |
Apr 20 2004, 11:21 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,952 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Welcome, welcome, welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Another Texas member - cool!
There are a very select few who love the Monza exhaust (Pam being one of them, so I need to be careful)... but it rusts as soon as it comes out of the box. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) I replaced a Monza with a Bursch, and liked it. Pam didn't. What is your intended application? Do you have headers or HEs? Is this a street car or autocross machine? FI or carbs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) We have lots of questions. And no thread would be complete without the following: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
Trekkor |
Apr 20 2004, 11:26 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a '74 2.0 also with the Bursch exaust.
It is my understanding that this is one of only exausts out there that actually improves performance AND tone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) trekkor |
Jake Raby |
Apr 20 2004, 11:51 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Bursch, tHose Monzas cost engines in alot of cases... Seen stockers with smoked exhaust seats from them. When they get old the baffles colapse and create huge backpressure.
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MattR |
Apr 21 2004, 01:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
I have monza's on my car (well actually sitting in my garage because my engine is in pieces). I am really thinking of getting something different. I just dont like the quad exhaust look. I outlet per cylinder seems kinda ricey for me... and they stick out too far i think. I might go with something more stock, like a single tip, just for my personal taste.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 21 2004, 06:27 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,309 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I've had both. Go with the Bursch
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seanery |
Apr 21 2004, 07:03 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I've had both. Now, I have a Triad. I like the sounds of the triad and the looks. Do a search here for Triad and you'll find quite a few thumbs up and some audio files of my car.
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Mark Henry |
Apr 21 2004, 07:05 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I have an Ansa, on my JYD (junk yard dog) engine right now, it looks like a Monza.
it's way heavier than a Monza and it was free. I will get a header when I do my big T4, Any opinion on these? |
JWest |
Apr 21 2004, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 97 Region Association: None |
Where in Dallas are you? Our cars are twins ('74 2.0).
If you currently have the Bursch stick with it. Don't use the Monza. Besides the performance and quality issues, it really hurts when you walk in back of the car and hit you shin on those pipes sticking out! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) |
Gint |
Apr 21 2004, 08:28 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,093 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with everyone. Get the Bursch. Unless you have more bucks, then the Triad would be a nice choice.
Welcome to the club! |
smg914 |
Apr 21 2004, 08:41 AM
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Sahara Beige Steve Group: Members Posts: 1,968 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 1,695 Region Association: None |
Not only does the Bursch look better and sound better, it also improves engine performance (torque and horspower) over the ansa, monza and stock systems.
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Joe Bob |
Apr 21 2004, 08:44 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Rusty is wrong....they start rusting IN the box.....
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) Raby is correct, my first project car had a Monza and it was so backed up that the engine would not push past 3500 rpms.... |
Bleyseng |
Apr 21 2004, 08:51 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
By Grassroots exhaust tests the Bursch was the best of the non oem units producing a whopping 1-2 hp boost at 3000 rpms. The stock OEM banana produced the most hp over the entire rpm range.
Lots of Triad units up here in the NW but no hard numbers on a 4 cylinder 914 that I know of. Get a bursch as for the money its pretty good. Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
7391420 |
Apr 21 2004, 09:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 6-August 03 From: boston, ma Member No.: 988 |
The PO put a monza on my car, I haven't had any problems with it, and it doesn't stick out much at all. I'd say that the exhaust tips are maybe 1/2 an inch out from the rear bumper, if that and maybe are actually flush. I will say though, that it is a bit loud, but the sound is great, not cheap sounding, but just good sweet engine humming at speed and when on the gas hard.
I'd be interested in hearing what people think about sound level between these two? one louder than the other? Mine has maybe 15k miles on it, and isn't rusting, i'd bet I'll get at least another 20k or so. |
basenji7 |
Apr 26 2004, 03:19 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 20-April 04 From: dallas, tx Member No.: 1,953 |
Sounds like I will be sticking with my Bursch for a while but I will look in to the Triad.
Daily Driver Momo wheel, Momo shift knob, Bursh exhaust, euro pistons, FI, no header and all of the '74 options. Many more AX's and TT's ahead of me. Sad but no pictures... I'll be sure to have some soon... |
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