With contest for free pad and shipping see post #24, 4 left -Engine firewall pad - $75 each will be $125 after the GB |
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With contest for free pad and shipping see post #24, 4 left -Engine firewall pad - $75 each will be $125 after the GB |
Mikey914 |
Jun 2 2012, 02:09 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I'm doing up the tooling to do these in quantity. It will be done end of this next week. I did a test fit part and it looks pretty good, I'll be fitting in my car tomorrow.
Construction is from a closed cell fire retardant rubber that has some sound proof rating. It will not absorb water or oil. An excellent replacement for the OEM wool pad that promotes rust by holding the water against the firewall. More pictures tomorrow. This picture shows the cut pad next to the OEM. The ones in production will have the same holes as the OEM for grounds. Attached thumbnail(s) |
billh1963 |
Jun 2 2012, 05:06 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,403 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
Cool! I assume a group buy will be coming soon?
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Mikey914 |
Jun 4 2012, 10:58 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
You got it, I'll change the title of the thread. I spent most of the weekend putting my new aluminum trim on the doors, and messing with the liners so I didn't get to these yet. I'll install and get some pics. in a few days
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914Bryan |
Jun 4 2012, 11:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 6-June 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,162 Region Association: Southern California |
I am interested!
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ape914 |
Jun 4 2012, 11:48 AM
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red locktite Group: Retired Members Posts: 240 Joined: 7-February 11 From: In front of a computer Member No.: 12,676 Region Association: None |
of course these are the cause of lower firewall rust thru in many a 914. Debries get caught behind the pad, making the situation even worse, water enters during rain or washing and runs down to the bottom of the pad. and the lower firewall can then rust. I have had some cars with the pad, most all had rust (some near terminal) from the pad/debries holding water. the early cars lacked this pad and none of my early cars had any rust there.
Yes these can make the car less noisey, or restore an ugly old pad, but the cost is you must be vigalent with making sure no water ever gets behind them. Perhaps one can shorten the pad's hieght, so there is an inch or so gap at the bottom to help allow water to run out. Also upon install ,make sure all the top clips hold the top edge firmly and securly to the firewall, this will help prevenmt rain/wash ater from entering. the pad can be a good thing, but be ware of the faults of these pads, keep the backside dry and you will be ok. |
Niklas |
Jun 4 2012, 12:23 PM
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Porsche 914 Sweden Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 20-June 09 From: Sweden - Skivarp Member No.: 10,488 Region Association: Scandinavia |
I want two sets.
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gothspeed |
Jun 4 2012, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
Cool (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)!!!! .......... I am interested ............ how thick is it and how much does it weigh? ..... and what is the attachment method?
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saigon71 |
Jun 5 2012, 06:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,006 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Count me in for one. Thanks Mark!
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scotty b |
Jun 5 2012, 07:55 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
If you read the descrition, these are made form a closed cell rubber that DOES NOT absorb water. The water absorbtion was the biggest issue with the O.E. pads. They got wet and had no way to quickly dry out.
Thanks for another great product Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) of course these are the cause of lower firewall rust thru in many a 914. Debries get caught behind the pad, making the situation even worse, water enters during rain or washing and runs down to the bottom of the pad. and the lower firewall can then rust. I have had some cars with the pad, most all had rust (some near terminal) from the pad/debries holding water. the early cars lacked this pad and none of my early cars had any rust there. Yes these can make the car less noisey, or restore an ugly old pad, but the cost is you must be vigalent with making sure no water ever gets behind them. Perhaps one can shorten the pad's hieght, so there is an inch or so gap at the bottom to help allow water to run out. Also upon install ,make sure all the top clips hold the top edge firmly and securly to the firewall, this will help prevenmt rain/wash ater from entering. the pad can be a good thing, but be ware of the faults of these pads, keep the backside dry and you will be ok. |
scrz914 |
Jun 5 2012, 10:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,960 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE The ones in production will have the same holes as the OEM for grounds. What does this mean? Ground connections, where are those? Will these have the holes for the plastic fasteners? BTW, $75 vs $200 elsewhere. This is a really good deal. |
Mikey914 |
Jun 6 2012, 03:45 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
QUOTE The ones in production will have the same holes as the OEM for grounds. What does this mean? Ground connections, where are those? Will these have the holes for the plastic fasteners? BTW, $75 vs $200 elsewhere. This is a really good deal. Funny, I got to look at it closer. I was referring to the holes in the pad in the corners. It's actually where the seat belt harware comes through. I'm basically copying the OEM one you see in the picture and will be playing around with this more in the next day or so. The material is not very heavy as it's actually made for aircraft firewall application. I had thought velcro tabs would be a good way to do this. It could be glued, but will be difficult to work with. I'll post pictures shortly. -Mark |
Mikey914 |
Jun 7 2012, 12:51 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Cool (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)!!!! .......... I am interested ............ how thick is it and how much does it weigh? ..... and what is the attachment method? The material is about 3/8" thick, weight is less than 2lbs. I spent about 2 hours this evening playing around with a technique to mount this. I originally thought I'd glue it, but my engine is in and I really didn't want to play with glue with it in. I got the bright idea of reinforcing the edges with speed tape and using velcro to attach it. I used about 3 ft total, and could have used more, but it did work well. Here's the pad Attached thumbnail(s) |
Mikey914 |
Jun 7 2012, 12:55 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The engine compartment before. I have Dynomat allready installed, but this won't hurt.
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Mikey914 |
Jun 7 2012, 12:55 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The engine compartment before. I have Dynomat allready installed, but this won't hurt.
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Mikey914 |
Jun 7 2012, 01:04 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Installed -
The sequence was pretty simplefit the mat in place and remove the back of the velcro. I started in the center at the bottom and worked my way to the sides. I then worked up the center and did the bottom lip of the slits. By doing so the top tucks over and will not encourage the capture of moisture, but will allow itto "vent". Overall I'm happy with the installation even if I was in a hurry to do it. At least I got some quality time with my car today. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Mikey914 |
Jun 7 2012, 01:05 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
A few more installed
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billh1963 |
Jun 7 2012, 04:56 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,403 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
I'm in for one
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plas76targa |
Jun 7 2012, 06:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Frederick, MD Member No.: 1,700 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i'd like one as well! count me in!
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ape914 |
Jun 7 2012, 10:23 PM
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red locktite Group: Retired Members Posts: 240 Joined: 7-February 11 From: In front of a computer Member No.: 12,676 Region Association: None |
Scotty: Never did I mention anything about water absorption in the pad. The concern I point out is the problem of water and or water holding debries behind the pad. It is very difficult for it to dry out when water and debries are trapped between the pad and the firewall. Any non -breathing pad will have this problem unless they can be sealed on top to prevent water engress, and/or opened to drain / be cleaned at bottom. A closed cell rubber is not a breathable material unless you perferate it. Take care to keep it dry behind the pad. If you read the descrition, these are made form a closed cell rubber that DOES NOT absorb water. The water absorbtion was the biggest issue with the O.E. pads. They got wet and had no way to quickly dry out. Thanks for another great product Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) of course these are the cause of lower firewall rust thru in many a 914. Debries get caught behind the pad, making the situation even worse, water enters during rain or washing and runs down to the bottom of the pad. and the lower firewall can then rust. I have had some cars with the pad, most all had rust (some near terminal) from the pad/debries holding water. the early cars lacked this pad and none of my early cars had any rust there. Yes these can make the car less noisey, or restore an ugly old pad, but the cost is you must be vigalent with making sure no water ever gets behind them. Perhaps one can shorten the pad's hieght, so there is an inch or so gap at the bottom to help allow water to run out. Also upon install ,make sure all the top clips hold the top edge firmly and securly to the firewall, this will help prevenmt rain/wash ater from entering. the pad can be a good thing, but be ware of the faults of these pads, keep the backside dry and you will be ok. |
jimsfolly |
Jun 7 2012, 10:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 15-June 08 From: Renton, WA Member No.: 9,174 Region Association: None |
I'm in for one also,
thanks Mark! |
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