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Headlight switch ooginess |
mrholland2 |
Sep 23 2012, 06:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
YAY: I can use headlights without blowing fuses. .. and the horn also now goes "Merrrrp merrrrp" (kind of like a European See-And-Say)
HOWEVER, When the car is OFF the key is OFF and I (accidentally) engage the RIGHT turn signal, the RIGHT park and tail lights come on. . and (I think) the same with the LEFT. Also, the headlights would not work with the wires hooked to the proper locations (according to a thread on here). I'm wondering if my switch is "ker-flooey" and needs replacement? Or do I have the only 914 that was worked over by Lucas Electrical? Sean |
TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 23 2012, 06:46 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,309 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
The turn signals are susposed to work like that with the key off
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Pat Garvey |
Sep 23 2012, 06:52 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
This is one of the Euro things that carried over.
In Europe furing that period the streets were narrow (stilll are). By leaving the L or R signals on when you left the car it meant that you would return shortly, and marked the car from being hit. Kust don't leave it on overnight. |
jim_hoyland |
Sep 24 2012, 09:13 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,418 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
YAY: I can use headlights without blowing fuses. .. and the horn also now goes "Merrrrp merrrrp" (kind of like a European See-And-Say) HOWEVER, When the car is OFF the key is OFF and I (accidentally) engage the RIGHT turn signal, the RIGHT park and tail lights come on. . and (I think) the same with the LEFT. Also, the headlights would not work with the wires hooked to the proper locations (according to a thread on here). I'm wondering if my switch is "ker-flooey" and needs replacement? Or do I have the only 914 that was worked over by Lucas Electrical? Sean I'm not sure which thread you are refering to, but I found the wiring diagram was in error on two spades. I made up a revised wiring diagram for the late switch |
jim_hoyland |
Sep 24 2012, 09:21 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,418 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Try this for 11 pin:
30 Smaller Red From fuse #10 which is linked to #11 and #12 green w/blk trace 30B Headlight Motors Retract grey w/blk trace 58L Left Parking lights grey w/red trace 56R Rt Parking Lights grey w/yellow trace K License / Luggage lights white w/green trace 57 Park light indicator light 15 Thicker Red From "X" terminal on Ignition switch grey 56K Headlight Motor Switch Extend red w/white trace 56 Headlight motors black w/blue trace 56 To Fog light switch Attached image(s) |
mrholland2 |
Sep 24 2012, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
I have the 11 pin switch, but my car is a '73. . will things be different?
Thanks for your help! Sean Try this for 11 pin: 30 Smaller Red From fuse #10 which is linked to #11 and #12 green w/blk trace 30B Headlight Motors Retract grey w/blk trace 58L Left Parking lights grey w/red trace 56R Rt Parking Lights grey w/yellow trace K License / Luggage lights white w/green trace 57 Park light indicator light 15 Thicker Red From "X" terminal on Ignition switch grey 56K Headlight Motor Switch Extend red w/white trace 56 Headlight motors black w/blue trace 56 To Fog light switch |
jim_hoyland |
Sep 24 2012, 12:20 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,418 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same.
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mrholland2 |
Sep 24 2012, 02:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
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bandjoey |
Sep 24 2012, 03:22 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,930 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The Bird has a tech article on repairing HL switches with pics of the different switches.
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jim_hoyland |
Sep 24 2012, 04:15 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,418 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same. The photo vanished from your post!!!! Reposted..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I had a switch with all the wires still attached and went through all the circuits with a continuity tester. |
mrholland2 |
Sep 24 2012, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
Does that wiring work on a 1973 car? I'm a bit confused about the "early" and "Late" thing
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same. The photo vanished from your post!!!! Reposted..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I had a switch with all the wires still attached and went through all the circuits with a continuity tester. |
SirAndy |
Sep 24 2012, 06:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
The turn signals are susposed to work like that with the key off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It's a parking light option. All European cars have it. Or at least used to, not sure about brand new cars, might have changed by now. It's a handy feature, why would you want to remove it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
76-914 |
Sep 24 2012, 06:51 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,611 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Hah, I remember posting the same concern about the turn signal. Then I went on to embarrass myself further by posting concerns over the locking differences between the R & L doors. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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jim_hoyland |
Sep 24 2012, 07:57 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,418 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Count the connectors, if it's 11, yes; if 10, no. They are pretty similar IIRC
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