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Need New Cooling Fan, Old Engine Cooling Fan has fins missing... |
Str1974 |
Aug 29 2019, 10:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 23-January 19 From: Dallas Member No.: 22,820 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm making process with my new 914 (almost a year old now). Replaced many things on it, but noticed that the engine cooling fan has several fins missing or broken off. I'm looking to replace the part (#021119031). I'm not finding any new out there, says discontinued etc. Some used ones on ebay, Auto Atlanta sells used ones for $179, but I'm a little skeptical buying used unseen. Could have hairline cracks etc. Would rather get a new one for piece of mind. Seems to me the cooling fan is pretty much one of the main parts that one needs to be in almost pristine shape. Maybe I'm wrong, but the part seems to be the same for Bus engines. Are there aftermarket tuners that make a good reproduction worth buying or should a cheap used one on ebay suffice? Any thoughts and advice?
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ConeDodger |
Aug 29 2019, 11:30 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,758 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I’ve got one taken apart in a box. I was going to rebuild it but when I turned around, someone had stuck a Carrera motor in the damned thing. PM me if you can’t find something close.
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Chi-town |
Aug 30 2019, 12:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 851 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
I have a used one with no broken blades
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 30 2019, 06:54 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,469 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I have a used one with no broken blades No issues with used fans. These fan blades are not stressed parts and are not known for stress cracking leading to missing blades. Most likely explanation is that someone stuck a screwdriver though the timing plug hole and tried to jamb the crank and/or turn the crank using the fan blades. That will lead to them breaking. FYI - you'll likely find a better fan, at a better price by posting a wanted to buy ad on the parts forum. |
ClayPerrine |
Aug 30 2019, 07:07 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,820 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
PM me. I have a bunch of spare fans. You are welcome to one, just come get it. I will be available all weekend.
I am in Hurst, just west of DFW airport. Clay |
Tbrown4x4 |
Aug 30 2019, 07:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 13-May 14 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 17,338 Region Association: None |
Don't forget to verify the timing marks on your replacement fan. You don't want to find out they're wrong after it's all put together.
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 30 2019, 07:25 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,469 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
PM me. I have a bunch of spare fans. You are welcome to one, just come get it. I will be available all weekend. I am in Hurst, just west of DFW airport. Clay Ha! Greatest forum in the world. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Can't beat free and you get to meet a 914 expert in the process! |
yellowporky |
Aug 30 2019, 07:59 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 427 Joined: 18-October 09 From: Martinez, Ca. Member No.: 10,948 Region Association: Northern California |
I bought a restored one from Bruce Stone on here
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Aug 30 2019, 08:20 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,055 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
you can get away with three blades in a row broken. Many racers break off even numbers of blades to make the fan less a drag on the engine believe it or not!!!
Finding cooling fans with no broken blades is always the problem, as owners use a screwdriver to turn the engine from the fan breaking the blades. We have not seen any cracks on the fan hubs though. Remember although the fans are all the same, the timing markings are different for 1.7, 2.0 which have zero and 27 markings, and 1.8 which only has 7 btdc marking I'm making process with my new 914 (almost a year old now). Replaced many things on it, but noticed that the engine cooling fan has several fins missing or broken off. I'm looking to replace the part (#021119031). I'm not finding any new out there, says discontinued etc. Some used ones on ebay, Auto Atlanta sells used ones for $179, but I'm a little skeptical buying used unseen. Could have hairline cracks etc. Would rather get a new one for piece of mind. Seems to me the cooling fan is pretty much one of the main parts that one needs to be in almost pristine shape. Maybe I'm wrong, but the part seems to be the same for Bus engines. Are there aftermarket tuners that make a good reproduction worth buying or should a cheap used one on ebay suffice? Any thoughts and advice? |
Superhawk996 |
Aug 30 2019, 09:13 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,469 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
you can get away with three blades in a row broken. Many racers break off even numbers of blades to make the fan less a drag on the engine believe it or not!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I guess if you're going to run an external oil cooler anyway but has anyone done the HP calculation between pumping looses (air cooling fan improvement vs. up-sized oil pump and/or pumping at higher head pressures degradation?). I'm not going to argue with what successful racers do but I certainly wouldn't recommend that for the street. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
ConeDodger |
Aug 30 2019, 09:33 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,758 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
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Str1974 |
Aug 30 2019, 12:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 23-January 19 From: Dallas Member No.: 22,820 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Str1974 |
Aug 30 2019, 12:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 23-January 19 From: Dallas Member No.: 22,820 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Str1974 |
Aug 30 2019, 12:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 23-January 19 From: Dallas Member No.: 22,820 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have a used one with no broken blades No issues with used fans. These fan blades are not stressed parts and are not known for stress cracking leading to missing blades. Most likely explanation is that someone stuck a screwdriver though the timing plug hole and tried to jamb the crank and/or turn the crank using the fan blades. That will lead to them breaking. FYI - you'll likely find a better fan, at a better price by posting a wanted to buy ad on the parts forum. Great, thanks. |
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