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rdcarl |
Mar 21 2021, 01:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 1-February 21 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 25,157 Region Association: South East States |
Hi, quick exhaust question, I have a 1973 1.7 with an aftermarket exhaust that is rusted and needs to be replaced. I saw the Monza dual exhaust tip muffler on Auto Atlanta and called them to order one, (along with the shorter valance that they sell that doesn't conflict with the tips), but they said the manufacturer no longer make this muffler. My question is if anyone knows of a dual exhaust that will fit a 1.7 / or does anyone have a Monza dual exhaust they would be willing to sell. Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards, Richard |
mepstein |
Mar 21 2021, 01:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
@rdcarl
I sell these made in usa stainless steel mufflers. $650 for muffler, hardware, gaskets and shipping. The old Monza's were heavy, loud, sucked power and rusted out in a couple years. Email - Mark@MarkEpstein.net to purchase. Attached image(s) |
rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2021, 01:33 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Or, try Triadwest. In the member vendor subforum. Dave can make you a version that does not require altering the rear valence. Best to call the number provided and speak with Dave directly or leave a message. It might be a while before you get a reply to an email.
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CHIZ 914 |
Mar 21 2021, 04:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 14-May 18 From: Mountlake Terrace, Wa Member No.: 22,118 Region Association: None |
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Cairo94507 |
Mar 21 2021, 05:58 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,022 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Monza 4 tip exhaust.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
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SKL1 |
Mar 21 2021, 10:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,625 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My dad got his 914 6 months after I got mine in early '71. We put a Monza exhaust on it because at the time we thought it looked good and sounded good. Rusted out in less than 2 years...
Have a Triad (stealth version) on my '73 2.0 with dual exhaust that doesn't need any mod to the valance. Recommend that as he can make 1.7 or 2.0 versions. |
Shivers |
Mar 22 2021, 08:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
I like the look.
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VaccaRabite |
Mar 22 2021, 09:42 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Monza was an acceptable exhaust in the 70/80s. These days they are not good systems - at least not good at anything but being louder the stock and having multiple tips.
Get the ones Mark sells or a Triad or buy one of Chris's systems if you want dual output. Zach |
Shivers |
Mar 23 2021, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Im sure the new exhaust systems work great. The Anza was a tuned exhaust, in 1982 that was not a concern on the 914 from most of the suppliers. It replaced my stock 10 year old exhaust. Compared to stock, it worked great. But even better it no longer sounded like a vw bug. Anza / Monza made a system that flowed, with a more european sound. As they made exhaust systems for ferrari and the rest, it had that sound. But oh my word was the Anza loud. It would set off car alarms in parking structures. This one is an Anza / monza hybrid. I was able to get the tips farther up and back in using a 75/ 76 Monza mufflers. And they are quieter.
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rjames |
Mar 23 2021, 10:05 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 4,111 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I had a late model Anza on my '75 for a year or so before I backdated the exhaust. Shivers isn't kidding about setting off car alarms. Happened all the time and I quickly grew tired of it. They just fit under the stock rear valance, but the exit pipes touch the valence. Maybe with a custom valence it would look better.
They also weigh a ton which is reason enough not to use one. |
Shivers |
Mar 23 2021, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
The Anza did weigh a ton. Thick steel mufflers then wrapped with aluminum. These monza mufflers are a lot lighter. Ended up not too bad on the weight end. It had been a long time since I heard the tappets on this engine.
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Shivers |
Mar 23 2021, 10:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
I had a late model Anza on my '75 for a year or so before I backdated the exhaust. Shivers isn't kidding about setting off car alarms. Happened all the time and I quickly grew tired of it. They just fit under the stock rear valance, but the exit pipes touch the valence. Maybe with a custom valence it would look better. They also weigh a ton which is reason enough not to use one. I'm working on the valance. Attached image(s) |
rhodyguy |
Mar 24 2021, 09:17 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Ruins a good valance. Replacement muffler systems are easy enough to come by. Nice, unmolested valances? Not so much. More often than not, the bottoms of the tips are ground down from going up steep inclines and they drag on the pavement/concrete.
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Shivers |
Mar 24 2021, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Ruins a good valance. Replacement muffler systems are easy enough to come by. Nice, unmolested valances? Not so much. More often than not, the bottoms of the tips are ground down from going up steep inclines and they drag on the pavement/concrete. Yes I learned that from the anza, and it would hit the bottom of the valance. I bought this one new at porsche in 82' I 've had to weld the corners a couple times. That is why this one sits up much higher and farther back in. I also cut a front oil cooler opening into the stock sheet metal. Just in case you're not horrified enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Attached image(s) |
Shivers |
Mar 24 2021, 12:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
Got the size from here
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