Rear Valance question, deep 914/6 snow plow version vs shallow 914/4 version |
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Rear Valance question, deep 914/6 snow plow version vs shallow 914/4 version |
DRPHIL914 |
Apr 22 2021, 06:24 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
i am getting a GT muffler from Ben and he is doing a GT3 twin center tip for me, so i want a non cutout valance. I am thinking about getting a 914/6 deep(snow plow) version i was wondering if anyone else either with a 4 or 6 has done a custom center out and done this before, making their own custom valance for a tip like this. any pictures of how the deeper valance looks would be cool too. ' Phil |
silverg |
Apr 22 2021, 06:43 AM
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914s since March 1970 Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Winchester, VA Member No.: 6,179 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Never liked the original rear valance on my 6 - felt like it held too much heat.
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Cairo94507 |
Apr 22 2021, 07:09 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,022 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
@DRPHIL914 - I think you will love the look and sound of the GT muffler on your car. As pretty as Ben's mufflers are, I would use a shorty valance modified to remove the outlet on the left and then add the outlets for the 2 pipes. I did that on my 2nd Six, homemade GT muffler because this was almost 30 years ago, and it looked sweet with the bottom of the muffler exposed. The deep valances would cover that beautiful muffler up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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914werke |
Apr 22 2021, 09:42 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,543 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
@DRPHIL914 I would use a shorty valance modified to remove the outlet on the left and then add the outlets for the 2 pipes. I did that on my 2nd Six, homemade GT muffler because this was almost 30 years ago, and it looked sweet with the bottom of the muffler exposed. Was working on this last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
DRPHIL914 |
Apr 22 2021, 09:56 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
Never liked the original rear valance on my 6 - felt like it held too much heat. @DRPHIL914 - I think you will love the look and sound of the GT muffler on your car. As pretty as Ben's mufflers are, I would use a shorty valance modified to remove the outlet on the left and then add the outlets for the 2 pipes. I did that on my 2nd Six, homemade GT muffler because this was almost 30 years ago, and it looked sweet with the bottom of the muffler exposed. The deep valances would cover that beautiful muffler up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) @DRPHIL914 I would use a shorty valance modified to remove the outlet on the left and then add the outlets for the 2 pipes. I did that on my 2nd Six, homemade GT muffler because this was almost 30 years ago, and it looked sweet with the bottom of the muffler exposed. Was working on this last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) that is great input thanks guys! I had my current one modified like that for the outside outlet dual out Triad and fits perfect, is all metal, and you can see the bottom of the muffler like you are saying so that may be the way to go with this too. I didnt think about the heat issue, i do think the deeper one would look cool but if you had an ugly muffler with cool tips, probably the way to go. i am leaning toward the shorter stock valance and modify. Maybe i can get Ben to do this, he is an excellent metal worker - Hey Ben!!!! |
DRPHIL914 |
Apr 22 2021, 09:57 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
@DRPHIL914 I would use a shorty valance modified to remove the outlet on the left and then add the outlets for the 2 pipes. I did that on my 2nd Six, homemade GT muffler because this was almost 30 years ago, and it looked sweet with the bottom of the muffler exposed. Was working on this last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) nice , is that going on your car? this is the idea, my muffler from Ben will have the tips closer together like GT3 |
914werke |
Apr 22 2021, 10:37 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,543 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
No this is for a customers car. Still some (metal/finish) work to do.
This is to match one of Ben's mufflers as well. |
burton73 |
Apr 22 2021, 11:28 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,655 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
There is a lot of work to fit the deep Valance. Not sure where Eric bought this one but it was cut and refitted to make it right. They all seem to need work to fit right. Note that we changed the rear bumper out to a fresh 70 bumper that Oscar the man fixed me up with. A new bumper top as well. I just do not have a good picture of it.
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DRPHIL914 |
Apr 22 2021, 11:37 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
There is a lot of work to fit the deep Valance. Not sure where Eric bought this one but it was cut and refitted to make it right. They all seem to need work to fit right. Note that we changed the rear bumper out to a fresh 70 bumper that Oscar the man fixed me up with. A new bumper top as well. I just do not have a good picture of it. Bob B nice,that looks great! |
gandalf_025 |
Apr 22 2021, 12:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,471 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
Here is the WORST of both worlds..
A factory 6 rear valance cut down to look like later cars. This was done around 1975, the same time the headlight surrounds were painted black... |
echocanyons |
Apr 22 2021, 01:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,096 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
There’s no plow like a snow plow.
It cleans the lines up but my only complaint is that it hides things too much. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Elvira |
Apr 22 2021, 02:00 PM
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Mistress of the Dark Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: 22-March 19 From: Vegas Baby Member No.: 22,984 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
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mepstein |
Apr 22 2021, 02:07 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No valance. Show off what you got. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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CHIZ 914 |
Apr 22 2021, 02:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 14-May 18 From: Mountlake Terrace, Wa Member No.: 22,118 Region Association: None |
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gereed75 |
Apr 22 2021, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
here is the center out rear valence I made from a fiberglass snowplow six valence. I built an exhaust with a dual center outlet very much like a GT3 look.
The ventilation grill is made from an engine decklid mesh grill. I made a tool to "joggle" the mesh so that it sits flush with the contour of the valence. Cant find a picture of it mounted on the car. I have no data to compare the ventilated valence with a none ventilated one, but heating does not seem to be an issue. I know some like the naked no valence look, I think the car looks totally unfinished without some type of rear valence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Attached image(s) |
DRPHIL914 |
Apr 22 2021, 07:56 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
here is the center out rear valence I made from a fiberglass snowplow six valence. I built an exhaust with a dual center outlet very much like a GT3 look. The ventilation grill is made from an engine decklid mesh grill. I made a tool to "joggle" the mesh so that it sits flush with the contour of the valence. Cant find a picture of it mounted on the car. I have no data to compare the ventilated valence with a none ventilated one, but heating does not seem to be an issue. I know some like the naked no valence look, I think the car looks totally unfinished without some type of rear valence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) @gereed75 i agree that the lines are better and it seems unfinished without, but at same time you hat to hide it too. that vented version seems best of both worlds. how did you bond the metal mesh to the fiberglass valance? is it on your car now? |
gereed75 |
Apr 22 2021, 08:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
bonded the mesh in with epoxy.
it is on the car. Dont think I have a decent picture. Ill get one tomorrow if interested. I will be real curious to see how you like Ben's GT3 dual out let exhaust. I played with the muffler I built through a variety of internal baffling configurations in an attempt to eliminate the drone. Not successful, but I just live with it now because I love the sound level and look. If ben has been able to build a twin outlet without drone I would definitely buy one. Did I mention I love the look? Just checked your build thread and realize that your car is a four, so the drone problem wont be an issue for you. Your car is gorgeous and I think you will like the GT3 look too!! |
Mark Henry |
Apr 22 2021, 08:22 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
here is the center out rear valence I made from a fiberglass snowplow six valence. I built an exhaust with a dual center outlet very much like a GT3 look. The ventilation grill is made from an engine decklid mesh grill. I made a tool to "joggle" the mesh so that it sits flush with the contour of the valence. Cant find a picture of it mounted on the car. I have no data to compare the ventilated valence with a none ventilated one, but heating does not seem to be an issue. I know some like the naked no valence look, I think the car looks totally unfinished without some type of rear valence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Most excellent dude! I have a crappy fiberglass /6 valance, lots of epoxy and I need a new muffler soon. Installed pics please! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
DRPHIL914 |
Apr 22 2021, 08:31 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
bonded the mesh in with epoxy. it is on the car. Dont think I have a decent picture. Ill get one tomorrow if interested. I will be real curious to see how you like Ben's GT3 dual out let exhaust. I played with the muffler I built through a variety of internal baffling configurations in an attempt to eliminate the drone. Not successful, but I just live with it now because I love the sound level and look. If ben has been able to build a twin outlet without drone I would definitely buy one. Did I mention I love the look? Just checked your build thread and realize that your car is a four, so the drone problem wont be an issue for you. Your car is gorgeous and I think you will like the GT3 look too!! thanks for all the input and compliments, i left it alone for a while but realized there were things that could be better, and bothered me, so everyonce and a while i work on a few more little things, it i have wanted to try one of Ben’s mufflers. i hope you are right i don’t want a bad drone. the Triad didn’t have drone, but was just louder at highway speed and RPM that could wear on you on a long trip. i think this will be the best of both worlds... it certainly is a work in progress. Yes i would love to see a picture of it on the car if you have time, . |
trick-e |
Apr 23 2021, 05:50 AM
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Still Learning Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 7-July 12 From: Traverse City, MI USA Member No.: 14,644 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Gereed75 I too am curious for a pic of it installed. I’d been thinking about a similar design for years, but would have merely cut horizontal slits into the valance. Yours looks much better. I also have an ivory so am eager. Cheers!
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