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need tool for removing a f**d up screw |
SirAndy |
Aug 12 2005, 09:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
so, someone other than myself, broke the tip off a allen wrench in one of the screws on my steering wheel (momo) ...
now, i'm tool challenged (no garage), but i have used a tool to remove screws like that before, just can't remember what it is called. it's kinda like a reverse thread drill thing ... anyone know what i'm talking about? where would i get one and what's it called ??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Andy |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 12 2005, 10:03 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
EASYOUT
sears has em.....so does the home depot ot lowes (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
SLITS |
Aug 12 2005, 10:04 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
screw extractor................drill hole, insert and twist...it's threaded left hand so it "bites" on turning.
Vise grips on the head might work too! A "stud extractor" might be useable also! |
Joe Bob |
Aug 12 2005, 10:09 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
The tip of allen wrench snapped off and is in the hole? Or the top of the allen headed screw snapped off?
The allen wrenches are hardened steel.....that gonna be a bitch to get out. The screws aren't so bad.... |
SirAndy |
Aug 12 2005, 10:26 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
ayupp, tip of the wrench is in the hole ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Andy |
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Demick |
Aug 12 2005, 10:32 PM
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Ernie made me do it! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,312 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 257 |
What I usually do is take a dremel with a cut-off wheel and cut a slot in the head of the screw. Then I use a flat bladed screwdriver to get it out.
Demick |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 12 2005, 10:37 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
enuff to get vice grips on it? |
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SirAndy |
Aug 12 2005, 10:39 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
nope, nice and flat .... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) |
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 12 2005, 10:40 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
dremel 1st... then try the drill and EZ out..... if all else fails, snap on has a left handed drillbit similar to an easyout.... or...tack on a new alan key and turn it out? |
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SpecialK |
Aug 12 2005, 10:44 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Try tapping on the screw a bit to loosen the tip in the fastener bore, then use a strong magnet to extract it. Hopefully it'll come out, but it not, only thing you could drill it out with is a carbide tipped bit.
Is the head of the allen bolt exposed? Or in a counterbore? |
Brian Mifsud |
Aug 12 2005, 10:53 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
If all else fails, heat it (if you can).
My flywheel bolts had been ground down 2 engines ago by a previous owner to clear the clutch. (I guess they were being ultra frugal and had the flywheel machined down to a (thousandth-inch (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) ) of its life.. There wasn't enough hex head for a socket to grab. I used a body grinder to grind the heads off, thinking I'd just pull the flywheel off and then use visegrips on the shafts. In the act of grinding, I unintentionally heated them up enough that they started to spin out... My dad made a career out of removing broken bolts and screws (rebuilt steel power plant pumps which were immersed in sea water). While he was a machinist, the first tool they all grabbed for whenever it was time to take anything apart was a torch. good luck, and don't work on it while you are tired.. a goodnights sleep, and sometimes these things become child's play. brian |
Mueller |
Aug 13 2005, 12:50 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
swing on by on Sunday if you still need help...I think it'll be cooler (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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MarkV |
Aug 13 2005, 01:18 AM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
Why don't you take all of the other screws out first and then rotate the steering wheel downward to unscrew the culprit. If it is like my wheel there is no flange to center the wheel to the hub. Once you break it loose you can unscrew it with your fingers. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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neo914-6 |
Aug 13 2005, 01:33 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
The MOMO's adapters have lip that fit into the wheel so you can't rotate them outside the center of the wheel. I would work it with a small chisel and lubrication as it's twisted in. You can find another allen screw so tap away at the head. If that doesn't work, you can remove the wheel and adapter and drill the tool head out on a drill press and then use an easyout tool for the screw. |
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scotty914 |
Aug 13 2005, 02:09 AM
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suby torque rules Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 20-July 03 From: maryland, the land of 25 year Member No.: 924 |
get a real hard center punch and try to shatter whats left of the allen wrench
another option would be to remove the other screws and just grab the wheel on the other side of the one that left and snap off the head, then try vice grips or drilling whats left |
redshift |
Aug 13 2005, 03:05 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
or epoxy on a small flat rod end, pull the broken part out, and use the bolt again...
m |
PatW |
Aug 13 2005, 03:24 AM
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Wassup? Group: Benefactors Posts: 565 Joined: 19-February 03 From: Rocklin, CA Member No.: 317 Region Association: Northern California |
There is this acid at work called "tap out" that will, get a tap out of whatever its stuck in. Might be a little extreme though.
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redshift |
Aug 13 2005, 03:27 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Tap-out... sounds like a wrestling thing?
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) M |
rhodyguy |
Aug 13 2005, 05:37 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
don't look at it. or, try some super glue on a slightly smaller allen wrench and see if it will stick so you can pull it out.
k |
qa1142 |
Aug 13 2005, 06:48 AM
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Whiplash Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: 1-June 04 From: Lake Zurich, Illinois Member No.: 2,140 |
I agree, this is first try. works very well |
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