Oil Line Routing - question routing under rockers?, how do i avoid this? |
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Oil Line Routing - question routing under rockers?, how do i avoid this? |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 18 2005, 03:59 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
if i went under the rockers...how do i get it into this passage?
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1124402022.jpg) go in through the inner fender?? like this? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1124401996.jpg) and through that void....and into the trunk like this? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1124402059.jpg) keep in mid...up the passenger side via -10 lines from a mocal sandwich adapter... have heat currently....so would like to run up under the rocker panels.... how would one cover up the lines in the cockpit by the passengers feet? as seen here??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1124402504.jpg) |
Jeroen |
Aug 18 2005, 04:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
why don't you route the lines farther forward on the outside?
like on the 911, where the line just follows the wheelarch inside the fender Then you can go into the trunk in front of the front wheels... (just an idea) |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 18 2005, 04:09 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
was just thinking of doing just that. use some "padded hose clamps" and go in through there. id have to buy some 45 degree fittings i think to make that tight bend into that void though.... (more money (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) ) AND... the lines could encounter road debrit and rocks because they are exposed in the fenderwell. This post has been edited by Aaron Cox: Aug 18 2005, 04:12 PM |
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brant |
Aug 18 2005, 04:24 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Aaron,
yeah.. what Jeroen said. no pictures sorry.. but on my old car we ran the lines under the rocker... into the front fender... up the inner fender until they cut through near the gas tank cap... then under the tank and through the front firewall.. then into the cooler. we fabricated a plastic inner fender liner that protects the lines from stones. Kinda like those fender liners that they sold for a while. Except ours is only on the back part of that one fender. We did it originally to avoid running oil lines in the cockpit at all. We were originally scarred that hot oil could burn the driver in an accident. brant |
McMark |
Aug 18 2005, 07:49 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I would go in somewhere here, that'll avoid cutting into the front edge of the long. I don't like the idea of cutting a rather large hole in both sides of the main support member for your car. Another idea, similar to what's mentioned before would be to route it up to the top of the fender, over the wheel arch, back down and go in under the headlight bucket. This way you just have oil lines "magically" appearing from under your headlights. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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SirAndy |
Aug 18 2005, 07:58 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
you mean like those 3 BIG gaping oval holes the factory cut into the inside part of the longs and plugged them with a piece of tar-paper? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Andy |
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flesburg |
Aug 18 2005, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 506 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Pontiac, IL Member No.: 3,162 |
Because of concern over the possibility of a broken oil line in an accident or from something hitting it outside the tub or in a wheel well, I ran my oil lines through the firewall, at the detents, and then along the center tunnel, into the area below the gas tank and then into the front trunk. I insulated the lines inside the cockpit, and they were covered with carpet for several years, before we lightened the interior last winter. They were not too hot.
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Evill Ed |
Aug 18 2005, 09:13 PM
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I just ran a set on 914-6 that I am building, check the pics out at http://community.webshots.com/album/322047086DfpRBF
Ed |
McMark |
Aug 18 2005, 09:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yeah, the ones that the factory stamped a reinforcement around. |
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John2kx |
Aug 19 2005, 08:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066 |
These are a/c lines but same method could be used if your wanting to follow rockers and through fenders.
John Attached image(s) |
Jeroen |
Aug 19 2005, 08:35 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
nice job Ed!
how do you like those lines? |
jonwatts |
Aug 19 2005, 09:28 AM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
John, what color is that? Black? Chrome?
I think it's interesting that nobody is mentioning running the oil lines under the car in the manner that Renegade says is "just fine" for coolant lines. |
914werke |
Aug 19 2005, 09:29 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,542 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
John thats a wierd Pic (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) it took me a few to figure out I was focusing on the reflection on the door panel (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I was also going to chime in that this is the same as the most of the AC intallations Ive ever seen, the only caveot is that you have to penetrate the door jam bulkhead on the pass side as its not relief'ed like the Drvs side for the Charcoal canister lines. Do it right or Rust City ....Ask me how I know. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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ClayPerrine |
Aug 19 2005, 09:51 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,820 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
That's a suggestion. On the left side of the 73 and earlier cars there were the charcoal canister lines. Just follow the routing for them. They terminate in the front trunk next to the gas tank. Then run them forward along the wheel arch until them reach your cooler.
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 19 2005, 09:58 AM
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I have to go up the passenger side. tapping from a mocal sandwhich plate... and i WONT have enuff line to go up the left side.... McMarks idea is the best thus far....no cockpit portrusion, and hidden into the void.... AA |
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SLITS |
Aug 19 2005, 10:02 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Geeeezzzz...budding civil/mechanical/?? engineers give me gas. This ain't brain surgery.... otta the wheel house thru the rockers into the wheel house to the cooler..minimal elevation changes to avoid trapped air in the system. Fabricate a plate of aluminum for exposed lines an pop rivit to the body.
Oh...and acquire a chassis punch for holes to make them nice and clean. |
BMartin914 |
Aug 19 2005, 10:44 AM
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And then wrap the oil lines under the suspension arm?
I am preparing to do this either this weekend or the next. Original plan was to run the lines in the rocker through the heater tube ala Brad and SirAndy, but AAron's thread got me thinking about running the lines outside to retain my heat on the pass side. I am concerned about the lines around the suspension arm - looking for a tidier method (if one exists) of getting the lines out of the rocker in the rear. Seems too vulnerable otherwise. I'd be much more concerned with loose lines there than exposed lines in the pass footwell. |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 19 2005, 10:56 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
suspension arm in the rear? there is lots of roomn to go in ABOVE the long inside the fenderwell... you can go up into the fender basically at the door jamb.... |
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wilchek |
Aug 19 2005, 11:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 506 Joined: 8-June 04 From: Eastern Pennsylvania Member No.: 2,177 |
check this out, how the 914-6gt ran the lines
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/factory_origin...rts_brass_lines |
RON S. |
Aug 19 2005, 11:11 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
I wish I knew,how to combine pics in a single block,but heres how I tackled my problem
1st pic is the hose routing. Less any covering. My lines are -16 running both ways. Attached image(s) |
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