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Being REALLY stupid!, oil filter removal |
jd66921 |
Oct 2 2006, 09:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
Okay, here's the stupid one - changing the oil for the first time and trying to
remove the oil filter. It rotated about 1 turn, and then went "thunk". No more rotate! Is there a trick, a catch, a protruding thing it catches on? The sides look clear, andI can't find anything on the top either. I don't want to force anything. It feels like it is catching toward the front of the engine, but trying to bend it down there doesn't seem to work either. Nothing goes easily on this car, huh? Help!! 1.8 L-Jet, if it matters. Thanks, Jeff |
ptravnic |
Oct 2 2006, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 747 Region Association: None |
What happens when you try to go back the other way? Will it tighten back up? I've never heard of stripping the threads but I guess it's possible...
-pt |
SGB |
Oct 2 2006, 09:33 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
It turns freely by hand until it catches??
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1970 Neun vierzehn |
Oct 2 2006, 09:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Jeff,
What are you using to loosen the filter? The wrench/tool designed for it, a "universal" filter wrench, or your hands? |
Flat VW |
Oct 2 2006, 09:43 AM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
I've never heard of stripping the threads but I guess it's possible... -pt It has been done before. John (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) |
jd66921 |
Oct 2 2006, 09:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
Jeff, What are you using to loosen the filter? The wrench/tool designed for it, a "universal" filter wrench, or your hands? It will tighten up again, no clicks or anything. I had to loosen it with a web wrench, it was tight! Now I am just using my hands. I makes a thunk sound so it seems to be hitting something, but I can't find anything for it to hit. It seems to be stuck pretty solidly in that direction. Is there anything close that it could catch on? Thanks for the ideas! Jeff |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Oct 2 2006, 09:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Jeff,
How many complete turns does the filter make from the time its seated at the engine 'till it makes your "thunk" sound. I can't imagine the filter cartridge is hitting anything. |
SGB |
Oct 2 2006, 09:57 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
Even if it was hitting something it should slide on by...
I've never had this happen. I believe I would take it somewhere (not a quicky oil change but a real and qualified garage) and see if the bottom of the filter could be cut off to see if there is a way to attack it from the inside. |
bd1308 |
Oct 2 2006, 10:06 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
LOL I remember shaggy's little mishap with the oil filter console.
What I would do is find a replacement console, then take a screwdriver and stab the oil filter through the side and use your foot to spin the filter off. Chances are the threads are already gone, so any attempt to recitfy the problem is just time wasted. b |
jd66921 |
Oct 2 2006, 10:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
Even if it was hitting something it should slide on by... I've never had this happen. I believe I would take it somewhere (not a quicky oil change but a real and qualified garage) and see if the bottom of the filter could be cut off to see if there is a way to attack it from the inside. It makes about one complete turn. Cutting it was my thought too. But I will probably do it myself. Just seems so messy though!!! May take a few (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) too. Never have had this happen to me before. I usually just drop the filter at the last second!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Any othe ideas? I appreciate it!! Jeff |
Chris Pincetich |
Oct 2 2006, 10:11 AM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Wierd...my first oil change I spent 15 minutes taking some of the heating ducting off so I could really see up in there and get a good angle on loosening the filter (I don't have a good strap wrench). That might be a good move for you to get a better view of what is wrong. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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jd66921 |
Oct 2 2006, 10:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
Wierd...my first oil change I spent 15 minutes taking some of the heating ducting off so I could really see up in there and get a good angle on loosening the filter (I don't have a good strap wrench). That might be a good move for you to get a better view of what is wrong. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) The area is wide open. I don't have any heater flappers or hoses in the way. I'm glad I decided to NOT do this before RRC!! It's the story of my life - f it all up! |
Toast |
Oct 2 2006, 10:23 AM
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Not bad for carrying sway bars. Group: Members Posts: 3,380 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 1,580 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Just kidding Jeff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I have no technical knowledge to give. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
TROJANMAN |
Oct 2 2006, 10:34 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,275 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
Jeff,
Don't listen to Toast, she drains here oil just by driving her car down the street (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) or by leaving it in a hotel parking lot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Here is the style of tool I use. works pretty easy, and gets it out a little straighter than a strap (available at WALMART) Perhaps are you hitting the engine bar when you turn? |
Flat VW |
Oct 2 2006, 10:36 AM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Jeff,
When Shaggy (Jim) gets home from school today I'm sure he will have some experience to share with you on this subject. John (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
bd1308 |
Oct 2 2006, 10:38 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
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Mark Henry |
Oct 2 2006, 10:50 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
There's always the old screwdriver trick.
Then you get to wipe up the spilled oil with your hair. |
jhadler |
Oct 2 2006, 11:15 AM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Does your car have an auxiliary oil cooler?? If so, it might be the sandwich plate adapter that loosened up and is spinning with the filter...
Just a WAG, but a "thunk" doesn't make me think stripped threads... -Josh2 |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 2 2006, 03:14 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
stab it wif a screwdriver and turn.....
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JPB |
Oct 2 2006, 03:51 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
AAAhhhh, righty tighty lefty loosy, LUCIE!!!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Splane sontin to me Lucie was BFH? Is Big Foragin Hammer Ricky.. |
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