I think #2 ate itself...., Who wants to guess my compression numbers... |
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I think #2 ate itself...., Who wants to guess my compression numbers... |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 25 2008, 08:30 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So, I got my engine running!!!!!!
A friend came over, and we played with it for a while. Discovered that the jumper cables that I was using to provide power to the starter were shitty (they would drop so much power that a new, fully charged, battery could not drive the starter to turn over the engine with the plugs in). Got new better wires, and it spins like a mad man. But my timing was off. And Ross had to go home. And I had to feed the baby. So, I walked away for it for a few hours. After dinner I had a window to play. Off to the garage I go. Reset the timing. Take out the plugs and run it or 30 seconds to build oil pressure. Put the plugs back in, turn on the power, and IT CAME TO LIFE! Accriding to the tach I wired up, the carbs idle is set too high, as it was idling at 2000 rpm. Also, with the eurorace header and the turbo muffler it was loud as hell. I called Dr.Evil, and let him hear it. Then I shut it down, as I did not want to piss off my neighbors by running it 20 minutes to break it in as they are eating dinner. I go in to find the video camera, that my wife then admits that she has lost. Brand new (got it so she could take vids and pics of the baby). My luck was starting to turn for the worse. I realize that I am starting to get mad at her, so I go back out the garage to start the engine again, as I feel that will make me happy. It starts. Sounds good. Suddenly it is all wobbly and loping, and I shut off the power with a quickness. The damn squirrel fan has come loose, and impacted the top of the engine surround. Okay. So I torque it down, and start the engine again. Loping and wobbly so I quickly turn it back off. Take off the front tin, and take of the fan. turns out that I have broken the centering pin. Sheared it off right at the hub. Lovely. until replaced, I have no way to get it centered. I pulled off the spark plugs to lower compression, and ran the starter. It purred. The pistons did not make any scraping, tapping, or clunking noises that would lead me to believe that they (or their new rings) broke somehow. At this point, my baby was screaming. I mean this in the figurative sense (my soul and my engine) and in the literal sense (my 13 day old infant.) I cleaned up and went back into the house, defeated. I do not know if I forgot to torque down the bolts to the squirrel fan, or if they came loose on their own. Either way, it has put a serious bummer to what was shaping up to be and EXCELLENT evening. Zach |
scotty b |
Apr 25 2008, 08:37 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Look at the positive side of it. The engine is running again, it isn't pissing oil all over rods shop, it doesn't have a head leaking any more, you are down to some minor issues right now. I always locktight the fan nuts and torque them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Hug the wife....hug the kid....play with the kid....play with the wife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) and go to bed happy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Oh and remember you only have one car to deal with................................for now MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 25 2008, 08:41 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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scotty b |
Apr 25 2008, 08:44 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
SWEEEET we will need pics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Wanna AMC 360 and 727 trans for it ? Might even still have a t-case
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angerosa |
Apr 25 2008, 08:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 21-August 07 From: Reston, VA Member No.: 8,023 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Zach - That sucks. Congrats on the baby. You're so close on the car. Buy the parts you need at Hershey tomorrow.
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Gint |
Apr 25 2008, 09:54 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,093 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
What do you have to be bummed about? Sounds like you're almost there.
you are down to some minor issues right now. I always locktight the fan nuts and torque them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)...on both counts. Thanks for the reminder. I'll be reinstalling my fan tomorrow afternoon. |
Root_Werks |
Apr 25 2008, 09:58 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,424 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE Oh and remember you only have one car to deal with................................for now MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! I don't know. Might be going to look at a 69 Jeep Kaiser m715 Sunday. Zach Screw the Jeep, think Unimooooooooooog. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
sww914 |
Apr 25 2008, 10:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
It just goes to show you, if it's not one thing, it's another. Tomorrow you'll feel better. It's way better than screwing up the cam timing on a 6 and hearing rockers breaking as it first fires up.
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Gint |
Apr 25 2008, 10:02 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,093 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE QUOTE Oh and remember you only have one car to deal with................................for now MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! I don't know. Might be going to look at a 69 Jeep Kaiser m715 Sunday. Zach I got a couple of shots of a really cool Commando the other night. One of these days I'll download it from my phone. Maybe I'll post it later. It might cheer you up. |
iamchappy |
Apr 25 2008, 10:04 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It just goes to show you, if it's not one thing, it's another. Tomorrow you'll feel better. It's way better than screwing up the cam timing on a 6 and hearing rockers breaking as it first fires up. Yes that would be very bad... Look at the glass 1/2 full buddy you've got it made. i agree, play with kid and wife, car later..... |
flippa |
Apr 25 2008, 10:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,178 Joined: 7-May 07 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 7,720 Region Association: North East States |
"I don't know. Might be going to look at a 69 Jeep Kaiser m715 Sunday."
They are a cool truck, but the ride is harsher than driving a tank & they don't go over 45mph. We used to tool an old one around when I was in the Gaurd. THey are fun & will crawl thru anything, but the ride.... Believe me, you would not want to drive one of these for more than an hour at a time. If you are serious, check all of the body mounts, especially the rear cab mounts & front bed mounts. |
Gint |
Apr 25 2008, 11:28 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,093 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I really liked this...
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 25 2008, 11:49 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This is what I am looking at:
(IMG:http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/eb/c3/dd55_1.JPG) Will depend on how rusty it is. I am intending to re-engine and re-gear it if I get it. |
orange914 |
Apr 25 2008, 11:56 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
do you need a pin?
mike |
SGB |
Apr 25 2008, 11:57 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
With that baby? Actually, you can. My kids used to sit in the bouncy seat in the garage many years ago. The only problem was trying to eat tools.
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scotty b |
Apr 26 2008, 07:13 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
This is what I am looking at: (IMG:http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/eb/c3/dd55_1.JPG) Will depend on how rusty it is. I am intending to re-engine and re-gear it if I get it. Like I said if you want a 360 - th400 combo I've got it here. All Jeep pieces all you MAY need is a transfer case. Dana 300 would be ideal but I think may require an outptu shaft change. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Engine is good, carb is pretty ragged but I have been driving it ocassionally. I have my old engine on the stand to re-build so this one will need to go sonner or most likely later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Oh and the T176 ( manual ) trans in my CJ will probably go too. I will most likely be putting in a 727 |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 27 2008, 01:14 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
do you need a pin? mike Thanks. I scavenged a pin out of another hub I had on hand and got everthing re-installed. I am going to go weld up and exhaust leak ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) ) and run it and see if it is still out of balance. Hopefully, everything is cool. Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 27 2008, 04:26 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Okay.
I fixed the leaky exhaust, and put the cooling fan back on. without plugs, I got no wobble when running the starter. So, I put a little oil in the cylinders, and ran the starter to build pressure, put in the plugs and started it. It ran smoothly for about 5 minutes at 2100 rpm. Then idle dropped, and I could tell there was a miss somewhere. I shut it down. I started it again, and it was running a little rough. I put a synchro on the carbs, and #2 was not drawing at all. Crap. Then I started hearing a tap from #2, and I shut it down with a quickness. I have a feeling that the carb needs a cleaning, and had jammed while I was running it in, blocking all fuel to #2. Which means I may have destroyed #2. Tomorrow I am going to get a compression tester and see - I am hopefull of a good result, but I bet I get nothing on #2. I compiared spark plugs of 1 & 2. No1 looks perfect, #2 was lean. If I did trash it.... (grumble) I have three other 96 KB pistons, and another cylinder I can have bored out. So, I am going to test compression, but I don't think I really need too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 27 2008, 05:54 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,554 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I ran out and got a compression tester, but I am not going to turn the engine over any more. I am going to just pull the 1-2 head, the #2 cylinder and check out what I have got. I have the tin off now, but don't have the heart to deal with it any more right now.
I also have a leak where the oil pump lives that i am going to need to fix, and am leaking from 3 push rod tubes. I lubed the viton rings when I installed them, but they must have cut anyhow. The 3-4 bank seems to be really tight. No leaks. the 1-2 bank just hates me, I think. Zach |
SGB |
Apr 27 2008, 07:08 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
Arrgh.
I feel your pain. My just buttoned up rebuild developed a horrible KLANGKLANGKLANG yesterday that turned out to be a valve adjuster screw backing out. I guess I don't know how to use that torque wrench after all. So don't panic yet. You did not describe expensive -breaking crashing grinding- noises, so maybe, like me, you just need a few more re-dos. I fixed my PR tube leaks, but traded one bad exhaust stud for three and aded a massive oil cooler leak. But each "re-do" exposed an error or ommision that I needed to correct, so ultimately it will be for the best. The same willl hold true for your car i think. |
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