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towing 914 on dolly without tranny in |
ldscamaross |
Sep 23 2008, 06:46 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 31-January 08 From: south jordan utah Member No.: 8,646 |
hey just had a quick question. have you guys ever toed a 914 with just a trailer dolly with the drive train gone. did you have any trouble with the rear bearings. can it be towed with the back wheels on the ground.
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Mark Henry |
Sep 23 2008, 06:50 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
It's fine as long as you don't have the axles on it.
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cobra94563 |
Sep 23 2008, 07:00 PM
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Chris Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 1-March 05 From: San Francisco Member No.: 3,696 |
I have also towed backward on a dolly (rear wheels up), as well as flat-towed w/o drivetrain.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 23 2008, 07:17 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Yes, but you MUST have the stub axles installed and tightened properly. Obviously, you can't have the driveshafts attached to the stubs .................
In fact, any time you move a 914 or 911 (or any other car with this type of wheel bearings) with the wheels on the ground, you have to have the stub axle (or a suitable substitute) in the bearing. The Cap'n |
ArtechnikA |
Sep 23 2008, 07:19 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
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JRust |
Sep 23 2008, 07:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,309 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Tow it backwords. Easiest way without screwing with your rear axles. I've towed it this way a few times without any poblem. Just make sure you lock up your steering wheel up with a strap. You've got to make sure it's locked in place somehow.
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lotus_65 |
Sep 23 2008, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
funny, i have to do the same thing this weekend.
because i have never disassembled the rears i looked at the pelican diagrams. it looks like lots of parts. it's surely as easy as ArtechnikA says, maybe someone has pics? |
Mark Henry |
Sep 23 2008, 08:03 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
It's fine as long as you don't have the axles on it. if you don't have axles on it, you'll trash the rear bearings pretty quick... Pull the halfshafts, disassemble the stub axles, put the stubs back in, torque 'em up, drive happy... Sorry I did mean the drive axle, might be a tad hard to flat tow a car without stub axles, might be a tad hard to attach your wheels to a car without stub axels But I guess answers have to be moron proof (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
ArtechnikA |
Sep 23 2008, 08:16 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
...might be a tad hard to attach your wheels to a car without stub axels It's not - tho - the hubs will stay in for a little while... ( FWIW - I knew what you meant, but I felt an expansion was appropriate due to the volume of new owners. The 'experienced guys' can gloss over a few "assumed" steps but the beginners are reading these threads literally... ) responding to the other posts... Remember the halfshafts turn at wheel speed, which is maybe 1000 rpm. You do not want to see what happens to the undercarriage when a halfshaft goes flailing around at 1000 rpm. I don't think I'd trust bungies to be a bearing. it -should- be as easy as pull the cotter pin, use an impact wrench and 30mm socket to loosen the big nut, and withdraw from the inside. Sometimes they will get stuck, especially if the PO didn't assemble them with antisieze... put the nut back on inverted (castellations in) to no more than flush with the end of the stub axle shaft, and tap only as much as needed with a brass or bronze hammer to loosen. Then you can remove the 12-point "triple-square" CV bolts with the halfshaft clamped comfortably between the soft jaws of a vise. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 23 2008, 08:30 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,309 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
If ya tow it on a dolly backwards,TIE THE REAR TRUNK DOWN!!!!, and make sure the top is latched good.
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orange914 |
Sep 23 2008, 10:23 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
I have also towed backward on a dolly (rear wheels up), as well as flat-towed w/o drivetrain. i wouldn't recomend that, at speed anyway. been there done that. it was a full size bronco but even with the stearing wheel locked down, the front gets real squirely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) |
boxstr |
Sep 23 2008, 11:33 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have towed 914s ass backwards many times, and they do get squirrley at 75+MPH, but then that is over the posted speed limit and yioui won't break the law now will you??
It will work fine, just make sutre all lids are secure and the steering wheel is locked down. CCLINTOWMEOUTTOTHEBREAK |
jd74914 |
Sep 23 2008, 11:41 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,796 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
If ya tow it on a dolly backwards,TIE THE REAR TRUNK DOWN!!!!, and make sure the top is latched good. Watch out for loose rear windows too. It would suck to have that then your windshield pop out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
ldscamaross |
Sep 24 2008, 12:30 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 31-January 08 From: south jordan utah Member No.: 8,646 |
thanks guys. i was going to get the stubs and put them in for the bearings sake but i just wanted a second opinion. thanks
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Wes V |
Sep 24 2008, 10:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: 11-October 07 From: Los angeles Member No.: 8,211 |
Yes, but you MUST have the stub axles installed and tightened properly. Obviously, you can't have the driveshafts attached to the stubs ................. In fact, any time you move a 914 or 911 (or any other car with this type of wheel bearings) with the wheels on the ground, you have to have the stub axle (or a suitable substitute) in the bearing. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) totally agree on the need! Wes |
iamchappy |
Sep 24 2008, 12:42 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Lock steering wheel up and your go to go...
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