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3.0 carrera vs 3.0sc motors, dreaming out loud |
pete-stevers |
Sep 25 2008, 07:53 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,644 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I currently have a early3.0 sc motor in the Harlot
It is pretty crazy fast.... but i want more...eventually and when the pocket book says i can....oh yes and lets not forget my dear wife's blessing so here are my thoughts.... I am able to pick up a 3.0 carerra which i would eventually rebuild to a 3.0 or 3.2 ss Or build the 3.0 sc out to a 3.4 i like the idea of a ss, while the build up of the sc less costly (due to me already owning the motor) but will need to be usable on the street opinions and thoughts are welcome |
Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 25 2008, 08:03 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Since a 3 litre Carrera motor is essentially a 1976/77 version of the SC, a prototype if you will, of the '78-'83 SC motor, why bother? Sure it makes 15 more HP (that's not even 10%), but you're not gonna keep it stock anyway. Put the money in the buildup.
The Cap'n |
SirAndy |
Sep 25 2008, 08:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I currently have a early3.0 sc motor Sell the 3.0L Motor and buy yourself a '95 3.6L Engine ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
messix |
Sep 25 2008, 08:46 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
build a bad ass 2.5!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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sixnotfour |
Sep 25 2008, 09:26 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,525 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Does it have the 6 bolt or 9 bolt flywheel ?
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Justinp71 |
Sep 25 2008, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
I understood that all 3.0 and above are 9 bolt.
I agree with keeping your existing motor, you also know the history on it. I wouldn't see why a 3.4L wouldn't be streetable. Normally the more cc's the more streetable it is, b/c you don't have to go to radical on the cam to get power. I have an '81 sc motor, carbs and DC 19 cams. And it kicks a$$. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) But the 3.6's are pretty sweet and probably cheaper to run then rebuilding a 3.0, and they get awesome gas mileage. Another note a 3.4 ss would be a better motor if you plan on keeping the 901 gearbox. Good luck! |
sixnotfour |
Sep 25 2008, 10:15 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,525 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I understood that all 3.0 and above are 9 bolt. early turbo and carrera have 6 bolt, highly desirable for really SS motor. |
dw914er |
Sep 25 2008, 10:36 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
I currently have a early3.0 sc motor Sell the 3.0L Motor and buy yourself a '95 3.6L Engine ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy I'll take the 3.0 lol seriously though, spend the money for the buildup, you'll save money and/or be able to get more power. |
pete-stevers |
Sep 25 2008, 11:23 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,644 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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iamchappy |
Sep 25 2008, 11:25 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Turbo it. Best bang for the buck and will outrun Andy's 3.6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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pete-stevers |
Sep 25 2008, 11:29 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,644 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
how bout carbs....
whatcha think andy?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
Sep 26 2008, 12:14 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE i am 95 percent sure the motor has the six bolt crank....and has mfi Stop drooling Jeff... it's embarrasing, even from afar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif) |
sww914 |
Sep 26 2008, 12:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
I like the MFI part, you can do whatever you want when you have MFI as long as you get the space cam profiled to match your displacement, compression, and cams. Sure, it costs $1200.00 but MFI makes the most crisp, quick revving, sexy sounding engines. Super light flywheel, high compression and wild cams make for a fun ride to be sure. Dual plug it and you can get it to run well on pump gas at about 9.5:1 compression. The 6 bolt crank means that if you have an early 911 flywheel making the clutch work is a no brainer. Of course, if you build what I want, you'll loose some streetability for the sake of thrills. Really good thrills.
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pete-stevers |
Sep 26 2008, 10:24 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,644 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
there is also an issue of being able to get the car through "air care" so dumping to much unburnt fuel out the pipes will be a consideration
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sixnotfour |
Sep 26 2008, 11:24 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,525 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Stop drooling Jeff... it's embarrasing, even from afar. Haha you me both have that motor in pieces , we both should get off our ifs ands buts and get em done. the motor your looking at already has this ? or its a concept ? |
SirAndy |
Sep 26 2008, 11:33 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
whatcha think andy?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) I think that a stock 3.6L with headers and modified chip will get you close to 300HP and will be magnitudes more reliable than anything you can build off your 3.0L core yourself ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Andy PS: Hey, you asked! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Root_Werks |
Sep 26 2008, 12:13 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,424 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Steve's current 3.0 is a CIS motor and should get some decent mileage as is. I would agree with Andy, you'd wind up spending less money to get a stock 3.6 in your 914 or about the same with FI 300hp. Either way it's gonna be bucks.
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pete-stevers |
Sep 26 2008, 02:56 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,644 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
three-six-schmee-six
i guesse i could throw it in the mix of possibilities.... but... but i much prefer a vintage-ish motor /carbs or mfi the big Q is to split with hard earned cash for early carerra with the possibility of a SS in the future or...build out the 3.0sc i drive the teener 5000kms a year max so milage is not a huge consideration, thats what my wabbit is for (w a 1.6 engine) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Justinp71 |
Sep 26 2008, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
He could easily add carbs and a cam and get the motor to come to life... Dougherty racing cams is the place to go.
If you get another motor there always is the risk that it may need some work, depends on what you get. Paul S. had to take his 3.6 apart a few times to get it from leaking, it might have had another problem to, not sure. And Andy had to put a new alternator in his... Either way it will rock! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
TravisNeff |
Sep 26 2008, 04:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
With that early case you can do a short stroke 2.8, the best engine porsche never built. as quoted from Sportech.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread....e+porsche+built |
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