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what tool, remove exhaust stud nuts |
machina |
Mar 21 2004, 10:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
what's the best tool to remove the nuts on the exhaust studs? I sure don't have it.
I run stub pipes which is supposed to make this easier but they are still in the way for my rachet. At the shop we had some kind of universal joint sockets that kind of worked ok. Anything else? thanks, dr Attached image(s) |
Joe Bob |
Mar 21 2004, 10:15 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I just removed the stubbies on the 2056 motor that came with Manfred...the heads were OFF the car and it was a pain in the ass....it was a 13mm socket with an extension and I had to tap it in with a hammer to get it to seat.
Obviously the headers were off first. For those a box wrench went on top and I was able to loosen in this case the allen heads from below.... |
echocanyons |
Mar 21 2004, 10:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,096 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
I used a wobble extension recently, it seemed to work with no problems
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machina |
Mar 21 2004, 10:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
I just removed the headers, which wasn't too bad. One nut was a real b***h though.
I didn't think about a wobble extension. Think I even have a couple of those, but I am not sure it will fit with these stubs. The flange is really thick on these. (triad) What are those special sockets called? dr |
d7n7master |
Mar 21 2004, 10:20 AM
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Gary# Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 13-March 03 From: The O.C, Ca. Member No.: 421 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'm having the same problem... I suppose the question is; who makes a thin wall deep socket? I want the design engineer shot & then hanged.
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rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2004, 10:26 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
sears, get the 1/4" drive(seems to be thinner walled) and use the 1/4 to 3/8 adapter. i used the 1/4 extension with the adapter further down. replace with 12mm nuts.
kevin |
majkos |
Mar 21 2004, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 29-February 04 From: Mile High 914 Member No.: 1,729 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Gee whiz Guys!First you want the max. possible exhuast,to do that you go with larger diameter tubes,taking up the space the tools use to go.I had to use open end wrench,to install! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) Now,I figured that what's the stubby were for.I also really caution on using air tools for removal,suffer the dreaded'broken stud'.I'm a thinking heat & spray WD40 or whatever prefered(Beware of gas or flame!) and gently remove the nuts.Done this a lot on most exhaust nut and bolts removal.Which I think is THE WORST ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
Just my 2 cents worth,which is not a lot theses day! |
majkos |
Mar 21 2004, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 29-February 04 From: Mile High 914 Member No.: 1,729 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks Rhodyguy! I forgot the 12mm nut trick!
Unfortunely I learned that one too late (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
machina |
Mar 21 2004, 10:48 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Mar 21 2004, 12:26 PM) sears, get the 1/4" drive(seems to be thinner walled) and use the 1/4 to 3/8 adapter. so you don't need the flex sockets? I really didn't think the 1/4" drive would reach it, but I'll try. PS, did that work with stock exhaust or stub pipes? dr |
rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2004, 11:04 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
you might need a deep well on the the 13mm. i used one on the 75' when i pulled the oe system, but i pulled everything but the stubs first. screw the wd-40 for the old studs/nuts. i used a combo of pb blaster(first, to eat at the rust) , then aero kroil, and took the rust scale off the stud with a tinny little wire wheel. i feel you need as little bulk up in that tight area as you can avoid. i think the swivel would be pretty fat, and even more so as it flex's. one of those MUST BE PATIENT proceedures. with the torque wernch set 1lb higher then the install value i ran them just a bit tighter to break the nuts loose rather than turning them off against the debris. well, that's my way. right or wrong. i didn't break any studs.
kevin |
ChrisFoley |
Mar 21 2004, 01:38 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,958 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
The ER stub pipes are big enough that the corners of a 13mm nut will touch the stub pipe, making it impossible to fit a socket onto the nut. Even 12mm nuts will be hard to tighten/loosen.
CB Performance sells even smaller nuts for 8mm exhaust studs, 11mm I think. Flanged "Kay" nuts with a 10mm hex are also available but are quite pricey. I include them with my "Modified" stubbies. |
Jeffs9146 |
Mar 21 2004, 01:45 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
These are the way to go!!
Sorry for the out of focus photo! Jeff Attached image(s) |
nebreitling |
Mar 21 2004, 01:56 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
jeff, what is that?
if the studs are completely straight, you should be able to get the 12mm socket around the nut. one of my studs isn't exactly straight, and i had to use an open wrench head-on with a thick screwdriver through the closed end (to turn it). PITA, but it worked. one-eighth turn at a time. |
Jeffs9146 |
Mar 21 2004, 02:17 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE jeff, what is that? It is an allen head exaust nut from my 6. Jeff |
Jeffs9146 |
Mar 21 2004, 02:24 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
better photo
Jeff Attached image(s) |
machina |
Mar 21 2004, 04:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Mar 21 2004, 12:26 PM) sears, get the 1/4" drive(seems to be thinner walled) and use the 1/4 to 3/8 adapter. i used the 1/4 extension with the adapter further down. replace with 12mm nuts. kevin thanks kevin, the simplest method is usually the best. the 1/4" extension and socket worked like a charm. 10 minutes for all 4 stubs, took 1.5 hours just to get the headers off. thanks again, dr |
machina |
Mar 21 2004, 06:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
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rhodyguy |
Mar 22 2004, 07:15 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,188 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
even a broken clock is correct 2 times a day. glad it worked for you.
kevin |
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