914-6 Heat Exchanger Availability, Whats the current status |
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914-6 Heat Exchanger Availability, Whats the current status |
seanery |
Jun 22 2012, 07:56 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Looking around for heat exchangers, it looks like Billy Boat is about it here in the US. Mittlemotor lists two different diameters but lists no manufacturer. It looks like GHL doesn't do Porsche stuff anymore?
*edit* added Hayward & Scott BB - $2310 pr MM - E 1469 each (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That's $1847 at today's exchange rate - each!! You will get a 19.5% discount if shipped to the US, however. H&S GBP 1400 pr - they look most like factory exchangers What else is available now? That brings up another idea. What are the odds of buying Bursch headers and fabbing HE's and ceramic coating the whole lot? Mittlemotor HEs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.mittelmotor.de-100-1340416888.1.jpg) Billy Boat HEs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.bbexhaust.com-100-1340416977.1.jpg) Bursch Headers (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pelicanparts.com-100-1340417099.1.jpg) Hayward & Scott |
mepstein |
Jun 22 2012, 08:19 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Look up Hayward and scott. Not cheap but looks nice. Many people have talked about fabbing up their own but it rarely happens.
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sixnotfour |
Jun 22 2012, 08:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,525 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
put a big alternator and go electric...thats my latest, love it.
http://dcthermal.com/brushess-cabin-heaters |
PlaysWithCars |
Jun 22 2012, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Southeast of Seattle Member No.: 1,323 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
put a big alternator and go electric...thats my latest, love it. http://dcthermal.com/brushess-cabin-heaters What size are you running Jeff? Looks like they range from 220W to 600W. Its low priority on my list of things needed to get the -6 back on the road, but I love driving on cool spring or fall days with the top off. Won't be too enjoyable w/o heat; although I am looking seriously at putting seat heaters in too. |
smj |
Jun 22 2012, 09:53 PM
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"Dude, Steve from Berkeley." Group: Members Posts: 591 Joined: 28-August 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 4,691 Region Association: Northern California |
I've got no heat in my -6, and was trying hard not to think about the cost of heat exchangers - though I'm glad they're still available. I'd been eyeing the heated seat inserts at Camp914, but an electric heater with enough umph to clear the windshield would still be a good idea... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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pete-stevers |
Jun 22 2012, 09:55 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,644 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i have heard the bb and stainless versions.... are more for the thought ..than the heat....
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smj |
Jun 22 2012, 09:59 PM
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"Dude, Steve from Berkeley." Group: Members Posts: 591 Joined: 28-August 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 4,691 Region Association: Northern California |
Look up Hayward and scott. Not cheap but looks nice. Many people have talked about fabbing up their own but it rarely happens. Hayward & Scott - 914 / 6 Performance manifold with heat exchangers €1.400 w/o tax or shipping, or about US$1,760 for the pair at today's exchange rate. So depending on shipping and tax, maybe a better price than BB. |
ClayPerrine |
Jun 23 2012, 07:04 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,820 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Use these:
Aircraft Spruce Homebuilder heat muffs. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/216.23.190.132-1143-1340456665.1.jpg) They bolt over the exhaust and turn a simple tube into a heat exchanger. |
mepstein |
Jun 23 2012, 07:35 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Use these: Aircraft Spruce Homebuilder heat muffs. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/216.23.190.132-1143-1340456665.1.jpg) They bolt over the exhaust and turn a simple tube into a heat exchanger. It would be nice if someone tested them out. I have a feeling that 9 inches of coverage won't be enough to heat the interior to the temp I want |
seanery |
Jun 23 2012, 08:07 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
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SLITS |
Jun 23 2012, 08:14 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I have a set of B&Bs. Will let you know how they work once we finish the conversion.
I have a couple of sets of mangy /6s ... they can be fixed, but they ain't pretty. $4K is a new high. Last ones I saw were $2.2K |
seanery |
Jun 23 2012, 08:16 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Ron, the thing I've read about the BB is that the fit at the muffler (driver side?) is off a bit. I'd love to hear how they fit and function for you!
I do like the look of the Hayward & Scott. |
sean_v8_914 |
Jun 23 2012, 09:57 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
what is the going price for original 914/6 heat exch that are in usable condition?
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seanery |
Jun 23 2012, 10:25 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
AA has some a left one that needs work for about $450 on ebay.
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sean_v8_914 |
Jun 23 2012, 11:00 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
they are better than that.
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sean_v8_914 |
Jun 23 2012, 11:01 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
...self lubricating
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sean_v8_914 |
Jun 23 2012, 11:03 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
afraid of extinction, he has gone into self preservation mode.
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sean_v8_914 |
Jun 23 2012, 11:05 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
the pipe bends are groovy
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Steve |
Jun 23 2012, 11:14 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,687 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
What sucks about original heat exchangers is that they measure 1 3/8" and taper to about 1 1/4 on the inside. Not optimal for a bigger motor. My 3.2 runs fine on them, but I know I am probably losing a bit of HP with them. I should be running 1 5/8"
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IronHillRestorations |
Jun 23 2012, 11:18 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,761 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
About 50% of the B&B's I've sold/bought had problems. I won't get them anymore, as it costs too much to round trip ship those things.
Heat exchangers of mild steel = future life insurance payout for your beneficiaries Every set of factory 914-6 HE's I've ever seen have that same pitting as the spendy ones on eBay. And every set of 6 HE's that have come off a running car usually needs a little repair. FWIW, the much storied carb'd 3.0 from Bruce Anderson's book, was a 914-6 with factory HE's. The factory HE's flow really well. |
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