VW/Audi/ Porsche Cargo ship blaze, Crew has been rescued / Ship + cargo loss |
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VW/Audi/ Porsche Cargo ship blaze, Crew has been rescued / Ship + cargo loss |
Maltese Falcon |
Feb 17 2022, 03:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,819 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Just checked this news out today...Cargo ship in the Atlantic looks like a huge loss of Porsche, Audi & VW's. Crew has been rescued...looks like a total loss and an Eco mess for now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Big Len |
Feb 17 2022, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,760 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The fire reportedly started in the cargo hold. Perhaps a bad Taycan battery?
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Shivers |
Feb 17 2022, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,675 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
From the smoke I'd say it is some of those clean burning VW diesels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Maltese Falcon |
Feb 17 2022, 04:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,819 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Imagine the fire risk with our 914s transatlantic shipping back in the '70s; each cars underside factory sprayed with cosmoline (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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NARP74 |
Feb 17 2022, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,175 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
As if a Porsche was not expensive enough right now!
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Ansbacher |
Feb 17 2022, 04:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 4-July 14 From: Tampa Bay, Florida Member No.: 17,589 |
Knowing Porsche, they will probably be marketing the salvageable vehicles as "Commemorative Disaster Editions".
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Root_Werks |
Feb 17 2022, 04:59 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,424 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Glad the crew got off safe, what a mess for the env.
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Van B |
Feb 17 2022, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
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wonkipop |
Feb 17 2022, 05:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,624 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
The fire reportedly started in the cargo hold. Perhaps a bad Taycan battery? 100% agree. Almost certainly a battery fire a house burned down in south australia a couple of days ago. source - tesla wall battery in garage hooked up to photo voltaic roof panels. |
914e |
Feb 17 2022, 05:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 21-February 20 From: Arizona Member No.: 23,951 Region Association: Southwest Region |
How often does a car cargo ship sink? This is the second one for Porsche in 3 three years.
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bkrantz |
Feb 17 2022, 09:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,065 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Is this one of them supply chain things?
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wonkipop |
Feb 17 2022, 10:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,624 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
How often does a car cargo ship sink? This is the second one for Porsche in 3 three years. one a few years ago was a toy ship. small specialist cargo vessel. this one, looking at the pics will be a big fugen fire, its a serious roll on roll off car ship. i see them down at the docks here when i take a spin on my favourite "race track". (you would have to have good sea legs to work on one, the top of these things is way up in the air - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) ) i've seen them sail past the our navy chopper carriers and they make the navy ships look like rubber ducky in the bath tub. |
horizontally-opposed |
Feb 17 2022, 11:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,443 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
The great news is they got the crew off the vessel, and there are (ahem) more pressing matters just now.
Still stinks for everyone involved, on both ends of that route. |
mate914 |
Feb 18 2022, 07:17 AM
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Matt Group: Members Posts: 782 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States |
Is this one of them supply chain things? Sure is….. Now for big Insurance who’s too big to fail can bail out the ship owner and Volkswagen group.. Just like The insurance groups settled for Remington. Never went to court never was questioned. The insurance companies decided the outcome of a trial. Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
mate914 |
Feb 18 2022, 08:38 AM
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Matt Group: Members Posts: 782 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States |
Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud?
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
NARP74 |
Feb 18 2022, 11:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,175 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Companies are privately chartering ships to bypass the current backlog through the normal shipping process. It might have been a direct, less than full shipment.
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lesorubcheek |
Feb 18 2022, 12:25 PM
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Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud? Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Good eye Matt. The headline stating it was full of thousands of vehicles just doesn't add up, unless they were Matchbox or Hot Wheels vehicles. Dan |
TomE |
Feb 18 2022, 01:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 17-January 20 From: Sonestown, Pennsylvania Member No.: 23,839 Region Association: None |
That could be a stock picture. Glad the crew is off. I would assume the smoke would be a lot darker.
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wonkipop |
Feb 18 2022, 01:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,624 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud? Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Good eye Matt. The headline stating it was full of thousands of vehicles just doesn't add up, unless they were Matchbox or Hot Wheels vehicles. Dan i wouldn't conclude that yet. ro ro ships ride high and use ballast to adjust for stability. in the photos i have seen she appears to be listing giving the appearance it might be riding high. they don't sail riding high because they are empty or half full ship. they use ballast to set themselves up for the load and for stability to a pre set level. if it is riding high that would point to a problem other than fire or being half empty. she is built to carry 4000 cars - vw has said close to 4000 cars on board. its hard to know if news reports are accurate. |
Jamie |
Feb 18 2022, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,057 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud? Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Good eye Matt. The headline stating it was full of thousands of vehicles just doesn't add up, unless they were Matchbox or Hot Wheels vehicles. Dan i wouldn't conclude that yet. ro ro ships ride high and use ballast to adjust for stability. in the photos i have seen she appears to be listing giving the appearance it might be riding high. they don't sail riding high because they are empty or half full ship. they use ballast to set themselves up for the load and for stability to a pre set level. if it is riding high that would point to a problem other than fire or being half empty. she is built to carry 4000 cars - vw has said close to 4000 cars on board. its hard to know if news reports are accurate. I'm curious about location? Ship might not be damaged enough to sink, then recovery becomes an even bigger problem. |
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